base talk Renaissance only 3 million daily streams, what happened??

[Axelios]

Despite her ongoing Renaissance World Tour and the numerous viral TikTok trends, Beyonce 2022 album Renaissance is already doing only 3 million daily streams on Spotify and showing poor longevity on the platform. For reference that's less than half what 2022 Grammy AOTY winner Harry's House is doing.

 

Beyonce previous album Lemonade had already suffered the same fate but that was mainly excused by it not being available on Spotify during its release (I guess all the Tidal user that gave it its record breaking streaming debut just vanished for some reason).

Renaissance on the other hand was always on Spotify with its singles being plastered at the top of the most popular playlists and benefiting from viral TikTok trends.

 

In general Beyonce has no tracks doing more than 1 million daily streams on Spotify despite the tour.

 

What do you think Beyonce can do to make her music more relevant to the GP?

[FolkLover1989]

Is there any song on TTH anymore??

That would be concerning otherwise it's fine for her standard 

[Kaizen]

The live versions of the songs are better and after hearing the live versions … I want to listen to those. 

[Otter]

16 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Despite her ongoing Renaissance World Tour and the numerous viral TikTok trends, Beyonce 2022 album Renaissance is already doing only 3 million daily streams on Spotify and showing poor longevity on the platform. For reference that's less than half what 2022 Grammy AOTY winner Harry's House is doing.

 

Beyonce previous album Lemonade had already suffered the same fate but that was mainly excused by it not being available on Spotify during its release (I guess all the Tidal user that gave it its record breaking streaming debut just vanished for some reason).

Renaissance on the other hand was always on Spotify with its singles being plastered at the top of the most popular playlists and benefiting from viral TikTok trends.

 

In general Beyonce has no tracks doing more than 1 million daily streams on Spotify despite the tour.

 

What do you think Beyonce can do to make her music more relevant to the GP?

_Older audience who stream less, we just gotta accept 40+ YO RnB female artist isn't going to have the same reach as Harry in his peak

 

_Only 1 big single (Cuff it), Alien & Heated could of easily of kept it around the 5m mark. BMS is kind of a non factor.

 

_Lack of promotion. Tour is cute but people like Harry have been everywhere on TV, music videos, on red carpets etc.

 

Rennies streams are fine, none of her peers have an album of 2022 doing more. I also think that such a queer sounding album where the most popular album track is Alien Superstar has it limits in audience... 

Edited September 27, 2023 by Otter

[tellem]

Can you name all the artists from her gen that are currently outstreaming with their latest projects? 

[HardBambi]

The album will die like Lemonade streaming wise because it doesn’t have big hits

Break my soul is a very forgettable number 1 and Cuff it was viral but I don’t think that translates into a classic

[Fitzswiftie]

7 minutes ago, Otter said:

 

 

_Only 1 big single (Cuff it), Alien & Heated could of easily of kept it around the 5m mark. BMS is kind of a non factor.

 

Also AHAM (Remix) with Kendrick Lamar doing the exact same daily numbers has the album track too

[fijitears]

Not sure honestly, but the fact that people like you make these threads while she’s constantly in conversations with an entirely new generation of artists, when debuting 2 decades/20 years ago is ******* impressive. 

 

And I’m not even a part of the hive, it was just a ‘mind blown’ realization 

[Otter]

6 minutes ago, HardBambi said:

The album will die like Lemonade streaming wise because it doesn’t have big hits

Break my soul is a very forgettable number 1 and Cuff it was viral but I don’t think that translates into a classic

This won't happen, Lemonade streams were like 600k 2 years after its Spotify release, Ren will probably be stable around the 2m mark a year from now. The albums tracks have been extremely consistent for most of the year doing 100-200k it's just the singles that have fallen off and so that damage is mostly already done.

 

 

[Kristie Kuwa]

Beyonce is in a very weird spot tbh.

 

On the one hand, she feels like a legacy act at this point - shes a mother of 3, shes been in the industry for 25+ years, she doesnt act like a newbie performing everywhere anymore (her approach is very laissez-faire)

 

Ok the other hand, artistically she still feels very current, her physique and talent allows her to perform at the best level possible, she clearly is still able to deliver music that is also appreciated by GenZ (see Cuff It success). 

 

So yeah, quite weird spot. As a fan, it always feels like shes not reaching her full potential, but then you compare her to her real peers like Britney, Justin Timberlake, etc and suddenly her achievements seem gigantic (only challenged by Eminem)

[Fitzswiftie]

6 minutes ago, tellem said:

Can you name all the artists from her gen that are currently outstreaming with their latest projects? 

Literally only Shakira, her 2023 droplets are doing 5.7m daily.

 

Her peers latest projects daily streams in (2022 or 2023 albums).

 

• Kylie Minogue (2023) - 1.913m (just released 4 days ago)

• Pink (2023) - 982,661

• Ciara (2023) - 244,475

• Kelly Clarkson (2023) - 232,296

• Avril Lavigne (2022) - 206,544

• Jennifer Lopez (2022) - 62,767

• Christina Aguilera (2022) - 46,511

• Alicia Keys (2021) - 36,871

• Mary J. Blige (2022) - 23,175

• Toni Braxton (2020) - 6,459

• Mandy Moore (2022) - 2,865

[vale9001]

it's not that bad imo. The album has only a soft hit.

[Solaria]

Why are you so obsessed with Beyoncé? Literally all your replies in threads are either about her or Dua:

 

16 hours ago, Axelios said:

It was in a better sales climate yes but it was not impossible to have much better sales in the 2010s (Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran, Drake, Adele...).

4 also had a lot of promo and was still not a smash era.

Maybe BEYONCE would have performed better with more promo but that's kinda irrelevant. At the end of the day it wasn't a smash like other albums from that time.

17 hours ago, Axelios said:

Spotify is the biggest music streaming service globally much bigger than Apple Music. And it's not like Beyonce is performing remarkably well on Apple Music charts anyway.

Beyonce was a success but not really a smash era. The last Beyonce smash era is Sasha Fierce which had almost double Beyonce total units.

On 9/26/2023 at 8:49 AM, Axelios said:

Beyonce needs one to cement her legacy. She failed to have one since her worst album Sasha Fierce

On 9/22/2023 at 8:45 AM, Axelios said:

Noone cares what you can recognize or not. Speak Now is more well known and remembered than the vast majority of Beyonce discography.

In fact, Beyonce continuously failed to make an album as successful as Speak Now in the last 13 years.

On 9/16/2023 at 9:46 AM, Axelios said:

Maybe in some parts of the US and Europe? Most of the world couldn't care less about Beyonce while Taylor has been much more universally admired

On 9/15/2023 at 12:52 PM, Axelios said:

Did Sia work with Beyonce ?

[tellem]

21 minutes ago, Fitzswiftie said:

Literally only Shakira, her 2023 droplets are doing 5.7m daily.

 

Her peers latest projects daily streams in (2022 or 2023 albums).

 

• Kylie Minogue (2023) - 1.913m (just released 4 days ago)

• Pink (2023) - 982,661

• Ciara (2023) - 244,475

• Kelly Clarkson (2023) - 232,296

• Avril Lavigne (2022) - 206,544

• Jennifer Lopez (2022) - 62,767

 

• Alicia Keys (2021) - 36,871

• Mary J. Blige (2022) - 23,175

• Toni Braxton (2020) - 6,459

• Mandy Moore (2022) - 2,865

And OP was comparing her to Harry Styles  

[Margaux]

not with an ongoing tour and force tiktok payola. and she’s doing. this amount. 

[MrPiggyMoka]

3 minutes ago, Love Again said:

Why are you so obsessed with Beyoncé? Literally all your replies in threads are either about her or Dua:

 

Literally scary… mental institution

[Komet]

People are obvi attending the Reconnaissance tour instead of streaming

 

[CaptainMusic]

25 minutes ago, Fitzswiftie said:

Literally only Shakira, her 2023 droplets are doing 5.7m daily.

 

Her peers latest projects daily streams in (2022 or 2023 albums).

 

• Kylie Minogue (2023) - 1.913m (just released 4 days ago)

• Pink (2023) - 982,661

• Ciara (2023) - 244,475

• Kelly Clarkson (2023) - 232,296

• Avril Lavigne (2022) - 206,544

• Jennifer Lopez (2022) - 62,767

• Christina Aguilera (2022) - 46,511

• Alicia Keys (2021) - 36,871

• Mary J. Blige (2022) - 23,175

• Toni Braxton (2020) - 6,459

• Mandy Moore (2022) - 2,865

Kylie, Mary and Toni are not her peers wtf. 
 

The rest yes.

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She’s doing fine.

[Saint James]

26 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Ok the other hand, artistically she still feels very current, her physique and talent allows her to perform at the best level possible, she clearly is still able to deliver music that is also appreciated by GenZ (see Cuff It success). 

honestly idk why people are saying this cos the clips i’ve seen look like permanent wear n tear. she can’t move that much anymore 

[WitnessOblivia]

I'd say 3m is pretty impressive? 

Edited September 27, 2023 by WitnessOblivia

[God_Donna]

Because it’s not good 

[mael]

Yeah, seems like no one has an explanation

[Steve Johnson]

Fans are playing this on mute. 

[enchanted0]

They're doing a mute challenge even outside of the stadium

[Safe&Sound]

Her team is frustrating

 

Idk if it's Beyonce's actual intention to keep herself not overexposed, but she barely keeps up with the trend

Heated definitely showed potential, Energy too, yet her team didnt lift any finger, and instead give us a Kendrick Lamar remix which is great, but no one asked for it

 

I thought this era she would go back to commerical route again