ImpressMeMuch Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Minogue said: Israelis holding an Israeli flag in an Israeli movie theatre got y’all triggered now huh Yes I love bringing my American flag to the movie theater and dancing with it very normal behaviour! 2 12
Welovetrouble Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 It's normal to enjoy music or movies but the way some people have made certain celebrities their entire personality that they take it as a personal affront when said celebrity is critiqued is wild, please do some introspection or if you can afford therapy speak to a professional. 1 2
Minogue Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, ImpressMeMuch said: Yes I love bringing my American flag to the movie theater and dancing with it very normal behaviour! First of all y’all Americans are putting your flag everywhere so that’s a terrible example. second, all she did was sing break my soul with a flag 50 days after the greatest massacre of Jews since the holocaust which it’s highly likely statistically that she knows someone effected therefore she probably feels connected to the song in that way. No that hard to understand really. if you find a problem with that flag it means you have a problem with a Jewish state. Now if that’s the case that a whole another conversation. 2 7
Minogue Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Stankonia said: Not the person making this tweet calling himself a Jihadist and wearing a Hamas headband. y’all align yourself with the worst people and for what exactly? https://www.instagram.com/p/C0XJMEhsBuS/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== 4 2
CroNich Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Minogue said: First of all y’all Americans are putting your flag everywhere so that’s a terrible example. second, all she did was sing break my soul with a flag 50 days after the greatest massacre of Jews since the holocaust which it’s highly likely statistically that she knows someone effected therefore she probably feels connected to the song in that way. No that hard to understand really. if you find a problem with that flag it means you have a problem with a Jewish state. Now if that’s the case that a whole another conversation. ‘It means you have a problem with a Jewish State.’ Girl stfu you know damn well Israel is a lot more than a Jewish state, and the Israeli flag especially at the moment is a representation of the actions of the Israeli government and IDF. Stop referring to people who are triggered by Israel and Israeli symbolism as anti-Jewish, because we’re not. We’re anti-Zionist, anti-genocide, anti-ethnic cleansing, anti-murder of thousands of innocent children, anti-murder of thousands of innocent women, anti-murder of thousands of innocent men, anti-the displacement of millions and millions of Palestinians, anti-the violence and terror being committed against Palestinians in the West Bank. take your stupid flag and shove it up your ass miss Minogue (Kylie would be disgusted in you btw). 5 4
Mr.X Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Just in case there is any doubt, the BDS movement has shown they are against both Beyoncé and Taylor Swift showing their films in Israel: Palestinians are grateful that both Beyoncé and Taylor Swift have never performed in apartheid Tel Aviv despite many lucrative offers. We are however deeply troubled that their films have screened in Israel while its military is committing what 36 UN experts, as well as Israeli, Palestinian and international legal experts, including genocide scholars, agree is a "genocide in the making." This only gives a cultural cover for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Even if artists do not have the power to cancel complicit screenings, they should at least publicly demand it to distance themselves from Israel's genocide and apartheid against Palestinians. https://www.instagram.com/p/C0Z_7NLr2Ek It is quite disguting that neither of them have said a single word about this at all to be honest! Not that we would expect it, since both are filthy capitalists that only see dollar signs in front of them, but damn... 7 1
ImpressMeMuch Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Minogue said: First of all y’all Americans are putting your flag everywhere so that’s a terrible example. second, all she did was sing break my soul with a flag 50 days after the greatest massacre of Jews since the holocaust which it’s highly likely statistically that she knows someone effected therefore she probably feels connected to the song in that way. No that hard to understand really. if you find a problem with that flag it means you have a problem with a Jewish state. Now if that’s the case that a whole another conversation. Sweetheart you are reaching and striking back in bad faith. I’m not doing this with you. 1
Sannie Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 The videos coming out of Israel is a PR nightmare. But as someone has mentioned on Twitter, Bey and Tay's PR teams have no idea how to properly handle this because they lose no matter what they say. You cannot "both sides" a genocide so they do not know what to say. I will say, though, it is very sad to see someone like Beyonce's music being used as a genocide anthem for these people. 2
Mr.X Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Sannie said: The videos coming out of Israel is a PR nightmare. But as someone has mentioned on Twitter, Bey and Tay's PR teams have no idea how to properly handle this because they lose no matter what they say. You cannot "both sides" a genocide so they do not know what to say. I will say, though, it is very sad to see someone like Beyonce's music being used as a genocide anthem for these people. She could simply put out a #CeaseFireNow post without anything else and it wouldn't do much damage, as it is simply calling for peace and end of the genocide, it is not against Israel itself. The lack of ANY move whatsoever speaks more loudly about where her and Taylor's morals are: in the gutter.
Kassi Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr.X said: She could simply put out a #CeaseFireNow post without anything else and it wouldn't do much damage, as it is simply calling for peace and end of the genocide, it is not against Israel itself. The lack of ANY move whatsoever speaks more loudly about where her and Taylor's morals are: in the gutter. No. It has nothing to do with them. Are you also upset she didn’t say anything about Ukraine, Yemen, Pakistan, Congo, and Syria? Be for real. 1 1
Mr.X Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 42 minutes ago, Kassi said: No. It has nothing to do with them. Are you also upset she didn’t say anything about Ukraine, Yemen, Pakistan, Congo, and Syria? Be for real. Yes I am, but perhaps Palestine more as this is a directly-USA funded genocide and apartheid system and Israel is USA and EU's fascist baby. So yes, she should said something at the very least. Not the least because her song is being used as a statement by genocidal maniacs. Many other artists have voiced their dissaproval when fascists use their songs, it's the fucknig least they can do and there's no excuses here. I love Beyonce's work and I went to see the movie. Her silence makes me regret it now.
Kassi Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mr.X said: Yes I am, but perhaps Palestine more as this is a directly-USA funded genocide and apartheid system and Israel is USA and EU's fascist baby. So yes, she should said something at the very least. Not the least because her song is being used as a statement by genocidal maniacs. Many other artists have voiced their dissaproval when fascists use their songs, it's the fucknig least they can do and there's no excuses here. I love Beyonce's work and I went to see the movie. Her silence makes me regret it now. “The only way I can enjoy musical artists is when they’re engaged in foreign policy” is certainly a take. If that’s the case then there’s nothing anyone can do to help you. You might just want to stop listening/watching US and European artists who aren’t also activists. 1 1 1
Mr.X Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Kassi said: “The only way I can enjoy musical artists is when they’re engaged in foreign policy” is certainly a take. If that’s the case then there’s nothing anyone can do to help you. You might just want to stop listening/watching US and European artists who aren’t also activists. Thats not what I did you genocide supporter, but what's new with genocide-loving maniacs? You lot can only twist words to try and belitle anyone who thinks diferently. It's like gaslighting but too stupid to take personally lol I said I regret spending money on an artist who is showing blatant disregard for human life. Most of my other artists-interests have at least shown some form of support for the ceasefire, like Lorde, Bjork, Dua Lipa, etc. The Beyonces and Taylors can ******* rot if they would rather have their art appropriated by genocidal maniacs than saying anything at all. Edited December 4, 2023 by Mr.X
rihannafan Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 48 minutes ago, Mr.X said: Yes I am, but perhaps Palestine more as this is a directly-USA funded genocide and apartheid system and Israel is USA and EU's fascist baby. So yes, she should said something at the very least. Not the least because her song is being used as a statement by genocidal maniacs. Many other artists have voiced their dissaproval when fascists use their songs, it's the fucknig least they can do and there's no excuses here. I love Beyonce's work and I went to see the movie. Her silence makes me regret it now. Don't bother with that person 2
Kassi Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 42 minutes ago, Mr.X said: Thats not what I did you genocide supporter, but what's new with genocide-loving maniacs? You lot can only twist words to try and belitle anyone who thinks diferently. It's like gaslighting but too stupid to take personally lol I said I regret spending money on an artist who is showing blatant disregard for human life. Most of my other artists-interests have at least shown some form of support for the ceasefire, like Lorde, Bjork, Dua Lipa, etc. The Beyonces and Taylors can ******* rot if they would rather have their art appropriated by genocidal maniacs than saying anything at all. I gave you 5 other examples of foreign policy issues that she didn't speak out about. Ukraine being the biggest issue for about 1.5 years before Israel-Hamas war started. You said you were upset she didn't speak on any of them. It's simple, you want pop girls to become foreign policy activists. I'm saying that's unrealistic. 1 1
Mr.X Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, rihannafan said: Don't bother with that person Thanks, I most definitely wont bother with this fascist pig (as per their own avatar)
Kassi Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr.X said: Thanks, I most definitely wont bother with this fascist pig (as per their own avatar) And Beyoncé won’t bother with your pet issue. Everybody wins. 1 2
Fleahive Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 "Celebrities need to stop attempting to be activists and just shut up" "Why isn't this washed up singer stopping a war that has gone on for decades? How dare innocent civilians that aren't killing anyone be allowed to watch her movie in their home country shes a disgusting capitalist and I won't support her anymore" - posted on twitter owned by Elon Musk
Dreajae Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 On 12/3/2023 at 5:23 PM, Mr.X said: Just in case there is any doubt, the BDS movement has shown they are against both Beyoncé and Taylor Swift showing their films in Israel: Palestinians are grateful that both Beyoncé and Taylor Swift have never performed in apartheid Tel Aviv despite many lucrative offers. We are however deeply troubled that their films have screened in Israel while its military is committing what 36 UN experts, as well as Israeli, Palestinian and international legal experts, including genocide scholars, agree is a "genocide in the making." This only gives a cultural cover for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Even if artists do not have the power to cancel complicit screenings, they should at least publicly demand it to distance themselves from Israel's genocide and apartheid against Palestinians. https://www.instagram.com/p/C0Z_7NLr2Ek It is quite disguting that neither of them have said a single word about this at all to be honest! Not that we would expect it, since both are filthy capitalists that only see dollar signs in front of them, but damn... This is b.s. Show me their statement when Taylor released her film 2 months ago. So now they make a statement the week of Beyonce's launch? They know damn well calling out Taylor by herself would be backlash and need Beys image to be the face of Zionism. A BLACK woman with roots in Texas, Louisiana and Alabama. Jim Crow codified. It's so disingenious how shitty people are and try to railroad Beyonce for any success she has. She is not a puppet put on this damn earth to fight everyone's cause. And this is someone who has been in support of Palenstine. Keep the energy for the leaders who are funding the genocide and all the multi billion dollar corps who could stand against Russia, but not Israel.
Mr.X Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Dreajae said: This is b.s. Show me their statement when Taylor released her film 2 months ago. So now they make a statement the week of Beyonce's launch? They know damn well calling out Taylor by herself would be backlash and need Beys image to be the face of Zionism. A BLACK woman with roots in Texas, Louisiana and Alabama. Jim Crow codified. It's so disingenious how shitty people are and try to railroad Beyonce for any success she has. She is not a puppet put on this damn earth to fight everyone's cause. And this is someone who has been in support of Palenstine. Keep the energy for the leaders who are funding the genocide and all the multi billion dollar corps who could stand against Russia, but not Israel. You are doing too much to defend an actual billionaire. Both Beyonce AND Taylor are being attacked and we should definitely, DEFINILTY call them out on their bullshit. Both of them. The focus on both of them has started recently - and they are both dragged. Miss me with this performative crap. Identity politics will only hit you so far, and both Beyonce and Taylor (and many other celebs) use it for their own personal gain, but when it comes to putting your activism on the ACTUAL line - not just when it also benefits you - they hide like there's no tomorrow. There's actual artists and celebrities, as well as millions of people with much less power/money/influence putting their jobs and lives on the line across the world to call and actively trying to stop this genocide, most of them who are also minorities. Neither Beyonce or Taylor or any other celebrity should get away with it because it coud 'damage their careers' or whatever the shite. There actual genocide-militants in Israel are using Beyonce's MUSIC that she herself has framed within activist politics, as their 'anthem'. It's viral as **** and it's well known. Yet beyonce is letting it all happen too. Like, it is directly touching her and her art. When MAGA-fascists were using Taylor as their 'hero' or whatever a few years ago, people called her out for being silent and she had to be dragged into somehow addressing it years later. Same when there were rumours she had been in talks for a performance in Israel. This isn't new and it is even addressed in the posted BDS link above, but you CHOSE to skip that in favour of protecting your idol. Look across the internet and you will see that it is not just Beyonce. But also, BEYONCE is known as 'the standard' and as of Lemonade, also 'an activist using her art to uplift people'. And now her 'music to uplift people' or whatever, is being used to celebrate GENOCIDE. She set the standard, and now you are all complaining when people are holding her to that standard?
Shelter Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/3/2023 at 7:35 PM, ImpressMeMuch said: Yes I love bringing my American flag to the movie theater and dancing with it very normal behaviour! US prob prefer guns 8 hours ago, Mr.X said: Thats not what I did you genocide supporter, but what's new with genocide-loving maniacs? You lot can only twist words to try and belitle anyone who thinks diferently. It's like gaslighting but too stupid to take personally lol I said I regret spending money on an artist who is showing blatant disregard for human life. Most of my other artists-interests have at least shown some form of support for the ceasefire, like Lorde, Bjork, Dua Lipa, etc. The Beyonces and Taylors can ******* rot if they would rather have their art appropriated by genocidal maniacs than saying anything at all. Did it help? I still see Israel bombing Gaza. These celeb statements and boycotts mean nothing to Israel. The US literally fund Israel yet no one has a problem with movies being shown there. Why is that? Where is the outrage for Leo Dicaprio, Timothee Chalamet, Justin Timberlake etc their movies are being shown there, no one cares. It’s just selective outrage as usual kept for women. Are you boycotting all those actors and directors/producers going forward? Also doesn’t Dua work with Puma who sponsors football in Israel but keep supporting her because she made some statement. Bravo
Lovett Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 I'm certainly not going to weigh into the politics of all this, but I find it incredibly strange that Beyoncé has been made the face of this when the entire film industry is still distributing films in Israel, on a much larger scale.
Aethereal Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 23 hours ago, Lovett said: I'm certainly not going to weigh into the politics of all this, but I find it incredibly strange that Beyoncé has been made the face of this when the entire film industry is still distributing films in Israel, on a much larger scale. Read Lana's instagram comments.
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