celeb news Report: Taylor wanted to postpone today's show earlier, the promoter refused

[Tistotal]

Swifties are working harder than korean fan girls 

[Rep2000]

11 minutes ago, Tistotal said:

Swifties are working harder than korean fan girls 

And what is there to "" about, honestly? 

[Rep2000]

2 hours ago, awesomepossum said:

Contracts don't control your mind and body. You can violate the terms of your contract. You just have to either fulfill the financial commitments, or pay whatever penalty is spelled out in the contract. Ultimately, it's only about the money. She could have postponed earlier and just took the L for the lost money. I mean, she is a billionaire. And that's just her personal wealth, not the many more millions/billions amassed in her company. Maybe sell one of her multiple private jets to cover the cost? Like, get real. It's her concert, her name, her money. She could have and should have postponed earlier.

Imagine saying this out loud without being embarassing for your obtuseness. Not every problems in the world can be solved by throwing money at it.

[Headlock]

16 minutes ago, Tistotal said:

Swifties are working harder than korean fan girls 

You turning this into stan war nonsense is revolting.

[awesomepossum]

15 minutes ago, Rep2000 said:

Imagine saying this out loud without being embarassing for your obtuseness. Not every problems in the world can be solved by throwing money at it.

What do you think happens if you violate a contract you have signed?

[Rep2000]

Just now, awesomepossum said:

What do you think happens if you violate a contract you have signed?

That's a question for you to figure out, dear. Since it's apparent that you have never found out yourself.

[Trainwreck]

34 minutes ago, Tistotal said:

Swifties are working harder than korean fan girls 

A person just died and hundreds more were hospitalized due to extreme weather and you're trying to downplay everything to a useless, dumb stan war fight. My God you truly are pathetic. 

[Sannie]

54 minutes ago, Mr. Mendes said:

No, she cannot just do that. 

 

It isn't about a financial penalty for her, it's about:

 

1. Her entire staff losing a day of pay due to no show + the venue staff also losing a day of pay due to no show
2. Her entire staff instead being made to work on a day that was scheduled to be off time 
3. Her and her entire staff now performing on what was scheduled to be a travel day
4. The venue staff now having to come and work on a day they were not supposed to
5. Whether or not the venue even has people available to be there on a new day
6. Reorganizing the travel of her and all her people to the next city on a day they weren't meant to travel (remember that truck drivers especially have strict travel and no travel hours they are legally requited to adhere to)
7. Communicating with the venue to make sure it can be booked again on an unplanned day
8. Communicating with local authorities to make sure they'll have the numbers and resources to be present at the concert on a day that it wasn't planned
9. Communicating with the team already in the next city about how they'll now need to approach construction due to a delay in delivery
10. Whether or not hotels and airlines are going to work with the over 100,000 ticket holders and if they aren't, how many people are going to get stranded in Rio

 

It isn't just a spur of the moment decision. An artist cannot simply get on Twitter and say "no show" and call it a day. That would turn an already confusing and chaotic situation into something endlessly more unmanageable. You have to have a plan in place. You have to have answers for all of the above questions, or you cannot make any moves. And unfortunately, not every party has the same interests here. What Taylor and her team wants doesn't necessarily align with what the promoter wants. We love to think of her as some immortal who can stand above anyone and boss anyone around, but if she doesn't have the support of the promoter on a delay, then several of hose critical pieces above become impossible to manage. 

She can, though. And popstars of lesser caliber have done it before. do you guys actually think Taylor does not have the power to postpone a show of her own tour? That she is beholden to the powers of the promoter? Someone like Taylor has 100% of the power and can make decisions whenever she wants to. If she feels it is dangerous and she needs to postpone a show, that is 100% justified and insurance will cover the losses. This rumor is just a way to defend Taylor after what happened. 

Edited November 19, 2023 by Sannie

[awesomepossum]

46 minutes ago, Mr. Mendes said:

No, she cannot just do that. 

 

It isn't about a financial penalty for her, it's about:

 

1. Her entire staff losing a day of pay due to no show + the venue staff also losing a day of pay due to no show
2. Her entire staff instead being made to work on a day that was scheduled to be off time 
3. Her and her entire staff now performing on what was scheduled to be a travel day
4. The venue staff now having to come and work on a day they were not supposed to
5. Whether or not the venue even has people available to be there on a new day
6. Reorganizing the travel of her and all her people to the next city on a day they weren't meant to travel (remember that truck drivers especially have strict travel and no travel hours they are legally requited to adhere to)
7. Communicating with the venue to make sure it can be booked again on an unplanned day
8. Communicating with local authorities to make sure they'll have the numbers and resources to be present at the concert on a day that it wasn't planned
9. Communicating with the team already in the next city about how they'll now need to approach construction due to a delay in delivery
10. Whether or not hotels and airlines are going to work with the over 100,000 ticket holders and if they aren't, how many people are going to get stranded in Rio

 

It isn't just a spur of the moment decision. An artist cannot simply get on Twitter and say "no show" and call it a day. That would turn an already confusing and chaotic situation into something endlessly more unmanageable. You have to have a plan in place. You have to have answers for all of the above questions, or you cannot make any moves. And unfortunately, not every party has the same interests here. What Taylor and her team wants doesn't necessarily align with what the promoter wants. We love to think of her as some immortal who can stand above anyone and boss anyone around, but if she doesn't have the support of the promoter on a delay, then several of hose critical pieces above become impossible to manage. 

1. She can pay her staff for the lost day

2. How so? She can cancel outright or reschedule them for another day. As long as she gives them enough notice, she is allowed to do that as an employer.

3. Same as above. Doesn't matter. That can easily be figured out after the fact. How do you think she keeps adding dates? She is allowed to modify scheduling as an employer.

4. Same as above. Their employer can schedule them according to their employment laws. This doesn't need to be figured out in advance of the postponement. LOL

5. Irrelevant for same reasons as above.

6. Irrelevant for same reasons as above.

7. The venue can be booked again in the future. Are you under the impression that the venue is going to cease operations after her currently scheduled show? LOL

8. Irrelevant for same reasons as above.

9. Irrelevant for same reasons as above.

10. Are the airlines working with ticket holders? Has that been communicated? It's not really her problem if the show has to be rescheduled because SOMEONE DIED and some people end up missing the show because they can't make the new date. That will be the case with or without the airline's cooperation.

 

All these details can be figured out after the fact. It doesn't have to be 'spur of the moment.' This whole post is ridiculous. All the details you're talking about can be figured out after the announcement is made. You're acting like this is the first time anyone has ever postponed a show. It isn't. She - or her team, or whoever - did not have to wait until thousands of people were already in the venue to postpone.

[awesomepossum]

2 hours ago, BtDecember said:

 

Yes she is a hungy money selfish fraud basic white mediocre soulless can't sing can't dance talentless ugly stupid immoral z-listed loser diabolical worst than satan btch snake artist! Are you done? What else do you wanna say? GO ON WE SWIFTIE AGREE TO YOU WE BOW OUR HEADS TO YOUR HIGH LEVEL OF INTELIGENCE YES PLS YOU ARE RIGHT NOW WE ARE SORRY.

 

Happy now?

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[rihsus]

This has already been denied. They both agreed to wait and see how thing would go during the day and made the decision at the last minute.

Edited November 19, 2023 by rihsus

[Peak Now]

OTHs trying to make a stan war out of this has to be a new low I fear... it's obvious to me that her team tried to make the suitable arrangements for a safe concert environment till the last possible moment and didn't succeed

[Trainwreck]

3 minutes ago, rihsus said:

This has already been denied. They both agreed to wait and see how thing would go during the day and made the decision at the last minute.

Can you please link us to the article? So we can add further information to the tour thread

[awesomepossum]

11 minutes ago, Rep2000 said:

That's a question for you to figure out, dear. Since it's apparent that you have never found out yourself.

Well, according to you, it's not possible to violate a contract. So I guess no one has ever found out, because no one has ever violated a contract, right? Because that's not possible to do. According to you.

[Sannie]

3 hours ago, Taylor fanboy said:

You know this is not true. There are laws and permits, amongst many other contractual obligations, escalation processes, and commercial decisions.

You guys keep bringing up contracts and contractual obligations as if Taylor is not the biggest celebrity in the world with the best lawyers. Her contracts would cover events like this and would allow her to make last-minute decisions if she needed or wanted to. No stone is left unturned when it comes to Taylor Swift and her business decisions. If Taylor and her team actually thought it was dangerous to put on the show, that kind of scenario would be in her contract and she would have the power to pull the plug. This very thing happened mid-show at Gaga’s last Chrome Ball concert where she cancelled after it began to storm. It was last-minute and done for the safety of people in the audience. And what do you know… she was not sued or banned from the promoter because these kinds of things are covered. If anything, Taylor could sue the promoter if they “forced” her to perform because having a fan die is traumatic ****. 
 

Fans are just making stuff up to defend her. And tbh, I am not even sure what she needs to be defended for. None of this is her fault. I have seen pictures of the crowd and the venue letting so many people onto the floor packed right when it was that hot is the venue’s fault. 

[rihsus]

2 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

Can you please link us to the article? So we can add further information to the tour thread

 

[taylorrrr]

Gosh there should be an IQ test before registrations because certain users are giving negative IQs. It is a stadium show, involving a **** ton of equipment and manpower to set up. It is not just a 'throw some money and do it another day' situation like what's so difficult to comprehend. There are more logistics involved than some of your pea brains can comprehend. 

[Rep2000]

19 minutes ago, awesomepossum said:

Well, according to you, it's not possible to violate a contract. So I guess no one has ever found out, because no one has ever violated a contract, right? Because that's not possible to do. According to you.

Imagine being this argumentative about such trivial stan war, in which you have no reasonable or substantial points beside "she can just throw money at it to solve it!!!".

Honestly, according to me, you have never worked a day in your life to be this clueless about contracts, responsibilities and even rationality to play this pathetic gotcha game.

[supaspaz]

4 hours ago, getBusy said:

Would Twitter user @faelklore lie? 

The Swifties will really believe anything.

[jqnetto]

55 minutes ago, rihsus said:

 

Flesch’s tweet being a literal answer to this captious thread. Mods can close it already.

[Raphy23]

1 hour ago, Tistotal said:

Swifties are working harder than korean fan girls 

It’s literally just logic. 

[BtDecember]

1 hour ago, awesomepossum said:

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What? Not enough? You wanna add more? 

[qurl]

so she’s the most powerful woman on the planet until a random brazilian promoter dictates when she performs ?

[BryceG]

5 hours ago, supaspaz said:

The Swifties will really believe anything.

My downvotes confirm this.

[BryceG]

6 hours ago, Mr. Mendes said:

That isn't how it works 

When you’re Taylor Swift, yes it is.
 

Anyway, the OP was misinformation you and many others fell for.