celeb news Selena Gomez attends Zionist wedding party where Israel flag is celebrated

[Rob_Matteo]

"No it's not an apartheid"

 

"Ok maybe it's an apartheid but it's not an ethnostate cuz ya can't be both"

 

"Ok maybe it's both BUT what about the nearby Muslims?????"

 

Zionists online are melting right in front of our eyes 

[TheHanyo]

wow, the anti-Jewish hatred under the veil of "anti-zionism" is really scary here. never thought I'd see a second Nazi rise in my lifetime. scary!

[Rob_Matteo]

2 minutes ago, TheHanyo said:

wow, the anti-Jewish hatred under the veil of "anti-zionism" is really scary here. never thought I'd see a second Nazi rise in my lifetime. scary!

The response to "we oppose genocide and ethnic cleansing" being "this is a second Nazi rise" has got me believing we might, just might, be living in a simulation

 

[ZIVERT]

48 minutes ago, Rob_Matteo said:

we're all just antisemitic

Now you’re getting it 

[#Beautiful]

https://www.etonline.com/demi-lovato-gets-baptized-in-the-jordan-river-ive-never-felt-more-renewed-in-my-life-133561?amp

[Rob_Matteo]

3 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

Now you’re getting it 

Your inability to respond to  anything  I said for 5 posts straight, and instead all you can do is sarcastically second the notion that you will label anybody who rightfully calls out the terrorist state of Israel as antisemitic because you very simply have no argument against it...

 

The jokes write themselves at this point, we don't even have to bully or humiliate you anymore you're just shitting your pants in public at this point

 

 

[heckinglovato]

9 minutes ago, #Beautiful said:

https://www.etonline.com/demi-lovato-gets-baptized-in-the-jordan-river-ive-never-felt-more-renewed-in-my-life-133561?amp

cute try

 

On 11/27/2023 at 5:47 PM, heckinglovato said:

First of all I'm Palestinian and I've stopped listening to Demi due to her actions/words on the topic, so don't accuse me of using any of this for "stan wars" when I unequivocally denounce both of them.

 

[ZIVERT]

12 minutes ago, Rob_Matteo said:

Your inability to respond to  anything  I said for 5 posts straight, and instead all you can do is sarcastically second the notion that you will label anybody who rightfully calls out the terrorist state of Israel as antisemitic because you very simply have no argument against it...

 

The jokes write themselves at this point, we don't even have to bully or humiliate you anymore you're just shitting your pants in public at this point

 

 

Me: Why is Tunisia an ethnostate

You: But Israel!
 

Your entry level antisemitism about evil Jews is not worth a serious response. But congrats on owning me or whatever

 

 

[Aethereal]

1 hour ago, ZIVERT said:

So why is a Jewish ethnostate (in which one in every five people is a non-Jewish, indigenous Arab) inherently worse than an Arab Muslim ethnostate? Please explain 

It's apartheid system is heavily influence by location such as Gaza, West Bank and Israel proper. Arabs in Israel have equal rights to Israeli but they might face discrimination from the majority. However West Bank and Gaza are the textbook definition of apartheid. 

[heckinglovato]

2 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

Me: Why is Tunisia an ethnostate

You: But Israel!

is Tunisia 

 

1 hour ago, Rob_Matteo said:

Not entirely sure  might be the fact that it's a terrorist apartheid made up of settlers that ethnically cleansed millions of the original population and continues to ethnically cleanse them through genocide, illegal settlements, etc. and doesn't allow them back into their country while actively and demonstrably discriminating against, terrorizing, and murdering those who stayed

 

Or we're all just antisemitic, who knows honestly!

We all know you're a racist troll (from other threads too) but he allocated a portion of his time and eloquently answered your question drawing clear distinctions between the two  at least appreciate that not everybody here trivializes you completely!

[TheHanyo]

49 minutes ago, Rob_Matteo said:

The response to "we oppose genocide and ethnic cleansing" being "this is a second Nazi rise" has got me believing we might, just might, be living in a simulation

 

While supporting the side that wants to erase all Jews from the face of the earth. You're literally aligning yourself with ultra-far-right religious fanatics who believe the deaths of their women and children are a good thing because it makes them martyrs (and attracts sympathy to their cause). Why doesn't Hamas allow their women and children in the underground tunnels where all the men are protected from the bombings? They're literally sacrificing them to advance their cause of killing all Jews. And they have you propagandized to be on their side. It's mass insanity.

[Kassi]

1 hour ago, Rob_Matteo said:

Not entirely sure  might be the fact that it's a terrorist apartheid made up of settlers that ethnically cleansed millions of the original population and continues to ethnically cleanse them through genocide, illegal settlements, etc. and doesn't allow them back into their country while actively and demonstrably discriminating against, terrorizing, and murdering those who stayed

 

Or we're all just antisemitic, who knows honestly!

Unhinged post 

[Aethereal]

5 hours ago, cOe said:

I'll never be able to understand the pain you must feel due to your situation and I'm very sorry. You have definitely raised important points, but:

- Ashkenazi Jews more often than not took Polish/German surnames which does not necessarily reflect on their ethnic origin. Again, there was very little intermixing with the Eastern European population. In all the materials I've seen of Jews during the Holocaust they were a visible minority, and Holocaust was a racially motivated event.

- Even Netanyahu (who is a POS) would not pass as Polish in his youth, and his mother was born near Tel Aviv in 1912.

I just think the discussion is a bit more nuanced than White Europeans against Middle Eastern people here. I support criticism of Israel's actions but the rhetoric online where people often equate Jews to Poles or Germans "with special snowflake syndrome" just doesn't make sense.

I do think Israel is a toxic state and that a ceasefire should occur so that major changes could be made finally

Ashkenazi Jews are half Middle Eastern and half European. Most of their European ancestry come from Mediterranean Europe though around the late antiquity not so much from Eastern Europe. 

 

It is ironic that most of the Ashkenazi Jews' historical maternal ancestry is non-Hebrew (European) and Israeli law only considers Jews with Jewish mother as proper migrants.

 

[Rob_Matteo]

17 minutes ago, TheHanyo said:

While supporting the side that wants to erase all Jews from the face of the earth. You're literally aligning yourself with ultra-far-right religious fanatics who believe the deaths of their women and children are a good thing because it makes them martyrs (and attracts sympathy to their cause). Why doesn't Hamas allow their women and children in the underground tunnels where all the men are protected from the bombings? They're literally sacrificing them to advance their cause of killing all Jews. And they have you propagandized to be on their side. It's mass insanity.

Calling me pro-Hamas for denouncing the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians just shows you’re one of those rabid racists who think “Palestinians = terrorists and anyone who supports their freedom automatically supports Hummus and should be fired from their job effective immediately ”

[TheHanyo]

2 minutes ago, Rob_Matteo said:

Calling me pro-Hamas for denouncing the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians just shows you’re one of those rabid racists who think “Palestinians = terrorists and anyone who supports their freedom automatically supports Hummus and should be fired from their job effective immediately ”

Israel is attacking Hamas, not Palestinians. If Hamas is putting Gazan women and children in harm's way in an effort to boost international sympathy, that's not Israel's fault. Again, I ask you: why won't the men of Gaza allow women and children to shelter in the 500km of underground tunnels where all the men are sheltering?

[Rob_Matteo]

Just now, TheHanyo said:

Israel is attacking Hamas, not Palestinians.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[TheHanyo]

7 minutes ago, Rob_Matteo said:

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The West Bank isn't being invaded by Israel. If they were trying to ethnically cleanse Palestinians, they'd be doing it in Gaza, Israel and the West Bank, but they're only doing it in Gaza where Hamas is in charge.

Edited November 28, 2023 by TheHanyo

[heckinglovato]

Come on guys  Israel is only attacking Hamas not Palestinians  that's why it hasn't dropped a single bomb on people in the West Bank but only killed them in other creative ways  and took them as hostages and kicked them out of their homes and lands to implement illegal settlements that have been voted against by almost every country in the world  why are you all like this 

[State of Grace.]

Israel:

kills 20k Palestinians (+8k children)

displaces +1,7M (more than 80% of the population)

+120 health facilities targeted 

+400 health staff targeted

+60 journalists killed

 

Zionists:

46 minutes ago, TheHanyo said:

Israel is attacking Hamas, not Palestinians. 

 

The jokes are writing themselves. Yall are not even worth the effort.

Edited November 28, 2023 by State of Grace.

[Kassi]

^Hamas should consider those consequences before attacking a nuclear power 

[Bloo]

2 minutes ago, Kassi said:

^Hamas should consider those consequences before attacking a nuclear power 

Israel could also just not murder civilians. 
 

This lazy response would have an ounce of credit if Israel wasn’t killing Palestinians before the recent Hamas attack. 

[theflying]

8 minutes ago, Bloo said:

Israel could also just not murder civilians. 
 

This lazy response would have an ounce of credit if Israel wasn’t killing Palestinians before the recent Hamas attack. 

No, sorry, it does not work like that. You know who could also not murder civilians? Hamas. You’re telling the Jewish state that people are allowed to slaughter 1200 people, and they can’t retaliate because they’ll “not murder civilians”.

 

Every nation in the world would retaliate. That’s why almost any western leader emphasizes that Israel does have a right to defend itself, they try and get Israel to minimize casualties where it can. It’s a hard job when Hamas embeds itself in its civilian population, and doesn’t build them any shelters, launches rockets at Israel, and yet relies on Israel for its power because it’s rather funnel away the foreign money aid it gets than use it to develop Gaza.

 

Hamas can no longer govern Gaza. They have to go.

[theflying]

Furthermore, the fact that a moderator decided to not only keep this topic open, but *chime in* and essentially endorse the topic being open, is disgusting. 
 

Like, you want to talk lazy response? How about you address this entire bigoted topic of acting like someone attending a Jewish wedding means they’re “endorsing genocide”.

 

There is NO need for this topic. If people want to come to ATRL to talk about the Israel-Palestine conflict, it does not need to happen in an inherently bigoted topic like this.

 

I am *so* tired of the bigotry and casual anti-Semitism being allowed to flourish here. 

Edited November 28, 2023 by theflying

[ZIVERT]

13 minutes ago, Bloo said:

Israel could also just not murder civilians. 
 

This lazy response would have an ounce of credit if Israel wasn’t killing Palestinians before the recent Hamas attack. 

Speaking of lazy responses 

[theflying]

Not a literal single aspect of this thread would stand if it was about ANY other minority group.