AMIT Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, Airlie said: Yaaas let’s instead stay home and give Trump or Desantis 4 years like with Trump v. Hillary y’all are truly birdbrained Give it up, that's not gonna work. No one should feel guilty over not reinforcing this clown show by means of a vote. How about you deal with the fact that y'all are pressed your genocidal corpse of a ''representative'' is tanking astronomically because of his own doing and that you got clowned by him in the past into voting for him? 6
SuperCiC1 Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, 2NE1 said: Because we’re not supporting a party that doesn’t care </3 Thinking in black and white is not critical only one party wants to ban all immigration, especially Muslims, and make Christianity the state religion. 2 2
Airlie Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, AMIT said: Give it up, that's not gonna work. No one should feel guilty over not reinforcing this clown show by means of a vote. How about you deal with the fact that y'all are pressed your genocidal corpse of a ''representative'' is tanking astronomically because of his own doing and that you got clowned by him in the past into voting for him? Girl, what’s definitely NOT gonna work is staying home like a pressed toddler with your arms crossed saying “I hate them both so I’m not gonna vote for anyone! That’ll really show them!” and then getting stuck with a Republican dictator who will make it his mission to ruin millions of people’s lives over the next four years. You would’ve thought y’all learned your lesson after 2016 but I guess really not 8 4
SuperCiC1 Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 Republicans know they are losing votes as a general trend so their next best bet is that voters will stay home. I don't know why someone would give the election to Republicans and think they're changing anything, but maybe Republican propaganda is simply working on them. 4 3
AMIT Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Airlie said: Girl, what’s definitely NOT gonna work is staying home like a pressed toddler with your arms crossed saying “I hate them both so I’m not gonna vote for anyone! That’ll really show them!” and then getting stuck with a Republican dictator who will make it his mission to ruin millions of people’s lives over the next four years. You would’ve thought y’all learned your lesson after 2016 but I guess really not I'm sorry, did Biden personally ask you for permission on whether he could green-light the genocide of thousands of Palestinians? And if not then do you agree with his decision? Because that's what your vote says to him. And now you are going to double-down on that and are also trying shame people into doing the same thing. Do you realize how insane you sound? Both parties are basically the same and that is especially true when it comes to foreign policy. This ''freedom! democracy! civility!" illusion trick is not gonna work on me. If you want to endorse genocide by voting for him (*again*), then you have every right to, but I will call out people such as you trying to make others feel bad because they don't want to take precious time of their lives to vote for a genocidal freak. Edited November 8, 2023 by AMIT 6 1
Thor Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Space Cowboy said: I mean the alternative for Biden is a racist who wants most arabs deported and wouldn’t oppose for indiscriminate bombing of palestinans. Biden is still the lesser of two evils. 3 hours ago, SuperCiC1 said: Because they lack critical thinking skills??? Are Black and Brown bodies disposable to you? 6 1
Communion Posted November 8, 2023 Author Posted November 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, SuperCiC1 said: so their next best bet is that voters will stay home. Shame that Biden loves Israel more than winning than, no?
Sweet Sexy Savage Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 46 minutes ago, SuperCiC1 said: Republicans know they are losing votes as a general trend so their next best bet is that voters will stay home. I don't know why someone would give the election to Republicans and think they're changing anything, but maybe Republican propaganda is simply working on them. There’s always voting independent, but yet you’re going to call me and many others stupid for giving the win to the Republicans. Isn’t that telling of how shitty the Democratic party is? That they have to rely on Gen Z voters like me, who are hyperaware of the atrocities committed by both parties, to show out for the democratic primary? 6
BrokenMachine Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Space Cowboy said: I mean the alternative for Biden is a racist who wants most arabs deported and wouldn’t oppose for indiscriminate bombing of palestinans. Biden is still the lesser of two evils. I can't believe how in the so-called 'land of freedom' their citizens can only choose between two evils 2
BrokenMachine Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 3 hours ago, SuperCiC1 said: Do we all understand that accepting that there are only two possible options and discerning the better of the two (or lesser of two evils) is exactly what critical thinking is??? No, I don't understand that. How in the world being held to just two devils equals 'critical thinking'? Critical thinking means thinking outside of that closed sphere of 'we have no other choice' and trying to find better solutions because if you don't... well, you're doomed to the same cycle over and over again 6
ATRL Moderator Oxygen Posted November 8, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted November 8, 2023 This guy sounds like an idiot
Newt Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 Im honestly sick of people playing games with our political system. Votes are given to those with views that align with our own. If democrats fail to secure their base, then they dont earn the right to steer the ship. If the country falls deeper into hell, it is entirely on our leaders for failing at their JOB, not voters who have lost faith in career politicians and their sycophants (especially when voters dont see tangible change to their quality of life) When establishment demopcrats attempt to gaslight everyone else to get in line, all it does is serve as a sobering reminder that they're desperate to keep this clownshow on life support 1 1
bijonse Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 5 hours ago, TYMPS said: The United States government has been supportive of Israel for decades now - this isn't, like, a new Joe Biden initiative !! Maybe y’all are just waking up to how the US is still pushing to colonize the world the same way the white settlers who came here colonized America but they explained it to yall in US history class if you’re American. Maybe you weren’t paying attention
glitch Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 5 hours ago, AMIT said: do yourselves a favor and don't vote or even waste your time (and mental health) worrying about election **** that you know will lead you nowhere I'm not American so I don't have a horse in this race per se, but please please please always vote. Even if it's for an independent who has no chance of winning, or if it's just to spoil your ballot paper. At least then you count towards voting statistics. Young people not voting just gives politicians even more of an excuse to ignore them and screw them over
bijonse Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) Biden is useless but sadly the users saying that republicans are worse have a point. Like we’re all dragging Biden and republicans are still even worse than him the way he’s handled the situation in Palestine is the final nail in the coffin for his 2024 campaign he is losing that election if he runs for president after all the unkept promises. Trump has his cult behind him but EVERYONE is done with Biden. It makes me scared that trump will win and immediately have us in a ww3 situation. There needs to be some dark horse candidate that wins bc Biden is a still a bad choice Edited November 8, 2023 by bijonse
State of Grace. Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 Watching liberals here and on Twitter basically saying the same "Well suck it up and vote for Biden because Trump is worse" to Palestinian/Arab Americans and other minorites is so ******* insane 3 1
Airlie Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Sweet Sexy Savage said: There’s always voting independent, but yet you’re going to call me and many others stupid for giving the win to the Republicans. Isn’t that telling of how shitty the Democratic party is? That they have to rely on Gen Z voters like me, who are hyperaware of the atrocities committed by both parties, to show out for the democratic primary? Y’all are 3 pages in this thread trying to argue this point with no alternative other than “not voting” Amerikkka, just like most “Western” countries in the world, have two main parties. Yes, there are others in between but they will never see the light of day in terms of holding power. Especially not in America and especially not after Trump’s massive divide between the two parties (compared to Obama/Biden and other times). Now that we have that established, which most would’ve thought was obvious, what is your plan other than to be useless at home and not vote and ***** at anybody else who does? 1
2NE1 Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 10 hours ago, SuperCiC1 said: Thinking in black and white is not critical only one party wants to ban all immigration, especially Muslims, and make Christianity the state religion. Which is exactly what you’re doing. There’s a reason the Starbucks boycott is working.
AMIT Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 11 hours ago, glitch said: I'm not American so I don't have a horse in this race per se, but please please please always vote. Even if it's for an independent who has no chance of winning, or if it's just to spoil your ballot paper. At least then you count towards voting statistics. Young people not voting just gives politicians even more of an excuse to ignore them and screw them over Casting a vote means you support the current system and wants it to continue the way it is. Casting a vote means you agree with everything your candidate of choice will do in case they win. You have no control over that. What does counting towards voting statistics do? It only shows the number of people who were succesfully duped by the system into legitimizing it. The state wants you to keep giving it validation and your vote is a pretty clear cut way of contributing to that. The state is not your friend, it does not serve you, you serve it. It does not matter where you are from, they are all the same. Voting is a waste of time (talking about elections here, not something like referendums for example). For me it's the fact that people in the US were constantly told over and over that Biden was the ''lesser of two evils'' and now they KEEP peddling that narrative even after he endorsed a ******* genocide !!!!!! No matter how many DNC bootlickers come out of their caves to scream at us that not voting is a vote for Trump!!1!!11 it will not change the fact that Genocide Joe has failed to address climate change, to defund the police, to handle the immigrant crisis, to cancel student debt, to grant people access to quality free healthcare and the list goes on. The people will react accordingly. I guess voting independant is less worse than voting for the other 2 trash cans, but again you are still then legitimizing the state and the system it put into place without your consent. Every person that is considered a minority has better things to be doing with their time than voting and getting involved with anything to do with elections.
GraceRandolph Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 12:13 AM, Newt said: Im honestly sick of people playing games with our political system. Votes are given to those with views that align with our own. If democrats fail to secure their base, then they dont earn the right to steer the ship. If the country falls deeper into hell, it is entirely on our leaders for failing at their JOB, not voters who have lost faith in career politicians and their sycophants (especially when voters dont see tangible change to their quality of life) When establishment demopcrats attempt to gaslight everyone else to get in line, all it does is serve as a sobering reminder that they're desperate to keep this clownshow on life support Centrist libs seem to think it’s crazy that votes have to actually be earned.
RunUpDoneUp Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Interesting, so now it's Trump fault that people have a problem with zionism? Even though Trump is ON YOUR SIDE?! If anything, the fact that trump is on your side should tell you EXACTLY how terrible you're being. The only thing that helps trump is going against the people and we know people are not on the side of mass murder and genocide, sorry fetty.
Luckitty Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 democrats and republicans are the same thing, maybe they're different in the US but their foreign policies are the exact same: kill hundreds of thousands if not millions in the middle east & central asia + destabilize countries and create as many conflicts as possible in order to profit from weapon sales 2
Ghiles Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 I'm sorry but it's so funny to me when Zionists say things like "return the hostages safely" or "bring them home", like do they actually think that's going to happen with the way Israel is dropping bombs left and right on Gaza?
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