Alexz Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Noodles said: Please shut the f up and go read up on the history of sampling if you're so invested about it Maybe then you'd at least have a clue about what you're saying What a loser, sorry Jesus YNTCD Beyoncé is bland and basic just as Taylor but she lacks the appeal to debut with 1M it shouldn't get you so hot and bothered 1 4
Alexz Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Beyoncé can't debut with 1M because when she releases an album you have to stop your listening experience to go and check out the songs she samples and/or takes writing credits for therefore you can never spend an entire week streaming her. Taylor fans don't have this issue. 1 4
period sis Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 29 minutes ago, Alexz said: I know does sampling a guitar riff make it white people music?? All you do is talk, and yet have no idea what you're saying
period sis Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Alexz said: Beyoncé can't debut with 1M because when she releases an album you have to stop your listening experience to go and check out the songs she samples and/or takes writing credits for therefore you can never spend an entire week streaming her. Taylor fans don't have this issue. I can only imagine how long it must have taken you to think of this, and try to make it make sense... 3 1 1
Maxxie Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Beyonce is not desperate enough nor does she need to cater towards lonely deranged teenage girls. 2 1
Trash Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Y'all trying to drag her when she could've done it in 2013, or at least get close, with a full tracking week. It's not like she needs it either. 1
swissman Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 11 hours ago, Alexz said: Don't tell me making a song from another Stevie Nicks' song is "black music" please. Yes because Stevie Nicks famously wrote the lyrics for Bootylicious. 1
swissman Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Trash said: Y'all trying to drag her when she could've done it in 2013, or at least get close, with a full tracking week. It's not like she needs it either. That's the thing. It really doesn't matter. She really doesn't need it to explain her legacy. If someone said "Beyoncé sold 1 million in her first week with ST", not a lot of the GP would question it because 1) no one cares or knows about these kinds of stats except pop stans and 2) it was such a big, impactful pop event that it very believably could have sold that much and 3) it actually did come close to it without even trying very hard, without so much of the tactics that popstars employ to help get them to 1 million-selling debut. Edited October 31, 2023 by swissman 1
swissman Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Haters securing themselves to this "stat" (ie. Beyoncé hasn't opened with 1m+") just shows the grasping they'll do to have something negative to say about her aligning themselves with ideas that actually don't matter out in the real world and that no pop layman would guess. Added to the fact that the only other Black woman to do this is literally legend Whitney Houston who did it in conjunction with a hit, mass-appeal movie and you really see that they're holding it against Beyoncé for not having achieved something that only one Black woman has and who did so under arguably the best of circumstances. I think in instances like The Backstreet Boys this stat may matter because it impressively puts their huge and massive success at the time into numbers, a success that has not necessarily translated into the group being part of modern pop culture lore thus their summation as artists relies on stats to point to what a phenomenon they were for those who, decades after their dominance, are not familiar with the group beyond the basics. The same cannot be said about Beyoncé, who has remained culturally relevant since the year after the Backstreet Boys stepped on the scene. This is not intended to shade them, but just to show where the stat can matter, and how it cannot. Edited October 31, 2023 by swissman 3 1
GreatestLoveofAll Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Whether she sells 300k or 1 million she's still a legend and the most respected of her peers. Her legacy is set. 5 1
ABeyBraith Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 1:16 AM, LoveInStereo said: The GP is tired of these writing camp’d, soulless projects. All the big newbies atm are singer songwriters. It’s never going to happen for her tbh. She’s not ever gonna be seen as a “real artist” by the majority of ppl, just a product, don’t hate me, it’s just the truth Calling Renaissance soulless but celebrating and loving the cookie cutter, boring, monotonous shite that Taylor Swift releases is an absolute KII 2
swissman Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 On 10/28/2023 at 8:16 PM, LoveInStereo said: The GP is tired of these writing camp’d, soulless projects. All the big newbies atm are singer songwriters. It’s never going to happen for her tbh. She’s not ever gonna be seen as a “real artist” by the majority of ppl, just a product, don’t hate me, it’s just the truth I find it hard to believe the majority of people see Beyoncé's work as "just a product" more than any other popstar, just by the nature of having writing camps. What does the GP see about a Beyoncé "product"? They don't see her promoting her "product". They see her barely do the minimum to maximize sales potential. They hear her generally sidestep radio trends, and in the case of her last album, they find that she's let the work speak for itself entirely with not a single music video released in the nearly 1.5 years the first instance of music from the album was released. Meanwhile they see other stars release multiple albums a year, sometimes five or more versions of the same album in different colour ways to get their "products" to sell as much as they can, they see people put a different bonus songs on different releases so fans are forced to buy an entire album again just to get one extra song, they see artists on social media every day of their release week promoting their products, pointing to all of the above mentioned variations. All in all, people may see Beyoncé as a product, but even the most "I write my own music all by myself" popstars are still giving "written and released for mass consumption." 5 1
Avenger Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 The real question is, what Taylor has to do to sell more than 3M in a week like Adele?
Vitaly Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 Obviusy she have to drop her current unattainable image and make herself relatable again, but that's not her gig nowadays. She have her own niche and that's okay tbh
redsbae Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 .007% of the population know about music stats. The average person probably thinks Beyoncé has done this already. The fact that she hasn’t and just did almost a $600 million tour with little dates, speaks volumes 2
AngelSwift13 Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 She might have with self titled if she didn’t drop it on a Friday when the tracking week started on Tuesday. Her 10 day figure showed she had a chance of getting close 🤕
Vrx. Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 Tbh another visual album and she'd legit be able to. Not sure why she didn't do that for Renaissance since they visuals would be stunning
Great808 Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 Gain super deranged fans that buy more than 5 copies of each album if not at least 10. I know a handful of Swifties here and there online for a while and literally I don’t know any that stop at 1 copy or 1 download, literally multiple.
Badgalbriel Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 Beyonce can easily do it if she bothers to promote her music. It's all on her, but the interest is there.
BnPac Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 3:21 PM, swissman said: Added to the fact that the only other Black woman to do this is literally legend Whitney Houston who did it in conjunction with a hit, mass-appeal movie and you really see that they're holding it against Beyoncé for not having achieved something that only one Black woman has and who did so under arguably the best of circumstances. And if we want to be precise in relationship to the threads title, not even Whitney Houston has managed to debut with 1M in the US. Not a single black female musician has sadly been able to so it's weird that she's being faulted for that. The Bodyguard sold 1M twice during the movie's run but not as a debut. And again it's not about racism, it's just the way things look for minorities. Beyoncé has came very close to it. If her not doing it is proof she's not a sales' artist then what does it say for the rest. Plus, her career is not over. 1
alfonso12 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 She would have to do bland music that everyone can relate to.
btoafy Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 On 10/30/2023 at 5:16 AM, prézli said: Beyoncé is a bigger icon than Taylor, so she doesn't need that. we dont care about Beyonce in Asia 1 1
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