ImsoLOUD Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, FENTY. said: So it took Taylor 10 albums and like what three re-recordings to catch up with Rihanna’s tour gross in Europe? Good to know Swifties should be grateful that the other MPG's went off and started their own families but instead they are mouthier than ever 1 1
Mr. Mendes Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, wastedpotential said: Have y'all forgotten the last time she played stadiums? Here’s the thing, and I’m not a Rihanna fan mind you: it is widely accepted that this show had a heavy scalping problem. It wasn’t sold out, no, but on the record more tickets got sold than there were people in attendance and it’s because of scalping. Beyonce and Taylor also had many empty seats at their Wembley shows at this time because of scalping despite both shows being sold out from a first point of sale standpoint. Again, Rihanna wasn’t sold out on it’s own, but it wasn’t this empty because no one wanted to go, it’s that a lot of people who would’ve gone got knocked out by the scalpers and refused to pay the marked up tickets. She sold out a London stadium gig effortlessly the tour before so clearly she has the fanbase there to do it. 1 1
Axelios Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, ImsoLOUD said: Swifties should be grateful that the other MPG's went off and started their own families but instead they are mouthier than ever Rihanna was never bigger ever since 2009. In fact Rihanna peaked in 2007 and never managed to replicate the success she had with GGGB even while spamming singles. 2 2
WildHeart Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, lonnie said: At least we can say Rih never struggled with selling out a mere 5,000 date. Like damn not even 4,000 people in all of Italy wanted to show up for Taylor then? Some would say that a global popstar who was 8 albums in struggling to sell out 10k arenas is much worse but maybe that's just me Edited October 23, 2023 by Artistofthedecade 4
FENTY. Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Axelios said: Rihanna was never bigger ever since 2009. In fact Rihanna peaked in 2007 and never managed to replicate the success she had with GGGB even while spamming singles. What is this honey
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Artistofthedecade said: Some would say that a global popstar who was 8 albums in struggling to sell out 10k arenas was much worse but maybe that's just me Rihanna never struggled with any 10K date during the AWT, another false number given by you in this thread. Twice now lol and as far as I know Wembley doesn't just sit 10,000 people. You'll have to find another lie I fear 2
ImsoLOUD Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Axelios said: Rihanna was never bigger ever since 2009. In fact Rihanna peaked in 2007 and never managed to replicate the success she had with GGGB even while spamming singles. I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of Rihanna's 14 #1's playing in the background that have yet to be topped despite the master-less McDonald's of Music's yearly spam attacks 1 1 1
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Wembley apparently being a 10K capacity date and now Rihanna apparently never finding success since 2009. What next swifties? 1
Axelios Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, lonnie said: Rihanna never struggled with any 10K date during the AWT, another false number given by you in this thread. Twice now lol and as far as I know Wembley doesn't just sit 10,000 people. You'll have to find another lie I fear She did. In fact most of her US arenas weren't sold out and they were 10k venues.
Devin Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Those 2 Swifties getting tossed around in here. The insecurity and ongoing need to express Taylor is above everyone – then cry when we don’t praise her accomplishments. 2 1
WildHeart Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, lonnie said: Rihanna never struggled with any 10K date during the AWT, another false number given by you in this thread. Twice now lol and as far as I know Wembley doesn't just sit 10,000 people. You'll have to find another lie I fear And what exactly was the first false number you claim of 1
Axelios Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ImsoLOUD said: I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of Rihanna's 14 #1's playing in the background that have yet to be topped despite the master-less McDonald's of Music's yearly spam attacks So many #1s and yet none of her albums sold as much as Fearless or 1989 with most of them having less than half their sales Edited October 23, 2023 by Axelios 1
airplane Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Axelios said: Rihanna was never bigger ever since 2009. In fact Rihanna peaked in 2007 and never managed to replicate the success she had with GGGB even while spamming singles. ANTI was literally obliterating Lover and Reputation last decade while Taylor was struggling to score a hit or keep her album stable on Spotify 1
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Axelios said: She did. In fact most of her US arenas weren't sold out and they were 10k venues. Rihanna had over 10K people in at least each of her dates. Some hundreds of seats might still have been available, but that's nowhere near not even pulling 4K with only just one date in an entire country
Axelios Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, airplane said: ANTI was literally obliterating Lover and Reputation last decade while Taylor was struggling to score a hit or keep her album stable on Spotify Anti didn't sell as much as either Lover or Reputation. And 1989 obliterates it like it obliterates all of Rihanna discography 1 1
Planet Mars Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Very easily, post COVID I think it's much easier, plus Rihanna is an artist everyone is thirsty for now. If she drops an album she could easily go on a successful stadium tour. 1
Feanor Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, lonnie said: No, what the swifties did is what they always do since they literally ITCH for a fight and clearly have nothing better to do. No one had brought up Taylor negatively before y'all started throwing digs. Again literally no one but y'all care about a stupid Wembley date from seven years ago. The whole point of this thread is to try and assess whether Rih could pull off a full stadium tour post-2023 given how much touring has grown/her anticipated comeback is. It's perfectly okay to disagree, but y'all aren't going to act like some victims when people react in the same vein y'all do. What digs? All I see here is people pointing how Rihanna struggled to sell out her recent tour with photographic evidence to back up their claims. People shared their opinions and brought up receipts to support their claims. That is exactly what you describe as "perfectly disagreeing". And no one here is acting a victim? I'm confused. People shared their opinions, others disagreed, then there was a response and a response back… and here we are. This is how ATRL has always worked. No one is victimizing and no one is claiming to be victimized. 1 1
burninredhot Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Devin said: The P!nk sneak and not including Gaga. OT: She can do 25-30 stadiums in target regions. P!nk is undeniably a bigger touring force
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: And what exactly was the first false number you claim of I see all those dates with over 10K sold ArtistoftheDecade, I think you might need some glasses Those dates aren't anywhere like this: March 6 Brussels Belgium Forest National Tom Dice 4,622 / 4,622 $219,212 March 7 Rotterdam Netherlands Sportpaleis van Ahoy 4,799 / 4,799 $248,314 March 9 Oslo Norway Oslo Spektrum — 8,650 / 8,650 $815,246 March 12 Oberhausen Germany König Pilsener Arena Martin & James 6,082 / 6,082 $370,028 March 15 Milan Italy Mediolanum Forum Emma Marrone 3,421 / 5,585 $153,303 March 17 Paris France Zénith de Paris — 3,598 / 8,500 $201,781 March 19 Madrid Spain Palacio de los Deportes The Bright 3,962 / 3,962 $251,864 March 22 Birmingham England LG Arena Martin & James 9,339 / 9,339 $508,854 March 25 Belfast Northern Ireland Odyssey Arena Ryan Sheridan 8,058 / 8,058 $379,001 March 27 Dublin Ireland The O2 8,681 / 8,681 $419,806 March 29 Manchester England Manchester Evening News Arena Martin & James 10,488 / 11,622 $580,558 March 30 London The O2 Arena 15,265 / 15,681 $891,152 That lady was playing in Paris with a population of over 2 million and not even half of the 8K capacity date came. Like please let's be realistic here
nadiamendell Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 No. Her record as a touring artist is not good and she'd rather make money as an Avon lady.
slw84 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Stadiums in select places (Europe) yes Stadium tour - maybe if the marketing lends itself to suggest this. isher final tour.
lonnie Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Feanor said: What digs? All I see here is people pointing how Rihanna struggled to sell out her recent tour with photographic evidence to back up their claims. People shared their opinions and brought up receipts to support their claims. That is exactly what you describe as "perfectly disagreeing". And no one here is acting a victim? I'm confused. People shared their opinions, others disagreed, then there was a response and a response back… and here we are. This is how ATRL has always worked. No one is victimizing and no one is claiming to be victimized. And the navy is doing just that in turn too? So what's the problem Feanor? If the navy weren't supposed to be offended by the "photographic" evidence from years ago, why are the swifties upset that we're doing the same thing?
ImsoLOUD Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 and EYE-NO-EYE don't see a Mariah avi in here talking crazy when she has always been a non-factor touring wise 1
Devin Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, lonnie said: I see all those dates with over 10K sold ArtistoftheDecade, I think you might need some glasses Those dates aren't anywhere like this: March 6 Brussels Belgium Forest National Tom Dice 4,622 / 4,622 $219,212 March 7 Rotterdam Netherlands Sportpaleis van Ahoy 4,799 / 4,799 $248,314 March 9 Oslo Norway Oslo Spektrum — 8,650 / 8,650 $815,246 March 12 Oberhausen Germany König Pilsener Arena Martin & James 6,082 / 6,082 $370,028 March 15 Milan Italy Mediolanum Forum Emma Marrone 3,421 / 5,585 $153,303 March 17 Paris France Zénith de Paris — 3,598 / 8,500 $201,781 March 19 Madrid Spain Palacio de los Deportes The Bright 3,962 / 3,962 $251,864 March 22 Birmingham England LG Arena Martin & James 9,339 / 9,339 $508,854 March 25 Belfast Northern Ireland Odyssey Arena Ryan Sheridan 8,058 / 8,058 $379,001 March 27 Dublin Ireland The O2 8,681 / 8,681 $419,806 March 29 Manchester England Manchester Evening News Arena Martin & James 10,488 / 11,622 $580,558 March 30 London The O2 Arena 15,265 / 15,681 $891,152 That lady was playing in Paris with a population of over 2 million and not even half of the 8K capacity date came. Like please let's be realistic here Not Taylor having 3-5k crowds in 20-22k venues. I see why they fuming now. 1
WildHeart Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, lonnie said: I see all those dates with over 10K sold ArtistoftheDecade, I think you might need some glasses Those dates aren't anywhere like this: March 6 Brussels Belgium Forest National Tom Dice 4,622 / 4,622 $219,212 March 7 Rotterdam Netherlands Sportpaleis van Ahoy 4,799 / 4,799 $248,314 March 9 Oslo Norway Oslo Spektrum — 8,650 / 8,650 $815,246 March 12 Oberhausen Germany König Pilsener Arena Martin & James 6,082 / 6,082 $370,028 March 15 Milan Italy Mediolanum Forum Emma Marrone 3,421 / 5,585 $153,303 March 17 Paris France Zénith de Paris — 3,598 / 8,500 $201,781 March 19 Madrid Spain Palacio de los Deportes The Bright 3,962 / 3,962 $251,864 March 22 Birmingham England LG Arena Martin & James 9,339 / 9,339 $508,854 March 25 Belfast Northern Ireland Odyssey Arena Ryan Sheridan 8,058 / 8,058 $379,001 March 27 Dublin Ireland The O2 8,681 / 8,681 $419,806 March 29 Manchester England Manchester Evening News Arena Martin & James 10,488 / 11,622 $580,558 March 30 London The O2 Arena 15,265 / 15,681 $891,152 That lady was playing in Paris with a population of over 2 million and not even half of the 8K capacity date came. Like please let's be realistic here Thankfully she was only 3 albums in, recovered and sold 160k tickets in the same city this year. Why didn't Rihanna's touring power got bigger in the same way that she could sell 15k arenas with her 8 albums catalogue during her last tour? 1 1
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