base talk Was Lady Gaga ahead of her time for this song?

[artc0cx]

Yes, easily one of her best songs 

[Soda Pop Queen]

I'm not sure about "ahead of its time" yet but I've always liked the song. Never got the hate the Monsters had for it. It wasn't her first flirtation with Rock instrumentation at all.

[LittleStarmen]

Hmm not really it just sounds bad or irrelevant nowadays. It also doesnt fit on Joanne either

 

too noisy

[teresaguidice]

not necessarily ahead of it's time, but it's so needlessly overhated cause it flopped. yes, the vocals are grating and the lyrics are missing some sharpness or wit or something, but the instrumental still carries it to bop status imo. 

 

 

[Ron Ng]

One of the worst songs of all time, nice production but her voice was unlistenable

Edited November 7, 2023 by Ron Ng

[jim19911126]

4 hours ago, Miichael said:

Yeah, but she's usually ahead of the curve and doing things that become trendy in the following years so that's nothing new

this is so right, just saw Pitchfork and the Grammys post about ARTPOP and called it "brave" and "ahead of the time", a true artist.

[JoeAg]

10 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

if she kept the demo yes, but bloodclot and her ****** up the song so no 

PERIOD (if by demo you mean this…)

[Solaria]

I like Perfect Illusion a lot but Dua working with Kevin has nothing to do with Gaga. Dua has been wanting to work with Kevin in forever, she’s named Currents as her favourite album many times

[Titanbaddie]

This is the guy who wrote and produced Rihanna's Same Ol' Mistakes from Anti right?

 

I'm gonna assume Dua probably was influenced by that. 

[GraceRandolph]

6 hours ago, Soda Pop Queen said:

I'm not sure about "ahead of its time" yet but I've always liked the song. Never got the hate the Monsters had for it. It wasn't her first flirtation with Rock instrumentation at all.

The Kelis avi is a whole serve

[FreeXone]

No Kevin’s demo is better 

[FreeXone]

13 minutes ago, Titanbaddie said:

This is the guy who wrote and produced Rihanna's Same Ol' Mistakes from Anti right?

 

I'm gonna assume Dua probably was influenced by that. 

Rihanna just covered it but same

ol mistakes is EEVERYTHING. Rihanna’s vocals ATE ON IT 

[Iris]

Same Ol Mistakes came out before Perfect Illusion so no. 

 

As much as I like PI, I have to be honest: Gaga managed to waste a flawless instrumental by overshadowing it with belting and whining from start to finish. Dua Lipa on the other hand would've done the instrumental justice by letting it breathe. 

Edited November 7, 2023 by Iris
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[Titanbaddie]

6 minutes ago, FreeXone said:

Rihanna just covered it but same

ol mistakes is EEVERYTHING. Rihanna’s vocals ATE ON IT 

The production on that song is spectacular I'm sure Dua gagged. 

[istan4badgalriri]

2016 was 7 years ago so no, doesn’t really make sense

 

Rihanna released Same Ol’ Mistakes earlier that same year too