base talk 1989 Taylor's Version review thread | MC: 95

[iam1925]

So good! I'm dancing all throughout 

[Redstreak]

29 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

Someone explain to me how she’s releasing the same albums and somehow magically getting 10-15 points higher than the original scores. It’s giving her new hype and not a reflection of the material 

Because the original scores should have been higher

[Anvarie]

8 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Because her albums have lasted the test of time. You guys don’t respect that people listen to her catalogue exponentially more than her peers but it’s a reflection of how much more timeless albums like Speak Now and Red are in comparison to albums like Femme Fatale, Bangerz, Artpop or Prism. The critic scores of the TVs are just reflections of the albums holding up so well even in their new replicated iterations. 

Stood the test of time? It’s her fanbase that always loved these albums continuing to love them. You’re acting like she released Thriller or something 

 

Also using Bangerz or Artpop as the standard?? The bar is in hell!

[Anvarie]

7 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

No, it's not. There are plenty of albums throughout history that get middling/good reception at first but go on to get huge retroactive acclaim. Some are even panned at first and end up acclaimed masterpieces 

 

1989 and Red got good reviews, pretty typical for good/decent pop albums back then. But those 2 are her most acclaimed and beloved albums of the stolen albums by far. As long as the re-recordings weren't absolutely butchered they were going to be massively acclaimed 

Their original scores reflect the quality of the music, these new rating reflect Taylor’s celebria 

[Finkypop]

Just now, Anvarie said:

Stood the test of time? It’s her fanbase that always loved these albums continuing to love them. You’re acting like she released Thriller or something 

 

Also using Bangerz or Artpop as the standard?? The bar is in hell!

Is this critical acclaim really bothering you that much? Go have a drink porky 

 

OT: Deserved. Every song except Style is a triumph over the original or just as good  

[thinking]

3 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

A signature I chose as 16 year old teenager 10 years ago and haven’t updated since then is not at all reflective of the music taste I have today, because I guarantee you Ariana and Rihanna are nowhere near my most played artists this decade 

 

 

Slay a bit

 

[Raspberries]

3 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

Stood the test of time? It’s her fanbase that always loved these albums continuing to love them. You’re acting like she released Thriller or something 

 

Also using Bangerz or Artpop as the standard?? The bar is in hell!

What are you talking about? Critics and industry people have massively acclaimed 1989 in the years since its release. That album has charted for 400+ weeks on the BB200. It's not just her fans. It is beloved by both her fans and the GP

[thinking]

8 minutes ago, RenHonjo said:

This must be one of the dumbest thing ever written. Congrats 

Ok? Now what?

[Dear Reader]

Just now, Raspberries said:

What are you talking about? Critics and industry people have massively acclaimed 1989 in the years since its release. That album has charted for 400+ weeks on the BB200. It's not just her fans. It is beloved by both her fans and the GP

This + are these even the same reviewers that reviewed the OG or just the same publications? 

[Anvarie]

2 minutes ago, Finkypop said:

Is this critical acclaim really bothering you that much? Go have a drink porky 

 

OT: Deserved. Every song except Style is a triumph over the original or just as good  

There’s no critical acclaim, these journalists just don’t want death threats from the swifities 

 

I like a few songs from 1989 but there’s nothing about the album that warrants a score in the 90s 

[Anvarie]

1 minute ago, Raspberries said:

What are you talking about? Critics and industry people have massively acclaimed 1989 in the years since its release. That album has charted for 400+ weeks on the BB200. It's not just her fans. It is beloved by both her fans and the GP

Why did the album get a score in the 70s if it was so great? The truth is it was a decent pop album, certainly no better than Teenage Dream yet you don’t see Katy Kats pretending like it rewrote pop history and is the best thing ever just because the singles were hits 

[Finkypop]

Just now, Anvarie said:

There’s no critical acclaim, these journalists just don’t want death threats from the swifities 

 

I like a few songs from 1989 but there’s nothing about the album that warrants a score in the 90s 

Become a critic and write your own review then? No1gaf about your analysis toots 

 

 

OT: A slay 

[PoisonedIvy]

7 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

Stood the test of time? It’s her fanbase that always loved these albums continuing to love them. You’re acting like she released Thriller or something 

 

Also using Bangerz or Artpop as the standard?? The bar is in hell!

Her fanbase is not the only group of people that likes these albums. She has some of the longest charting albums of all time, alongside things like The Dark Side of the Moon, 21, Thriller, The Bodyguard, etc. you don’t get that from just a strong fanbase but no support from general listeners. 

[Popboi.]

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

certainly no better than Teenage Dream

[Raspberries]

Just now, Anvarie said:

Why did the album get a score in the 70s if it was so great? The truth is it was a decent pop album, certainly no better than Teenage Dream yet you don’t see Katy Kats pretending like it rewrote pop history and is the best thing ever just because the singles were hits 

Because that was a period when pop albums didn't get scores in the 80s consistently like they do now  We are living in the era of poptimism, something 1989 itself helped usher in. You truly are clueless on this subject, aren't you?

 

Look no further than the example you gave. Teenage Dream was eviscerated by critics when it came out. Now, in retrospect in the era of poptimism, it is more appreciated critically (see: P4k's review)

[Peak Now]

not the arguments already starting on page 1 I can't

[Anvarie]

5 minutes ago, Finkypop said:

Become a critic and write your own review then? No1gaf about your analysis toots 

 

 

OT: A slay 

If I became a critic my opinion would suddenly hold more weight to you? Alright 

[Anvarie]

4 minutes ago, Popboi. said:

You think 1989 is a better album than Teenage Dream? Oh that’s not 

[unclefloprry]

Style (ruined version) should be enough for a 00/100 on metacritic.

[Finkypop]

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

 my opinion would suddenly hold more 

No it really wouldn’t trust me 

 

 

OT: TABS.

Edited October 27, 2023 by Finkypop

[Anvarie]

6 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

Because that was a period when pop albums didn't get scores in the 80s consistently like they do now  We are living in the era of poptimism, something 1989 itself helped usher in. You truly are clueless on this subject, aren't you?

 

Look no further than the example you gave. Teenage Dream was eviscerated by critics when it came out. Now, in retrospect in the era of poptimism, it is more appreciated critically (see: P4k's review)

Again, nothing about 1989’s new score is a reflection of the album’s quality it is 100% a result of her death grip on pop culture right now. Or will you hold the same opinion when critics give Reputation a score in the high 80s-90? 

Edited October 27, 2023 by Anvarie

[Klein]

3 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

You think 1989 is a better album than Teenage Dream? Oh that’s not 

Let's be serious for a *****ng second here. TD is cute, it full of hits but as a whole album it's not it. 

[Popboi.]

4 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

You think 1989 is a better album than Teenage Dream? Oh that’s not 

Who doesn't, that's the better question.

[Raspberries]

2 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

Again, nothing about 1989’s new score is a reflection of the album’s quality it is 100% a result of her death grip on pop culture right now. Or will you hold the same opinion when critics give Reputation a score in the high 80s-90? 

No, it isn't. 1989 TV's acclaim is reflective how beloved the original is on top of Taylor's current power and the quality of the new music

[Fitzswiftie]

37 minutes ago, Mr_campbell said:

vault songs sis 

90% of them stayed in the vault for a reason