base talk 1989 Taylor's Version review thread | MC: 95

[WildOne]

14 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

As long as the re-recordings weren't absolutely butchered

Well, they were.

18 minutes ago, thinking said:

Poop from a butt could make a better album

Glad someone here has ears.

 

I love Taylor, saw the movie, have physicals of a lot of the albums, have seen multiple tours (couldn't afford Eras 😭) but letting these sound SO much worse than the originals honestly feels like a heartless cash grab at this point. If she really was coming from a place of wanting to "own her art" I just feel like she would've tried harder. Given access to the original sessions to study (which she and her producers have), I could've done a better job than this, and people who can produce as well as me are NOT THAT HARD TO FIND. It's just laziness and it feels disrespectful to the fans. You ruin the legacy of one of the tentpole pop albums of the decade and expect us to buy new CDs/vinyls/merch? Come on Taylor.

[Anvarie]

Just now, Klein said:

Let's be serious for a *****ng second here. TD is cute, it full of hits but as a whole album it's not it. 

I feel the same about 1989, and I tried listening to the album tracks of both albums. They’re pretty dreadful, it’s certainly no Red 

[Klein]

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

I feel the same about 1989, and I tried listening to the album tracks of both albums. They’re pretty dreadful, it’s certainly no Red 

Well then you're obviously in the minority. That's alright. 

 

It's no Red that I can totally agree. 

[Raspberries]

Imagine thinking an album with absolute dumpster fires like those found on Teenage Dream is better than an album with Blank Space, Style, Wildest Dreams, Clean and New Romantics  

Edited October 27, 2023 by Raspberries

[Anvarie]

I just listened to one of my favorite songs of hers off the new album, New Romantics. It sounds horrible… yet I’m supposed to believe that this re-recorded album is 20 points higher in critical acclaim? 
 

 

[Cruel Summer]

the acclaim before the storm, 1989 you ARE that girl

 

[~Start The Music]

Love it thank you

[Anvarie]

1 minute ago, Raspberries said:

Imagine thinking an album with absolute dumpster fires like those found on Teenage Dream is better than an album with Blank Space, Style, Wildest Dreams, Clean and New Romantics  

Teenage Dream has good singles, same with 1989. Where are the good album tracks on 1989? I’d say I Know Places but Katy has Circle the Drain so they’re pretty even 

[Anvarie]

Just now, PopA911 said:

you have 11 posts on the review thread of an album you supposedly don't even really like, aren't you tired?

 

OT: TABS

1989 is in my trinity of Taylor albums but this money grab scheme is tired. Like I said the re-recording sound worse production wise and vocally there’s no improvement. I just wanted to point out that’s it’s weird everyone’s acting like they’re better than the OGs

 

[Klein]

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

Teenage Dream has good singles, same with 1989. Where are the good album tracks on 1989? I’d say I Know Places but Katy has Circle the Drain so they’re pretty even 

I Know Places, Clean, AYHTDWS, Wonderland, YAIL sweeties. 

[PoisonedIvy]

3 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

I just listened to one of my favorite songs of hers off the new album, New Romantics. It sounds horrible… yet I’m supposed to believe that this re-recorded album is 20 points higher in critical acclaim? 
 

 

You don’t have to believe anything girl. These scores are just the opinions of individuals. Give it your own score and move on, it’s not this serious  

[Klein]

Just now, Anvarie said:

1989 is in my trinity of Taylor albums but this money grab scheme is tired. Like I said the re-recording sound worse production wise and vocally there’s no improvement. I just wanted to point out that’s it’s weird everyone’s acting like they’re better than the OGs

 

I "just" wanted to point that out, while having 13 posts in the thread be serious girl. 

[PoisonedIvy]

1 minute ago, Klein said:

I Know Places, Clean, AYHTDWS, Wonderland, YAIL sweeties. 

Clean alone shits on the entirety of Teenage Dream like. There’s a reason Katy is not respected as an artist. Let’s be so for real here. 

[PoisonedIvy]

God I don’t even like 1989 enough to be defending it but y’all are backing me into a corner here  

[Peak Now]

2 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

1989 is in my trinity of Taylor albums but this money grab scheme is tired. Like I said the re-recording sound worse production wise and vocally there’s no improvement. I just wanted to point out that’s it’s weird everyone’s acting like they’re better than the OGs

 

Clearly you have not been in the 1989TV thread over the past hours 

[Anvarie]

1 minute ago, PoisonedIvy said:

You don’t have to believe anything girl. These scores are just the opinions of individuals. Give it your own score and move on, it’s not this serious  

I did give my opinion, sorry that upset you 

[FolkLover1989]

4 minutes ago, qegqeg said:

It’s a great album of course but critics are so clearly terrified to say anything negative about any of the big pop girls 

Critics trashed SNTV

They could have done same to 1989TV 

[Disconnect]

50 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

Because a lot of these album are beloved in retrospect, especially Red and 1989

 

We are also in an era where almost everything is reviewed less harshly than it was years ago 

We also have to consider the new vault songs and production changes, plus Taylor's vocal improvement. Tbh 1989 TV's production is better overall with the exception of Style. 

 

Speak Now TV got really similar reviews to the OG because its quality it's just about the same.

 

Considering all those factors, I really don't think the new reviews are that biased. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by Disconnect

[Anvarie]

2 minutes ago, Klein said:

I "just" wanted to point that out, while having 13 posts in the thread be serious girl. 

I’m responding to quotes, individually, so I’m racking up posts. Do you not want to discuss Taylor Swift 

[Goaty]

 

Just now, Anvarie said:

Teenage Dream has good singles, same with 1989. Where are the good album tracks on 1989? I’d say I Know Places but Katy has Circle the Drain so they’re pretty even 

Retrospective reviews of a mainstream albums are usually higher anyway because the album’s influence has had time to develop. 

I understand your distaste with the difference in scores but it’s impossible to review 1989 TV without recognizing its legacy on mainstream pop culture. Hence a bump in point value. 
 

If Teenage Dream, Emotion, Melodrama, etc. all had newly released “artist versions” like what Taylor is doing their scores would be higher as well.

[Raspberries]

6 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

Teenage Dream has good singles, same with 1989. Where are the good album tracks on 1989? I’d say I Know Places but Katy has Circle the Drain so they’re pretty even 

Clean is quite literally better than any Katy Perry album cut ever. Circle the Drain is terribly written

[PoisonedIvy]

Just now, Anvarie said:

I did give my opinion, sorry that upset you 

It doesn’t upset me. You can think the rerecordings are worse than the originals, I’m not stopping you. I don’t even like the original 1989 much, it’s in the bottom 3 of Taylor’s discography for me. All I did was answer your question: the rerecordings are getting higher scores because her catalogue has held up well over time. This isn’t JUST because they receive higher scores, it’s because critics and listeners have continued to listen and reevaluate the albums years after their release, even before Taylor began this project. That’s the answer to your question. Whether you disagree with the scores themselves or not doesn’t matter because these scores are just a cumulative reflection of a dozen or so people’s opinions and you shouldn’t be so up in arms over what other people think. Hold on to your beliefs and block out what others believe. I don’t get upset if an album scores well on Metacritic and I don’t personally enjoy it — I just know my opinion and move on.

[Anvarie]

1 minute ago, AndThenTheCocaine said:

Clearly you have not been in the 1989TV thread over the past hours 

I don’t follow Taylor like that, I have seen lashings on Twitter, but I wanted to listen for myself and I’m not impressed. Wildest Dreams seemed fine, couldn’t notice anything off about it

 

So far 

-shake it off is fine

-new romantics horrible

-bad blood horrible 

[iam1925]

The meltdowns over the re-recording of a 9 year album  girl if you don't like the new versions then just listen to the OGs   I'm already loving these TVs 

Edited October 27, 2023 by iam1925
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[Goaty]

Not too much with the TD lashings  the album as a whole is a mixed bag but the highs are some of the best pop highs of the century and defined the 2010s pop landscape