Mr. Stratus Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, fra said: Why do people keep confusing supporting their favorite artist with dragging others? We all have different taste and that's why we don't stan the same person but just stick to that rather than diminish others. We have to celebrate success not start fights or beefs between fandoms... there are way too many already. Just be the better person Cardigan streams are good seeing as it was not a hit outside USA at the time and rain on me had amazing WW peaks. Both songs won. the problem is the OP is a Katy Stan and he knows she won’t have a hit ever again 1
Redstreak Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 47 minutes ago, Phoenixstar said: You do realize that majority of Taylor stans are white and gays? Majority gay fan base? In this economy?
Gerardo Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 46 minutes ago, Infinite said: lmao cardigan is for black and latinos ? My exact thoughts, they really think 1 1
Brikenbur Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 I’m neither a “fan” of Taylor or Gaga, despite liking several songs in their respective catalogues, but, not surprised by this thread. Clearly, Taylor is having an astronomical resurgence in terms of her discography by a newer generation who believes her music is more in depth than it actually is. Thanks to TikTok and social media in general, I think Swifties like to actively be a part in listening to her music, decoding it, engaging in it with fellow peers online and in real life— basically, living and breathing it. Taylor is the only artist in my lifetime that I can recall being able to have a great grasp on her fanbase and be able to make them ALL feel included as if they’re along for the ride. Not only that, I think the GP favors her more so now than ever with her most recent tour, relationship, re-recordings, etc. Good for Taylor, but, long story short — not surprised. Taylor’s entire discography is receiving millions of streams daily; even album cuts. So, “cardigan” surpassing “Rain On Me” is not a surprise. In a sense, “Rain On Me” came and went, whereas “cardigan” has resurgences due to The Eras Tour, not being in the concert film and ultimately being a part of her AOTY-winning album, folklore 2
Selenasworld Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 No, I'm surprised Rain On Me gas 995M streams
Finkypop Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 But I was told that cardigan isn't a hit, while Rain On Me is one of Gaga's biggest hits. Confused
Mr. Duff Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Surprised? Yes, because Rain on Me was being hailed as a massive pop song when it came out particularly since Ariana was the MPG of that period. It fizzled though, even Stuck With You is generating more streams. Also I never really expected Cardigan to get to 1B and overtake ROM, because of how indie and alternative it is. But hey, a great song will always triumph. 1
KOMH Posted November 7, 2023 Author Posted November 7, 2023 43 minutes ago, perfillusion said: OP being a Katy stan and making this thread One minute I'm a Madonna stan, the next a Katycat. You Monsters spend more time baselessly accusing Swifties of being in different fandoms than streaming your faves songs. 1
NoOneDiesFromLove Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Not at all. One is Taylor’s magnum opus and the other is Squirt On Me
Alexz Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, ariananext said: It was a moment in pop culture. It wasn't. 1
KOMH Posted November 7, 2023 Author Posted November 7, 2023 54 minutes ago, Mr. Stratus said: the problem is the OP is a Katy Stan and he knows she won’t have a hit ever again And what evidence do you have to support this assertion, Mr. Stratus?
hungrymuffin Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Gerardo said: My exact thoughts, they really think no white gays = black & latino you really think please at least use your brain OT: im surprised cardigan is so close to 1b what kind of flop could reach 1b? atrl lost again 2
perfillusion Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, KOMH said: One minute I'm a Madonna stan, the next a Katycat. You Monsters spend more time baselessly accusing Swifties of being in different fandoms than streaming your faves songs. Is putting a popstar in blackface for stanwar reasons allowed? @ATRL Administration This avi is super darkened. Also no Taylor stans are obsessively anti Gaga, I get that Taylor ended your fave Katy during their feud and made sure all the white girls in the world turned their backs on her, but that's not Gaga's fault. You just gotta deal! 1
Peroxide Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Oh? Both are nearing a billion? Slay. We love these iconic number one smashes.
KOMH Posted November 7, 2023 Author Posted November 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, perfillusion said: Is putting a popstar in blackface for stanwar reasons allowed? This avi is super darkened. Also no Taylor stans are obsessively anti Gaga, I get that Taylor ended your fave Katy during their feud and made sure all the white girls in the world turned their backs on her, but that's not Gaga's fault. You just gotta deal! Darkened? This same picture is widely available on Google. I'm afraid there's more where that came from. https://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/338805-rita-ora-gets-blackfishing-accusations/?page=7 https://www.fanpop.com/clubs/lady-gaga/images/34228409/title/new-outtakes-marcel-montemayor-2008-photo https://pinterest.com/pin/lady-gaga-photoshoot-2009-yahoo-image-search-results--796714990354914663/ You're the one that has to deal with people calling out your fave's questionable antics. I don't give a **** *** about Katy
Taylena Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Taylor's "flop" indie song vs a big pop release from two major pop-stars. who would've thought?
Assassin Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Even I like cardigan and I am known as an OTH on here. ROM is a terrible song.
gatito Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 ariana can only do so much for a dying career cardigan is the superior song to this feels correct 1 4 2
jjmed59 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) no. while taylor is actively showing love and promoting her discography, farmer grande has torn it down (her saying she hates touch it and others 💀) and only acknowledges anniversaries, and bc her label prob makes her. no comment on ga. Edited November 7, 2023 by jjmed59
Brooklyn Baby Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 No I'm not surprised. Rain on Me is a bad song. 1
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