swissman Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 She came very close to it with ST without any streaming support (though it was a smaller chunk of the total sales back then), without notice, without promo, without physical sales, without interviews/magazine covers, without preorder, without a lead single, without a full tracking week and remaining relatively silent throughout the week of release. It's highly possible she could have gotten over 1 million copies in a week if she had adjusted even just a few of these things. Even perhaps leading with Drunk in Love a week prior, opening album pre-order and then still surprise releasing the album along with physical copies (which, assuming it didn't leak, probably would have had a similar effect since no one at that time would even have suspected a surprise drop). 3 1 1
period sis Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Alexz said: A good song. What would you know about that? Now Playing: Britney 3 1
Kuntmonster Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 She can’t. Never could, never will. The quality just isn’t there. And those people saying she can’t because she’s black are disgusting and need banning 2 10
Alexz Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, period sis said: What would you know about that? Now Playing: Britney Britney has debuted with 1 million, no? 1
Alexz Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/28/2023 at 4:08 PM, TayDuaStan said: Well… firstly she needs to get rid of those 20+ co-writers on songs No that's okay. She needs not to tell she wrote it though. 1
Alexz Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/28/2023 at 4:14 PM, XtunaStan said: Be bland, basic, She is. 1 2 3
Kristie Kuwa Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 57 minutes ago, Kuntmonster said: She can’t. Never could, never will. The quality just isn’t there. And those people saying she can’t because she’s black are disgusting and need banning Dont make it about quality when ur fav charts so high with literal trash 1 1
bijonse Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Kuntmonster said: She can’t. Never could, never will. The quality just isn’t there. And those people saying she can’t because she’s black are disgusting and need banning Beyoncé is the most critically acclaimed artist of today and the most awarded of her generation and will likely end her career as the most awarded ever as she’s already the top winner at several award shows. Maybe your comment about quality was about your fave gaga and you got them confused? 2 1
bijonse Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Dont make it about quality when ur fav charts so high with literal trash They’re a monster hiding behind a taylor avi tryna throw shade about quality when Renaissance - 9.0 on pitchfork/91 on mc chromatica - 7.3 on pitchfork/79 on mc 1 1 1
family.guy123 Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 Make music that appeals to the biggest common denominator? What else? What else could y’all have been discussing for 7 pages? 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, bijonse said: They’re a monster hiding behind a taylor avi tryna throw shade about quality when Renaissance - 9.0 on pitchfork/91 on mc chromatica - 7.3 on pitchfork/79 on mc I dont care about critics - people with functional ears can tell the difference in quality lol 3
swissman Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kuntmonster said: She can’t. Never could, never will. The quality just isn’t there. And those people saying she can’t because she’s black are disgusting and need banning As if quality is the determining factor here, and AS IF Beyoncé is an artist who lacks quality in her music, come on. Anyway. She definitely could have, if not now then for ST. As I mentioned before, she had so many different things that blocked the accumulation of sales at the time. In ST's first ten days of sales it sold 991,000 in the US, literally 9K shy of 1,000,000, and I know that's ten days not seven, but keeping in mind that there was absolutely ZERO physical sales in that number, ZERO streaming as well as ZERO promo, it's not far fetched in the slightest to think that had certain elements been tweaked about the rollout, that she could have achieved 1M within a week. For example, even just releasing a lead single a few weeks prior in order for it to build momentum and gain popularity (which we know Drunk in Love did) could have a decent amount of sales. Even if it only sold 90,0000 singles during release week, that would be 9K sales. However, generally popular songs in 2013 were selling much more. In December 2013, months after it had already been a #1, Wrecking Ball sold 477,000. Back when Dark Horse was a promo single (no radio, no video) it sold 194,000 copies in October 2013. Christina's version of Say Something more than tripled the original and sold 189,000 upon release and went on to sell more in a week, and at the time Christina was no sales darling. But all this is to say she had a legitimate chance to do it, but due to the factors of the release, she really did squash a lot of potential to achieve it. And still, it really doesn't matter because whether or not it sold a million doesn't matter in the slightest to its legacy. Edited October 30, 2023 by swissman 3
BrokenMachine Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 6 hours ago, UnusualBoy said: I mean that wasn't easy for black artists, I think only Whitney, MJ, 50 Cent and Lil' Wayne had done 1 milli a week so it's not as easy as you think if you're poc. This, and the chances are lower when you bring it down to just black women... Whitney is the only one who sold 1M in a week... and yet it wasn't her debut one, and it was in way a better sales climate 2
Aaron Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Kuntmonster said: She can’t. Never could, never will. The quality just isn’t there. And those people saying she can’t because she’s black are disgusting and need banning Saying this with a MIDnights avi is just 2
Carla Rosón Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 7 hours ago, Alexz said: She is. ofc a Britney stan would believe black music is basic
Alexz Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, XtunaStan said: ofc a Britney stan would believe black music is basic What's not basic about Beyoncé sampling an entire song or recording an already finished demo? 5
Alexz Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, XtunaStan said: ofc a Britney stan would believe black music is basic Don't tell me making a song from another Stevie Nicks' song is "black music" please. 1 2
GagaChina Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 taylor is unstoppable and indisputable no.1 female singer
period sis Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Alexz said: What's not basic about Beyoncé sampling an entire song or recording an already finished demo? You stan Britney, so I don't see how this should be a problem for you. 1 hour ago, Alexz said: Don't tell me making a song from another Stevie Nicks' song is "black music" please. ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 2
Alexz Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, period sis said: ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 1
Noodles Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Alexz said: Please shut the f up and go read up on the history of sampling if you're so invested about it Maybe then you'd at least have a clue about what you're saying What a loser, sorry
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