TomTom Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, Espresso said: Jordan’s the obvious chaos agent so they didn’t really have a choice on picking Scalise, but the only way he’s getting 217 is big donor donations to the Chaos 8 or primary threats, directly. Non-American here, but it seems very unlikely to me (maybe I'm missing something) for Scalise to get 217 votes if he narrowly won the nomination with a margin of 113 : 99. That's a massive gap, where are all those votes suddenly supposed to come from (considering that the Jordan supporters do not seem like party loyalists)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, TomTom said: Non-American here, but it seems very unlikely to me (maybe I'm missing something) for Scalise to get 217 votes if he narrowly won the nomination with a margin of 113 : 99. That's a massive gap, where are all those votes suddenly supposed to come from (considering that the Jordan supporters do not seem like party loyalists)? All great points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 This process is so ****ed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) I get that they pick and choose where to direct their shame, but I really wonder if OSU is what ultimately did Gym Jordan in @Sergi91 Edited October 11, 2023 by Espresso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Sidebar: Kevin’s flip-flopping was so tired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vermillion Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 HA @Sergi91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Scalise has dropped out @Sergi91 Jordan’s not getting it either so now what 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TomTom Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Espresso said: Jordan’s not getting it either so now what What a MESS…this is crazy even for American political standards . The way there‘s just no plan whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, TomTom said: What a MESS…this is crazy even for American political standards . The way there‘s just no plan whatsoever The Gaetz 8 is NOT budging for an Emmer or anyone like him. They literally won their primaries solely on being farther right than anyone in the conference - they have nothing to lose by continuing to obstruct. If they hadn’t passed the extension just prior we’d be worse off but this is still bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergi91 Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 How can the majority leader not be the Speaker?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamianSolo Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Espresso said: He's one of the last people that needed to be in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Espresso said: The Gaetz 8 is NOT budging for an Emmer or anyone like him. They literally won their primaries solely on being farther right than anyone in the conference - they have nothing to lose by continuing to obstruct. If they hadn’t passed the extension just prior we’d be worse off but this is still bad. Hakeem Jeffries for Speaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, TomTom said: Hakeem Jeffries for Speaker? Grotesquely, I don’t think it was the resurfaced David Duke comments, or even his cancer treatment, but Trump’s comments about his cancer treatment that ultimately did him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameFatale Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 One big mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, Espresso said: Scalise has dropped out @Sergi91 Jordan’s not getting it either so now what I think “moderates” will cave and vote Jordan eventually. Even though it would kill many of their careers 18 minutes ago, DamianSolo said: He's one of the last people that needed to be in that position. Compared to Jim Jordan……it’s like asking to have your house burned down and your family killed, or a nuclear war. Like both horrid options but one is legit that terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 @Espresso: Like I said, “moderates” will probably cave. Although Mike Garcia is easily the worst “moderate” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, Bears01 said: @Espresso: Like I said, “moderates” will probably cave. Although Mike Garcia is easily the worst “moderate” Moderates are going to have to coalesce behind Gym if they want that precious Israel aid package to go out, as well as that resolution condemning Hamas (since they don't recognize Palestine as a state) and the rule to force Tlaib to get rid of her Palestinian flag outside her office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Moderates are going to have to coalesce behind Gym if they want that precious Israel aid package to go out, as well as that resolution condemning Hamas (since they don't recognize Palestine as a state) and the rule to force Tlaib to get rid of her Palestinian flag outside her office. And “moderates” caving to extremists is why the GOP is in such a mess right now. Look, you and I agree that democrats are incompetent and suck, but we can’t deny it: if democrats had an election like republicans did in 2022 we’d be DRAGGING them endlessly through the mud as an embarrassing and broken party. Part of the reason why republicans did so bad was them constantly caving to and appeasing the extremists. I mainly blame their primary voters, but at some point these people who represent Biden +10 districts have to take a step back and say: “gee, I probably shouldn’t vote for a lunatic who covered up child molestation” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spree Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 the GOP really can't get anything done, can they? lol. Isn't the next debt ceiling deadline in like 32 days or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, spree said: the GOP really can't get anything done, can they? lol. Isn't the next debt ceiling deadline in like 32 days or so? Debt ceiling is taken care of until 2025. If the debt ceiling wasn’t taken care of Dems wouldn’t have voted to oust McCarthy because a debt default would be catastrophic beyond words for the global economy. A government shutdown? Yeah it’s in 5 weeks. A government shutdown is bad but not on the level of a default Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemist Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 A clown show as anything GOP related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ClashAndBurn Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) So when are they picking a replacement nominee since even Gym seems nonviable at this point. Edited October 13, 2023 by ClashAndBurn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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