poll Did Taylor and Gaga directly contribute to what happened to Katy?

[Mr. Stratus]

Do you believe things such as Kesha's support from Gaga as well as her rebrand in 2017, and Taylor dropping 1989 on Spotify impacted the fact Katy Perry is no longer any kind of name in pop?

 

Or, was it all just witness?

 

 

[differentkindahigh]

Don't doubt it, considering Gaga also had a direct contribution of what they did to Christina during Bionic

[cat1867]

Taylor dropping 1989 didn't hurt Katy in anyway. Witness still got its #1. It just gave Katy some free publicity that she failed to utilize since swish swish was an horrendous song. Barely anyone know about Katy Perry's involvement with Kesha. 

 

Katy never established a fanbase and so was dependent on hits for her career.  2017 was a down year for pop music in general but Witness's lackluster songs and horrendous promo doomed  it. If she had just flopped quietly and respectfully, she might have had a chance with her next album. But with Katy live streaming her therapy sessions, she doomed herself.

 

But Katy has a great back catalogue, a hot husband & cute baby , and making tons of money on American Idol.  Many pop girls wish they had such a perfect post flop life.

Edited October 24, 2023 by cat1867

[Punky Rooster]

Gaga no as she was over as a pop star well before Katy declined, but Taylor’s fans and their hate campaign definitely had a part in it.

[WitnessOblivia]

I don't think Gaga contributed to Katy's downfall at all. Taylor? I'm also leaning towards no.

Katy did everything in her power to end herself and she succeeded. 

[Smarticle]

Using that logic, Taylor did YNTCD with Katy so she should have repeaked

[Klein]

Taylor and Gaga are not responsible for Katy's inability to release good music post-2013. 

[Timeless]

No, Katy did it to herself by turning into an Ellen Degeneres lookalike and making a horrible mv for Swish Swish

Edited October 24, 2023 by Timeless

[Santhosh]

Lol no

 

It's katys fault for taking long break between prism and witness

[chosensparkles]

No, Katy just never had a real fanbase. She always relied on her looks and the hits Max and Dr Luke were crafting with her. When all that disappeared, the rest followed

[Solaria]

Taylor and Gaga are more talented than Katherina Perreira so they were bound to last longer

[adylovestaylorandjb]

Songs weren't good enough. It is always the rivals, promo etc. Never the fault of bad music for flopping. Also her appearance always played a big role. The blonde haircut was disaster as well

[AndThenTheCocaine]

A lot of y'all seem to have forgotten that the general public were largely on Katy's side throughout their feud, especially after Snakegate. And Bon Appetit came out when Taylor was MIA on social media.

 

I don't know why you're dragging Gaga into this either.

 

 

[Sailor Moon]

Katy literally did it to herself ...

[ScorpiosGroove]

some of you on here are either eternally stuck in 2013 or 2003 

[XxxKatyCatxxX]

The only reason is called Katheryn Elizabeth Hudson.

[Heartbreak Prince]

Katy had always relied on the public more than a fanbase to keep her afloat, and a big part of having the GP on her side was her pin up doll looks. Once she lost that after the haircut, it was over. She’s saw some forms of a comeback with Never Really Over which still managed quite a good streaming number, but now that she’s post-flop, she’s got a hot husband, a child, a healthy paycheck from American Idol and will always have some of the biggest pop hits radio has ever seen. She still kinda won in the end.

[queenoftheclouds]

Yes they Did Voodoo.

[PopKills]

According to Perez Hilton Gaga stopped a KatyXRedOne collab from happening but that source is not rlly reliable obviously.
 

No one „ended“ Katy but herself tbh and I say that as a fan.

[AxelFox]

Not at all. Contrarily to what this forum believes, there is room for everyone to be celebrated. 
 

Katy's demise was her own doing. 

[Kodak Energy]

No, Katy’s long break and weak music post break killed her career. 
 

A long break when you have a large music catalog like Rihanna or Beyonce is different to having 3 albums. It’d be like dua disappearing without a single on the radio for 2 years now. 
 

After her comeback she had some interest but she dropped weak music and never spammed hard enough on radio afterward to recapture the GP’s attention, the way Bieber did after changes.  

[KMO]

I’m hoping Witness is used as a case study for other labels and artists in how not to market and roll out an album. It was all Katy and Capitol’s doing, I’m afraid.

[Life Savers]

Katy ended Katy.

 

As others have said she’s getting a check and good loving from Orlando Bloom so she still won at the end of the day. 

[R.E.M.]

55 minutes ago, Klein said:

Taylor and Gaga are not responsible for Katy's inability to release good music post-2013. 

This. If she hadn't destroyed her brand with a pixie cut & the music had been, at the very least, on par with TD/PRISM in terms of quality she would've had a moderately successful era. If anything, Katy would have been benefited from going against Taylor in 2017 since the hate train was in full force in the lead-up to Reputation that same year.

 

I don't think Gaga had any impact in it either since people who typically consume her music hate Katy/Katycats regardless 

[DockDock]

no. it was ageism, and no evolution as an artist....the generarion that did stan her, left her already they grew, her music for them was not relatable at all....now gen z thinks katy is cringe, since the migos performance, her latests songs, swish swish music video etc...gen z now care for Billie, Olivia, Doja, Megan , Taylor...