poll Invasion of Privacy vs Pink Friday; bigger era?

[Aethereal]

I think IOP did more in US while Pink Friday did more internationally. 

For US, I don't have data to back this up but Pink Friday must be below 4.5M (I would guess 4.2M) units in America while IOP should be over 5M as of late 2022. 

 

That is not taking in account international sales. 

 

As for my opinion I think it is a very close shot WW so I am undecided.

Edited October 7, 2023 by Aristotle

[mellenthin]

IoP. Cardi was huge for a quick second there. 

 

Sad she didn't stick!

[Anvarie]

Pink Friday is bigger, more iconic, and memorable

 

Cardi is already forgotten low key 

[SmittenCake]

1 minute ago, Anvarie said:

Pink Friday is bigger, more iconic, and memorable

 

Cardi is already forgotten low key 

 

1 minute ago, mellenthin said:

IoP. Cardi was huge for a quick second there. 

 

Sad she didn't stick!

[Blackout2006]

Obviously Pink Friday, especially since it is still talked about to this day. 

[Aethereal]

2 minutes ago, mellenthin said:

IoP. Cardi was huge for a quick second there. 

 

Sad she didn't stick!

I recall ANTI did not start well but once the album dropped it became her second biggest era in America. But yeah I am not feeling Cardi either. 

[Odette Violet]

PF for Super Bass alone for me. The song was literally like everywhere 

 

Miss Onika Maraj did that

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by Odette Violet

[Sheep]

If we start including guest verses on other projects and general popularity PF era is in a completely different league and it's an unfair comparison.

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by Century

[cousin_skeeter]

375k & 2x platinum in pure sales>>>>
 

Nicki did in the tail end of the sales era what most female rappers couldn’t do at a time when rap sales were at their peak. 

[Cain]

Album wise it’s obviously IOP like  there’s no competition there

 

Era wise I think it’s PF, like on top of the album she had Monster at the time, was suddenly everywhere and on everyone’s songs, she had European hits with David, etc

[GoodGuyGoneGhetto]

9 minutes ago, Aristotle said:

I recall ANTI did not start well but once the album dropped it became her second biggest era in America. But yeah I am not feeling Cardi either. 

ANTI isn’t Rihanna’s second biggest era in the U.S. 

[Aethereal]

3 minutes ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said:

ANTI isn’t Rihanna’s second biggest era in the U.S. 

I think it is. I doubt Loud did more than 6M units in US. But it wont be far away either way. 

Edited October 7, 2023 by Aristotle

[GoodGuyGoneGhetto]

IOP.
 

• Bigger Singles

 

• Bigger Album Units

 

• Bigger Streams

 

• More Acclaimed

 

• More Awards Won, including a GRAMMY. 

 

That’s a mere fact and you’re lying if you say otherwise. 
 

That said…

 

”Super Bass” is arguably more famous than any IOP single but it had an 8 year head start. 
 

 

[Relampago.]

IOP probably wins in numbers but PF is just way more remembered and impactful despite being well over a decade old

[suburbannature]

Anyone saying Pink Friday is lying to themselves.

 

Cardi ended almost all of Nicki's records with a single era.

[HEAVYONIT]

IOP was, but to everyone being shady in here…it’s not a race, it’s a marathon 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

Invasion Of Privacy was probably the bigger album with measurable success but let's be real:

 

Nicki's success only continued to grow GLOBALLY after Pink Friday while Cardi B's success started to decrease more and more to the point she has become basically a non-factor only like 4 years after her debut. Bongos, her streak of flops and her INABILITY to release a sophomore album only proof this!

 

Pink Friday also still holds the record for second highest female rap debut ever (only behind Lauryn Hill), the album has a Diamond single and is eligible for 5x Platinum in the USA.  Pink Friday was still a huge commercial success.

 

[Aethereal]

1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Invasion Of Privacy was probably the bigger album with measurable success but let's be real:

 

Nicki's success only continued to grow GLOBALLY after Pink Friday while Cardi B's success started to decrease more and more to the point she has become basically a non-factor only like 4 years after her debut. Bongos, her streak of flops and her INABILITY to release a sophomore album only proof this!

 

Pink Friday also still holds the record for second highest female rap debut ever (only behind Lauryn Hill), the album has a Diamond single and is eligible for 5x Platinum in the USA.  Pink Friday was still a huge commercial success.

 

Yeah Nicki Minaj had overall a bigger 4 year prime because she had two successful album while Cardi had only one. We'll see how Cardi next album will do, Cardi has yet to bring the big guns. Her late performance, as mentioned, has been alarming though.

 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

Cardi B is deep fried. Bongos being a flop is the proof in the pudding. If a GLORILLA feature is the biggest thing you put out in the last three years, something is going very wrong!

[GreatestLoveofAll]

well im undecided too. Cardi has no steam now clearly but in that era she was everything she needed to be and more. in terms of numbers i think IOP has the upper hand tbh but PF was by far more iconic.

[Stepfon]

30 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Cardi B is deep fried. Bongos being a flop is the proof in the pudding. If a GLORILLA feature is the biggest thing you put out in the last three years, something is going very wrong!

In the last three years she has had WAP and UP, so...

[Jamie Starr]

I never followed either of them like that tbh

IOP probably has the numbers but I remember Pink Friday being massive and inescapable at the time

[abelfenty]

1 hour ago, Blackout2006 said:

Obviously Pink Friday, especially since it is still talked about to this day. 

By whom? The Barbz?

[KOMH]

1 hour ago, Aristotle said:

I think IOP did more in US while Pink Friday did more internationally. 

 

Pink Friday bombed internationally. It only managed to amass a measly 3 certifications after 14 years and its chart positions & WOC outside the US are absolutely tragic for being a supposedly big album 

 

Certifications and sales for Pink Friday

Region	Certification	Certified units/sales
Australia (ARIA)[131]	Platinum	70,000^
United Kingdom (BPI)[132]	Platinum	282,000[89]
United States (RIAA)[133]	3× Platinum	3,000,000‡
^ Shipments figures based on certification alone. ‡ Sales+streaming figures based on certification alone.

 

Weekly charts for Pink Friday 

Chart (2010–2012)	Peak position
Australian Albums (ARIA)[107]	19
Australian Urban Albums (ARIA)[108]	5
Belgian Albums (Ultratop Flanders)[109]	81
Belgian Albums (Ultratop Wallonia)[110]	100
Canadian Albums (Billboard)[111]	8
French Albums (SNEP)[112]	116
Irish Albums (IRMA)[113]	17
South Korean Albums (Gaon)[114]	110
New Zealand Albums (RMNZ)[115]	15
Scottish Albums (OCC)[116]	22
Spanish Albums (PROMUSICAE)[117]	94
UK Albums (OCC)[118]	16
UK R&B Albums (OCC)[119]	4
US Billboard 200[120]	1
US Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums (Billboard)[121]	1

 

 

IOP is bigger in every way possible

[Big Bad Wolf]

IOP. Belcallis was everywhere, and Bodak, Cartier, and I Like It felt like MASSIVE smashes.  She revitalized female rap. Tanked Onika.