base talk Katy Perry outstreaming Beyonce on Spotify. Surprised?

[Alexz]

14 hours ago, Cryptique said:

The fact that releasing REN did nothing to her catalog.. like HOW?? 

It was really bad.

[Dreajae]

The obsession with Spotify never ends. Meanwhile Bey remains top 10 for women in lead streams overall. An artist who started her career in the 90s. 

 

Katy and Gaga aren't outselling Bey in pure sales nor or they out touring. Oh wait, there's youtube which pays the lowest out of all streaming platforms. 

 

 

[swissman]

4 hours ago, JawBreaker said:

Beyonce is a queen and shes eons above Katy. But it's really impressive how she made the public perceived her as being "the biggest artist" with such lackluster numbers. 

 

Beyoncé made an entire career of getting hits and being so culturally ubiquitous that the title of one of her songs went into the dictionary. From 1998-2010 she had what felt like a non-stop hold on the charts. It's why she was Billboard's Decade-End #1 female artist (and that didn't even include Destiny's Child).

 

She kicked off the 2000s with a #1 hit in Say My Name, one of the most celebrated pop songs ever, and ended the decade starting 2009 with another #1 hit in Single Ladies, one of the most iconic video/pop moments of all time. She then entered the 2010s on Gaga's Telephone, another massive hit. Her first era had back-to-back #1 hits for a total of 17-weeks on top, then another single at #4 and another at #3. When things seemed to flop (like Ring the Alarm) she came immediately back breaking records, scoring a ten week #1 over the holidays so big it ultimately was named Billboard's Year-End #1 Hit of 2007.

 

She has the longest run at #1 in history in one calendar year by a female artist. In the 2000s, she had the most cumulative weeks at #1 by a female artist. She's the only artist to chart 10 weeks at #1 in a group and as a solo artist. We could go on...

 

Only after she "flopped" with 4 did she start complately changing the way she worked, and to date, no pop-star at her level since Prince has done more to self-sabotage, and limit their exposure, marketing and subsequent possible success than her.

 

She didn't make the public perceive her as being the biggest artist, she showed the public what a mammoth Artist (capital A) she is...not necessarily a commercial artist but a creative force. ST was game-changing and forever changed pop. Lemonade was a cultural moment and won a Peabody, one of the most prestigious awards out there, something no other pop album has ever done and an award shared by only one other female entertainer (Barbra Streisand). Homecoming was perhaps the most impactful concert and/or pop documentary of the last decade. RENAISSANCE had no promo, no music videos, no performances and still was the most consistently named "best album" of 2022.

To say that she "made" or tricked anyone into thinking she is anything is a bit ludicrous, when all that she is accredited for has come to her from decades of hard work, success, and artistic merit.

 

 

Edited November 7, 2023 by swissman

[Alexz]

Did Katy fizzle?

[period sis]

17 minutes ago, Alexz said:

Did Katy fizzle?

Britney did

[Alexz]

23 minutes ago, period sis said:

Britney did

So is Beyoncé from Spotify.

[period sis]

14 minutes ago, Alexz said:

So is Beyoncé from Spotify.

Outstreams Beyonce literally everyday

[Alexz]

22 minutes ago, period sis said:

Outstreams Beyonce literally everyday

I know Katy is outstreaming Beyoncé

[period sis]

37 minutes ago, Alexz said:

I know Katy is outstreaming Beyoncé

and yet still stuck in Vegas which Beyonce tours stadiums 

[bijonse]

11 hours ago, JawBreaker said:

Beyonce is a queen and shes eons above Katy. But it's really impressive how she made the public perceived her as being "the biggest artist" with such lackluster numbers. 

 

I don’t think people perceive her as the biggest bc normal people don’t think in stats like that  they see her as the golden standard - the best - the goat etc.

[Alexz]

Katy stayed ahead the golden standard - the best - the goat etc. Beyoncé.

Edited November 7, 2023 by Alexz
correction

[swissman]

1 hour ago, bijonse said:

I don’t think people perceive her as the biggest bc normal people don’t think in stats like that  they see her as the golden standard - the best - the goat etc.

This.

 

We only have to pay attention to popular media and we can see how people refer to Beyoncé and this speaks volumes about how they regard her.

 

The fact that just about every reality TV show will at some point have some contestant (ie. person of the general public) describe themselves as "The Beyoncé of this competition" (or whatever category the show is) is proof of that. I've even seen a glass-blowing show where a contestant referred to herself as such.

 

You get a lot of references to iconic pop-stars, but not so often do we get ones of this positive nature that aren't specific to their work but who they are as an entity. Here, it's clear in the usage that they mean "the best of the best" kind of thing.

 

Another common use would be that of calling someone a diva by saying something like, "Who does she think she is, Madonna?" or whatever else.

 

 

Edited November 7, 2023 by swissman

[bijonse]

4 hours ago, Alexz said:

Katy stayed ahead the golden standard - the best - the goat etc. Beyoncé.

On Spotify for a few days and in YouTube streams. She is behind her everywhere else 

[Great808]

One thing about Beyoncé is her music is GONNA become forgotten, Lemonade and ST proved this. 

[Big Bad Wolf]

Nnnnn.

 

Beyonce just doesn't have the strongest catalog to look back on....when I want to hear older Beyonce music, it's usually something from DC. That said, Renaissance is eons better than Traumatica.  Bey made Chromatica look like a tacky cheap album made in someone's makeshift studio let's be real now.

[Big Bad Wolf]

2 minutes ago, Great808 said:

One thing about Beyoncé is her music is GONNA become forgotten, Lemonade and ST proved this. 

How? Those are her biggest albums. If anything, Lemonade is her classic album. ST is too dated in 2023.

[Great808]

1 minute ago, Big Bad Wolf said:

How? Those are her biggest albums. If anything, Lemonade is her classic album. ST is too dated in 2023.

Look up Lemonade and ST’s current streams, Lemonade isn’t even in the top most 50 streamed MPG albums. 
 

 

[DoubleRainbow!]

Can't believe y'all fell for that little monster trolling 

[Thor]

23 hours ago, period sis said:

 

You just described this:

 

Actually, that’s camp. 
 

And Renaissance is a dated MESS. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. 

[Thor]

20 hours ago, BnPac said:

Aged like milk yet does not have a single album track under 50 M, has one with 200M streams and a bunch with more than 100M streams a little over a year later on Spotify and was again last month charting in AM top 10 albums. Yeah, keep lying to yourselves. 

 

Aging like spoiled milk is having ONE single track over 100M because it features a huge Asian female group. Aging like spoiled milk is barely having album tracks with 50M streams... 3 years later. Or having more than half of the album streams coming from the two songs featuring Ariana and Blackpink.

 

OT: Yeah, Renaissance sounds pretty dated.

Edited November 8, 2023 by Thor

[Alexz]

38 minutes ago, Great808 said:

One thing about Beyoncé is her music is GONNA become forgotten, Lemonade and ST proved this. 

Lemonade is forgotten.

[Fleahive]

2008 to 2011 are the very nostalgic years for gen z right now. Those years Katy dominated. Beyoncé did too in a way but her more memorable hits are from years prior bar Halo and nobody actually listens to single ladies. Once this generation moves past that era of nostalgia it’ll sadly be over for miss katy. Bey may have a resurge when they realize she’s the reason why pink+white is their favorite frank ocean song of all time. 

[period sis]

48 minutes ago, Thor said:

Actually, that’s camp. 

Im glad you and the remaining 60k people that stream it daily agree

[Archetype]

Bey’s catalogue is really weak compared to the behemoth nature of her cultural relevance.  A lot of things don’t add up for her, but we excuse it because she can go on huge tours and get hits 20+ years into her career.  She’s not really comparable to anyone else in most aspects even if her stats aren’t great.

[zoldyck]

As a monster, this thread is gonna get nasty bump when Katy starts outsreaming Gaga during Christmas season due to cozy little Christmas.

 

Katy honesty has built impressive catalogue in her 5 years career. She has classic for every season. Cozy Little Christmas (Christmas), Fireworks (New Year and July 4th), Dark Horse (Halloween) and Teenage Dream (Valentine). These songs keep getting bigger and bigger every year and helps people check out her other songs also. Her music have surely stood the test of time.