base talk More important for queer history - Vogue vs. Born this way vs. You need to calm down?

[Raptus]

 

Edited November 30, 2023 by Raptus

[Taylor fanboy]

Born This Way

[Jay07]

You have got to be kidding.

[Bhabylon]

What is YNTCD doing in here

[LOTF]

Be serious

[Danny789]

Vogue is the only one that applies. 

[Escape]

[PinkLamborghini]

"Vogue"

[Great808]

BTW

Vogue

Every other song by Madonna and Gaga on their albums

Every other song recorded by Madonna and Gaga before they were famous that were never finished

Large Margin

 

Every other song by any other artist

 

Another margin

 

YNTCD

[Taylor fanboy]

3 minutes ago, Bhabylon said:

What is YNTCD doing in here

The “or”. You can’t spell Loser without “or”!

[The7thStranger]

You got the order right the first time.

 

Vogue took underground gay culture to the mainstream. She bought the inventors of the style to the rest of the world and put a name to the faces of those who were suffering and dying of AIDS. There are two documentaries about that time. Nothing against anybody else, but the work that Madonna, her dancers, and Cyndi Lauper were doing in the 1980s and 1990s is untouchable, and it needs to be revered for what it is. Nothing the next generations of pop stars will touch it because the set of circumstances are simply different.

 

GaGa has done better things for the LGBT community than that song, which I feel has a very confused message by conflating being "a freak" with being queer. Her foundation and her political activism, I feel, has had much more of an effect, and I thank her for that.

 

Taylor's song feels a bit non-committal, and the messaging is also a little confused. I like that she showed up for our community, but it didn't really connect the way it should have. But I do appreciate her bringing a bunch of celebrities together in a next generation "No H8" campaign.

[sunbathinganimal]

You need to calm down clears

[Bussea]

girl.

[illia]

I see one sneak

[Ratviolo]

One of these is not like the others

[alexrex]

Even Gimme More by Britney has done more for the gays than YNTCD

[Raphy23]

Carly Rae Jepsen's Emotion album/era.

[Brikenbur]

5 minutes ago, sunbathinganimal said:

You need to calm down clears

.. my large intestine because it’s sh 

[Brikenbur]

4 minutes ago, Raphy23 said:

Carly Rae Jepsen's Emotion album/era.

Actually

[lachiqui_klk]

quoting one of the singers

 

one of these things is not like the other

[By the Water]

The one with the most streams 

[Stankonia]

 

The more important and the best one

 

Edited November 30, 2023 by Stankonia

[KatyPrismSpirit]

Born This Way of course.

[spree]

"Vogue" and it's not even close.  Born This Way was a big event, but in retrospect, it came and went pretty quickly.  Vogue, on the other hand, has transcended generations.  Isn't the new dance craze at the clubs right now literally vogueing? 

 

Taylor has done nothing for the gay community as far as I'm aware.  

[Raphy23]

1 minute ago, Brikenbur said:

Actually

It literally is the reason r/popheads exists now. Which I now use for pop culture discussion more than atrl.