poll Taylor or Mariah?

[DTF]

Both legendary singer songwriters have surpassed the historic 10 album mark. Whose 10 album run do you prefer for commercial reasons and why?

 

Taylor Swift or Mariah Carey

Fearless or Emotions

Speak Now or Music Box

Red or Merry Christmas

1989 or Daydream

Reputation or Butterfly

Lover or Rainbow

Folklore or Glitter

Evermore or Charmbracelet

Midnights or The Emancipation of Mimi

[iamanearthling]

Taylor quite easily.

[suburbannature]

Mariah quite easily.

[shoganai]

Both icons of their times and both queens

[suburbannature]

Taylor Swift or Mariah Carey

Fearless or Emotions

Speak Now or Music Box

Red or Merry Christmas

1989 or Daydream

Reputation or Butterfly

Lover or Rainbow

Folklore or Glitter

Evermore or Charmbracelet

Midnights or The Emancipation of Mimi

 

Taylor is a cute songwriter, but she's not Mariah level 

[Treason]

[suburbannature]

The way everyone provokes Mariah or Taylor fans when they want a hit thread

 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

Taylor Swift or Mariah Carey

Fearless or Emotions

Speak Now or Music Box

Red or Merry Christmas (this is literally a christmas album, not a "actual" studio lp)

1989 or Daydream

Reputation or Butterfly

Lover or Rainbow

Folklore or Glitter

Evermore or Charmbracelet

Midnights or The Emancipation of Mimi

 

mariah takes it pretty easily.

especially that run from daydream, butterfly and rainbow tie the knot. glitter and charmbracelet vs folkevermore moo-moo doesnt stand a chance sadly 

[réveuse]

How about Taylor AND Mariah?

[kexin]

Rainbow washes anything Pisslor released. 

[magazine]

taylor 100%

[Scott Borchetta]

The one that doesn't have the worst-reviewed album by an MPG below the likes of Katy Perry and JLo. 

[Rocket]

1 minute ago, kexin said:

Rainbow washes anything Pisslor released. 

Of all albums, not you picking Raincloud.

[Cruel Summer]

Prefer Taylor, love Mariah, they’re the top two biggest women in American chart history for a reason so let’s celebrate both 

[kexin]

1 minute ago, Rocket said:

Of all albums, not you picking Raincloud.

 

 

[Miss Show Business]

Mariah, sweetie...

 

Mariah is the better writer and vocalist and it's not even close.

[Sheep]

Mariah is both a better singer and writer. She also has a WAY stronger run of singles than Taylor. What Taylor does is special too but Mariah is head and shoulders above basically every other female artist in the talent department.

[suburbannature]

Just now, Scott Borchetta said:

The one that doesn't have the worst-reviewed album by an MPG below the likes of Katy Perry and JLo. 

Metacritic started in the 2000s and you cannot compare albums released in that era to poptimism of today - let alone the album that followed the Glitter era when Mariah's mental health crisis and movie bombing were mainstream news for an entire summer. 

 

Lastly, they didn't just ask you about Charmbracelet. They asked about nine other albums.

 

Also, welcome back. Interesting time to reappear

[allforyou]

Taylor Swift or Mariah Carey

Fearless or Emotions (it's a tie for me)

Speak Now or Music Box

Red or Merry Christmas

1989 or Daydream

Reputation or Butterfly

Lover or Rainbow

Folklore or Glitter

Evermore or Charmbracelet

Midnights or The Emancipation of Mimi

 

I like Taylor but Mariah is THE Queen

[Dear Reader]

Mariah is a legend, but I connect to Taylor’s music more. 

[Lightbringer007]

Mariah easily, but also love Taylor

[Schami66]

Both 

[Scott Borchetta]

11 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

Metacritic started in the 2000s and you cannot compare albums released in that era to poptimism of today - let alone the album that followed the Glitter era when Mariah's mental health crisis and movie bombing were mainstream news for an entire summer. 

 

Lastly, they didn't just ask you about Charmbracelet. They asked about nine other albums.

Not this convenient excuse when other MPGs with worse narratives were adored by critics when they actually released a decent album in those days. How do you get worse reviews than JLo who is widely believed to be making the most bottom-of-the-barrel trash music?

 

Anyways, the actual reviews in question:

 

APPARENTLY, THE BEST thing Mariah Carey can do to put her career back on track is to cover Def Leppard. The catchiest cut on Carey's eighth album, Charmbracelet, is a fascinatingly overblown orchestral remake of "Bringin' on the Heartbreak." The rest of the album is strangely muddy: On songs such as "Yours," Carey's lead vocals blend into choruses of overdubbed Mariahs cooing overlapping phrases. Circling these are choirs of more Mariahs singing harmonies and countermelodies. Topping it off are generous sprinklings of the singer's patented birdcalls (on "You Had Your Chance"), wails, sighs and whispers. The mostly skeletal musical instrumentation is insignificant: Charmbracelet is nearly wall-to-wall Mariah. Tempos plod, and hooks are few. Carey needs bold songs that help her use the power and range for which she is famous. Charmbracelet is like a stream of watercolors that bleed into a puddle of brown.

- RollingStone

 

Who needs anti-depressants when you have Jesus and schmaltz? - NME

 

Her voice is damaged, and there's not a moment where it sounds strong or inviting. That alone would be disturbing, but since the songs are formless and the production bland -- another reason why the hip-hop announces itself, even though it's nowhere near as pronounced as it has been since Butterfly -- her tired voice becomes the only thing to concentrate on, and it's a sad, ugly thing, making an album that would merely have been her worst into something tragic. - Q Online

 

A plodding collection of ballads carefully designed to show-off her jaw-dropping vocal range to the fullest.

 

 

She has a fine technical voice but the emotional resonance of a car park.  - Q magazine

 

And you can't even pull the retrospective acclaim card with this one since it is filled with awful sappy dated vocal-heavy 90s songs that everyone is glad we left in the 90s.

[suburbannature]

Just now, Scott Borchetta said:

Not this convenient excuse when other MPGs with worse narratives were adored by critics when they actually released a decent album in those days. How do you get worse reviews than JLo who is widely believed to be making the most bottom-of-the-barrel trash music?

 

Anyways, the actual reviews in question:

 

APPARENTLY, THE BEST thing Mariah Carey can do to put her career back on track is to cover Def Leppard. The catchiest cut on Carey's eighth album, Charmbracelet, is a fascinatingly overblown orchestral remake of "Bringin' on the Heartbreak." The rest of the album is strangely muddy: On songs such as "Yours," Carey's lead vocals blend into choruses of overdubbed Mariahs cooing overlapping phrases. Circling these are choirs of more Mariahs singing harmonies and countermelodies. Topping it off are generous sprinklings of the singer's patented birdcalls (on "You Had Your Chance"), wails, sighs and whispers. The mostly skeletal musical instrumentation is insignificant: Charmbracelet is nearly wall-to-wall Mariah. Tempos plod, and hooks are few. Carey needs bold songs that help her use the power and range for which she is famous. Charmbracelet is like a stream of watercolors that bleed into a puddle of brown.

- RollingStone

 

Who needs anti-depressants when you have Jesus and schmaltz? - NME

 

Her voice is damaged, and there's not a moment where it sounds strong or inviting. That alone would be disturbing, but since the songs are formless and the production bland -- another reason why the hip-hop announces itself, even though it's nowhere near as pronounced as it has been since Butterfly -- her tired voice becomes the only thing to concentrate on, and it's a sad, ugly thing, making an album that would merely have been her worst into something tragic. - Q Online

 

A plodding collection of ballads carefully designed to show-off her jaw-dropping vocal range to the fullest.

 

 

She has a fine technical voice but the emotional resonance of a car park.  - Q magazine

 

And you can't even pull the retrospective acclaim card with this one since it is filled with awful sappy dated vocal-heavy 90s songs that everyone is glad we left in the 90s.

Most of the reviews had mental health drags, mentioned her voice being gone (which wasn't even true since many of the songs feature strong vocals and they backtracked on for TEOM), and focused more on personal attacks than the music. Which is why you had to only take excerpts of two reviews. To deny that the misogyny in those reviews is quite delusional but I'm aware you're not here for facts.

 

And you weren't even correct about it being the lowest rated by a popular female. Alanis Morisette, Liz Phair, Enya among other female artists all had lower. And AGAIN, you cannot compare reviews in 2002 to the softball critics play with female artists today. 

 

But again, singling out a single album has nothing to do with the question in the OP. Would you think it's a fair assessment to judge ten of Taylor's albums by her debut or Lover? You thought you had a cute shady moment but it didn't work. Try to be more conspicuous next time btw.

[pisuke]

Mariah >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>