Cloröx Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, Aurora said: Also I can't tell if people are trolling about the streaming numbers or if they're genuinely confused. Katy's a YouTube force and always has been since Firework, but YouTube doesn't count for these stats unfortunately. She's never been very big on Spotify and hasn't had a proper hit in the Spotify era. CTTR did decently but that was 4 months ago. Rise, BA and SS all stalled under 60M. Still not an excuse considering she has Spotify deal
pabloanxiety Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 29 minutes ago, Aurora said: well obviously because you're comparing sales of albums that have been out for a decade to Witness' first week it will obviously sell more than 500k in the long run. The efforts. Also i can't at people acting like US = the world. Witness album will surpass Joanne and Glory in streams effortlessly, Chained To The Rhythm alone has more streams than Perfect Illusion and MR combined.
Mons†erMuscle™ Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 31 minutes ago, h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e said: Looking at this thread you'd think any ol somebody could pull 187k in this day and age I hate atrl That's not the point.
Aurora Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 13 minutes ago, Coklek92 said: Still not an excuse considering she has Spotify deal can you outline what benefits she has from this deal, please? Do you expect Spotify to fabricate streams for her? She hasn't had any additional coverage than any other new release would get.
Cloröx Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Aurora said: can you outline what benefits she has from this deal, please? Do you expect Spotify to fabricate streams for her? She hasn't had any additional coverage than any other new release would get. You said that because Katy failed to take that advantages. Don't make me digging that Katy's Spotify deal thread
brianc33710 Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 34 minutes ago, jambloo said: The SPS equivalent to one sale. 150 streams=1 sale. No, that's the ratio for single certifications. For albums, 1,500 streams = one sale. Regardless, I'm happy for Katy's numbers. Remember how much the market has declined since PRISM. Katy Perry has typically scored underwhelming opening week numbers, but then her albums hang around for 2+ years.
aaronsmithjune1 Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 I'm sure I'm not the first to ask this , but as everyone can see it's 88 pages in here. How much did she sell without tickets bundle?
jambloo Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, brianc33616 said: No, that's the ratio for single certifications. For albums, 1,500 streams = one sale. Regardless, I'm happy for Katy's numbers. Remember how much the market has declined since PRISM. Katy Perry has typically scored underwhelming opening week numbers, but then her albums hang around for 2+ years. Teenage Dream opened with only 192k in a much stronger sales climate, a #1 single and a top-ten single. Her and Rihanna are very similar in the sense that they open with okay first week numbers and sell consistently and do well in the end.
Archetype Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 34 minutes ago, jambloo said: Teenage Dream opened with only 192k in a much stronger sales climate, a #1 single and a top-ten single. Her and Rihanna are very similar in the sense that they open with okay first week numbers and sell consistently and do well in the end. Yes, but that was with multiple number one singles, and Part of Me really extended the era into oblivion. Katy's already pushed three singles out, and Swish Swish is obviously not performing well enough to keep people checking. The album itself was critically panned, and she currently has a negatively skewed perception in the media. How many other singles can she release to keep it alive, anyway?
simmnfierzig Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Aurora said: so the album was streamed 2,550,000 times in the US. Considering Witness (song) got that alone, it must be doing much better WW. Nah 1500 not 150 But also 3-4k from the 17k are from track sales. So something in the 20M US streams range. And Youtube doesnt count here.
DoubleK Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 these are amazing numbers and dont lie! we all were guessing 50k maybe 80k literally NO ONE expected these number so congrats to her WITNESS is not a complete bomb
MusicBiz234 Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, DoubleK said: these are amazing numbers and dont lie! we all were guessing 50k maybe 80k literally NO ONE expected these number so congrats to her WITNESS is not a complete bomb Yes it is. Without Tour Bundle, the numbers would be tragic. Good for her team though.
bleed dior Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Not gonna lie, I expected 250k with her tour bundle.
PrismaticFluff Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, Khal said: The first few pages are sad & hilarious in retrospect the last few even more, the influx of monsters and okhs is hilarious af
Mariano Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, NEZ said: Basically arguing over who flopped less. i love how y'all keep saying this when Gaga's been outdoing Katy 2:1 this era not Gaga flopping with Joanne even tho it's country and had 2 singles yet still sold 1.2M WW opened with 200k in the USA when the lead single hadn't even been performed anywhere, the only promo Gaga did in the US was in the album's first week and that was just SNL and Carpool And then whatever she did after that. If Gaga had a bundle, she'd sell 300k+ something Katy and Rihanna have never done, so idk what you're trying Katy had 3 award shows for her lead single alone. Edited June 17, 2017 by Mariano
J a y Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Katy's Spotify deal was a few billboards to my knowledge, so that's further confirmation that playola doesn't exist in the capacity that atrl thinks. You can't force people to press play and listen to at least 30 seconds of the song. 10 seconds and then skip? Doesn't count! Also, those that have bought tickets to the tour can redeem the album at any time and it'll count towards the charts. These are good numbers considering the era stalled a bit. Katy's cool. I'm so done disliking her, in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet.
pabloanxiety Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Just now, J a y said: Katy's Spotify deal was a few billboards to my knowledge, so that's further confirmation that playola doesn't exist in the capacity that atrl thinks. You can't force people to press play and listen to at least 30 seconds of the song. 10 seconds and then skip? Doesn't count! Also, those that have bought tickets to the tour can redeem the album at any time and it'll count towards the charts. These are good numbers considering the era stalled a bit. Katy's cool. I'm so done disliking her, in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet. Props for not being basic and and repeating the same basic 'drags' we are used to lately. There's no need to repeat 'ticket bundle' or 'payola' every 5 seconds. We get it. I think she knows it and she's just enjoying the moment and doing what she feels. If she is wrong she will fix it in the future. Fans are getting a new album after 4 years and #1 album, plus a top 5 hit. Other artists work hard their entire lives for this kind of success.
Lvl8Treeko Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Coklek92 said: You said that because Katy failed to take that advantages. Don't make me digging that Katy's Spotify deal thread You're so desperately without a life posting multiple times on each page in every Katy thread lol go get some dick gurl
pabloanxiety Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Lvl8Treeko said: You're so desperately without a life posting multiple times on each page in every Katy thread lol go get some dick gurl
Cloröx Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Lvl8Treeko said: You're so desperately without a life posting multiple times on each page in every Katy thread lol go get some dick gurl Did I make you pressed?
Ghost Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 The numbers are not bad at all considering that she basically had no support from radio and the media this era. The streams are bad though, I thought she would do more there. But who cares
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