news Fetterman tells Arab voters: "Shut the f- up", says Biden is entitled to full support

[AMIT]

White liberals will really continue to guilt trip people into voting for their dumpster fire candidates and consequently upholding this sham of a system that does not give anyone anything of worth no matter who is in the driver seat or what year it is

 

do yourselves a favor and don't vote or even waste your time (and mental health) worrying about election **** that you know will lead you nowhere

[Dancehall Queen]

25 minutes ago, Kassi said:

Conor Lamb would never. 

I know it’s not a serious reply but that man has said the same thing, maybe in an even more condescending way  

[CandleGuy]

1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said:

Honey that lesser of two evils bullshit ain’t gonna get Gen Z to the polls.

Not going to the polls is how they lost abortion rights in 15 states

[SuperCiC1]

6 minutes ago, differentkindahigh said:

I already said this was gonna happen. I said also the other shitbags would be doing the party's work and vote shaming Palestinians 

 

 

Do we all understand that accepting that there are only two possible options and discerning the better of the two (or lesser of two evils) is exactly what critical thinking is???

 

Obviously acting like they're both the same and not voting is not it. Only one of them wants to dismantle democracy. Also, only one of them created a whole Muslim travel ban.

[SuperCiC1]

5 minutes ago, AMIT said:

do yourselves a favor and don't vote or even waste your time (and mental health) worrying about election **** that you know will lead you nowhere

Let's just get rid of democracy now then. 

[AMIT]

Just now, SuperCiC1 said:

Let's just get rid of democracy now then. 

You need to have had it in the first place to then lose it, sis. 

[Redstreak]

What an absolute freak

[ICLDXU4HS]

 

[GraceRandolph]

5 minutes ago, CandleGuy said:

Not going to the polls is how they lost abortion rights in 15 states

Gen Z couldn’t vote in 2016. Maybe the Democratic Party should’ve been proactive in 2008-2016 with SCOTUS. 

[QueenB]

8 minutes ago, AMIT said:

White liberals will really continue to guilt trip people into voting for their dumpster fire candidates and consequently upholding this sham of a system that does not give anyone anything of worth no matter who is in the driver seat or what year it is

 

do yourselves a favor and don't vote or even waste your time (and mental health) worrying about election **** that you know will lead you nowhere

you do realize there's a thing called local elections that definitely will have an impact on you? you should definitely be voting regardless 

[AMIT]

1 minute ago, QueenB said:

you do realize there's a thing called local elections that definitely will have an impact on you? you should definitely be voting regardless 

I guess, but those could still go either way with the way the system works. I still disagree. 

[differentkindahigh]

17 minutes ago, SuperCiC1 said:

Do we all understand that accepting that there are only two possible options and discerning the better of the two (or lesser of two evils) is exactly what critical thinking is???

 

Obviously acting like they're both the same and not voting is not it. Only one of them wants to dismantle democracy. Also, only one of them created a whole Muslim travel ban.

Democracy is on the line every 4 years. Both parties repeat that same trope to their voters every 4 years. The same people do the same stuff you're doing every 4 years. The DNC picks their own candidates that you have 0 say in, every 4 years. There is no "choice", the DNC chooses for you . There is no critical thinking with yall. If Trump was a Democrat and Biden was a Republican yall would be voting for Donald Trump, even with his Muslim ban, no matter what he'sever said, did or wants to do, as long as the DNC told you to vote for him. Youd be in here spouting the same nonsense. Let's actually be serious and do real critical thinking.

 

Not wasting anymore time here.

Edited November 8, 2023 by differentkindahigh

[SuperCiC1]

17 minutes ago, differentkindahigh said:

Democracy is on the line every 4 years. Both parties repeat that same trope to their voters every 4 years. The same people do the same stuff you're doing every 4 years. The DNC picks their own candidates that you have 0 say in, every 4 years. There is no "choice", the DNC chooses for you . There is no critical thinking with yall. If Trump was a Democrat and Biden was a Republican yall would be voting for Donald Trump, even with his Muslim ban, no matter what he'sever said, did or wants to do, as long as the DNC told you to vote for him. Youd be in here spouting the same nonsense. Let's actually be serious and do real critical thinking.

 

Not wasting anymore time here.

Lots of hypotheticals and baseless assumptions there. How many insurrections have there been? How many times has someone denied the results of an election? How many times has someone been impeached twice? Do you think being purely irrational and reactionary is critical thinking?  

Edited November 8, 2023 by SuperCiC1

[wastedpotential]

11 minutes ago, differentkindahigh said:

Democracy is on the line every 4 years. Both parties repeat that same trope to their voters every 4 years. The same people do the same stuff you're doing every 4 years. The DNC picks their own candidates that you have 0 say in, every 4 years. There is no "choice", the DNC chooses for you 

Having the party elites pick the candidate without even trying to pander to their voters with a primary is very common practice in just about every other democracy out there. The primary system is nowhere near perfect, but the fact that it exists in the first place, and is as broadly used as it is across both local and national elections is one of the strongest aspects of the American electoral system. It's pretty much the only reason why the big-tent party ideology system still exists. 

 

OT I can't say I'm surprised he's sharing this opinion. The Pennsylvania miners, steelworkers, and factory laborers that swung for Trump in 2016 that the Dems had taken for granted as non-voters (and as strong supporters in earlier elections) which are still for the most part the electoral bloc most up for grabs in the state, aren't exactly the type to make voting decisions based on foreign policy issues. 

[Cruel Summer]

33 minutes ago, SuperCiC1 said:

Do we all understand that accepting that there are only two possible options and discerning the better of the two (or lesser of two evils) is exactly what critical thinking is???

 

Obviously acting like they're both the same and not voting is not it. Only one of them wants to dismantle democracy. Also, only one of them created a whole Muslim travel ban.

The idea that there are only two options is a lie propagated by the Democrats. They could hold a full primary and run a better candidate; they simply choose not to.

[SuperCiC1]

1 minute ago, Cruel Summer said:

The idea that there are only two options is a lie propagated by the Democrats. They could hold a full primary and run a better candidate; they simply choose not to.

Maybe so but there are currently only two possible choices and only one of those choices instigated an insurrection after losing last time. 

[Communion]

7 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Having the party elites pick the candidate without even trying to pander to their voters with a primary is very common practice in just about every other democracy out there. The primary system is nowhere near perfect, but the fact that it exists in the first place, and is as broadly used as it is across both local and national elections is one of the strongest aspects of the American electoral system. It's pretty much the only reason why the big-tent party ideology system still exists. 

 

OT I can't say I'm surprised he's sharing this opinion. The Pennsylvania miners, steelworkers, and factory laborers that swung for Trump in 2016 that the Dems had taken for granted as non-voters (and as strong supporters in earlier elections) which are still for the most part the electoral bloc most up for grabs in the state, aren't exactly the type to make voting decisions based on foreign policy issues. 

*sees the democratic Western world largely falling apart and the rise of fascism* Well.. 

[awesomepossum]

And what of the Palestinian children who have been killed? I cannot believe demented psychopaths like this guy, Biden, basically the entire US Congress, actually exist. Heartless disgusting PIGS.

Edited November 8, 2023 by awesomepossum

[Gaia]

2024-2025 is going to be so interesting in trump wins. I anticipate seeing a lot of people “regretting” their sit out of the 2024 election when Trump bans Muslim immigration into the US, funds the genocide of Palestinians proudly, and paints Islam as public enemy #1 of the US. 

[SuperCiC1]

I know Western media makes it seem like the American people undervalue the lives of Palestinians vs Israelis but this is not true and realizing that the guy who instituted a Muslim travel ban is definitely still ALWAYS the worst case scenario is the most important part of that when it comes to the 2024 US presidential election.

[dawnettakins]

He's unbelievably disappointing on this issue.

 

Like he could be out there being one of the only Senators demanding a ceasefire,  or rallying around the UAW workers and union who just won historic agreements, but instead he's doing this.

 

And allowing his security to assault citizens and constituents..

[wastedpotential]

6 minutes ago, Communion said:

*sees the democratic Western world largely falling apart and the rise of fascism* Well.. 

My statement was directed to a user who was proclaiming the primary system to be dead because the DNC had exerted significant control over the selection of Joe Biden and is thus a non-legitimate practice, a sentiment that I broadly agree with (though I'd also argue that the lack of a true primary for Dems going into the 2024 election can at least partially be blamed on too many people in the party bureaucracy having been around for so long that they've just gotten used to the idea of an incumbent actually being tolerated by their constituents in the lead up to a second term, and are not capable of moving fast enough to actually adapt to how unpopular Biden is at this point; what will be really interesting is the hypothetical 2028 Republican primary in a world where Trump wins and whether he or the RNC choose to **** on the system and the twenty-second amendment). The Democrats are certainly abusing the system as it exists, but any true US fascism will be coming from the Republican Party, which is currently broadly upholding the primary system as we've known it since 1972. My point was made to highlight the fact that the concept of a primary system to pick the candidates for parties in nation-wide head of government elections is a positive aspect that is unique to the US (I know that some parties in France have been toying around with it but it was only the Socialist party who used them, and they didn't use it during the most recent election; and I'm also aware that there are several users in this thread that will have a hard time accepting that the US electoral system is actually good at something), because I don't think arguing that "the DNC chooses for you and the cycle is inevitable" holds much water when looking beyond the last 2 election cycles (I know that the average political memory isn't that robust, but 2008 wasn't that long ago). 

 

I think that the primary system in the US has kept the overall system much more functional than it would (or will) be without it, given Duverger's law and the need for big tent parties given the US electoral system, the ability to at least believe you exert some degree of choice over who is the candidate in a general election (as opposed to the systems in Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Australia, The Netherlands, Sweden, Japan not that it matters there, the EU Parliament, or any of the other democracies I failed to mention) makes it more palatable for voter buy-in to the system, even if their candidate of choice does not win the election. Now, whether that system survives the next few elections certainly remains to be seen, but it is absolutely one of the most respectable institutions of American democracy while it has lasted. 

 

Honestly, it's pretty ironic that at this moment in time, the most democratic leadership-selection process for any major party candidate for head of government is probably being conducted by the GOP. 

[Airlie]

1 hour ago, AMIT said:

White liberals will really continue to guilt trip people into voting for their dumpster fire candidates and consequently upholding this sham of a system that does not give anyone anything of worth no matter who is in the driver seat or what year it is

 

do yourselves a favor and don't vote or even waste your time (and mental health) worrying about election **** that you know will lead you nowhere

Yaaas let’s instead stay home and give Trump or Desantis 4 years like with Trump v. Hillary  y’all are truly birdbrained 

[Blue Monday]

This human vegetable just keeps revealing himself to be an absolute piece of sh*t

[2NE1]

3 hours ago, SuperCiC1 said:

Because they lack critical thinking skills???

Because we’re not supporting a party that doesn’t care </3