Communion Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) Edited September 23, 2023 by Communion
Onyxmage Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 He definitely won’t resign. Most politicians have no integrity. He already dismissed the allegations as normal congressional conduct.
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted September 23, 2023 ATRL Administrator Posted September 23, 2023 Not again. The first time I could look over it. This time? Resign. Leave. Get out. So Phil can replace him with someone who can retain the seat and won’t drag down the ticket.
If U Seek Amy Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 The fact it happened before is so sad. He should immediately be removed and replaced. Another greedy fossil who refuses to give up power for their own greed
Communion Posted September 23, 2023 Author Posted September 23, 2023 @Onyxmage @Ryan Him probably refusing to resign may not mean much cause it's looking more likely he (thankfully) isn't making it out of the primary the nominee. 1
jakeisphat Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 If he doesn't resign I can see a republican winning his seat..
Bears01 Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 He’s such a god awful Senator lol. He should resign and Murphy should appoint himself as his replacement because most NJ politicians are also…………..not great, to put it nicely. Do you agree @Communion
Vixen Eyes Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 as a New Jersian, we have indeed been cursed with bad politicians the first one i can remember was gov. christie
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted September 23, 2023 ATRL Administrator Posted September 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, Vixen Eyes said: as a New Jersian, we have indeed been cursed with bad politicians the first one i can remember was gov. christie Chile you don’t remember our gay governor having an affair? 2
Communion Posted September 23, 2023 Author Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Bears01 said: He’s such a god awful Senator lol. He should resign and Murphy should appoint himself as his replacement because most NJ politicians are also…………..not great, to put it nicely. Do you agree @Communion I actually think, if a progressive can knock Menendez out in the primary, the Senate election would be easy for a Dem to win and not necessary for Murphy to do something like that (which would come off as sleazy). With political insiders saying that most of the state's conservatives are instead eyeing to replace Murphy in 2025. But yes, Menendez is a piece of **** and awful senator: https://heystacks.com/doc/489/congressional-democrat-tracker-leftist-edition If Menendez did resign, I think Murphy would be more likely to find some way to connect his replacement to Sheila Oliver's death and the importance of having black women in higher office, saying he is ensuring there's a black woman in the halls of the Senate, etc. and picking someone as a precursor to then run for the seat in November 2024. It'd give him the chance to usurp Newsom delaying calls to remove Feinstein and replace her with a black woman (+he loves to showboat over other governors) and you easily have someone like Bonnie Watson Coleman who's the rare type of politician to have reach across a myriad of voter groups. The only thing in Bonnie's way is that she's 78 but would win in a landslide. Even someone as jaded with Dems like me would volunteer if Bonnie ran for Senate. I was actually upset when I had to move a few months ago and realized I moved out of her district. Edited September 23, 2023 by Communion
Vixen Eyes Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ryan said: Chile you don’t remember our gay governor having an affair? when was that? i was born July 2000 so i dont remember anything from before Obama took presidential office and i also dont really watch too closely with whos who
Katamari Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ryan said: Chile you don’t remember our gay governor having an affair? dd wait the what now 1
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted September 23, 2023 ATRL Administrator Posted September 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Vixen Eyes said: when was that? i was born July 2000 so i dont remember anything from before Obama took presidential office and i also dont really watch too closely with whos who 2004 lol. 3 minutes ago, Katamari said: dd wait the what now Omg NJ Governor to Resign After Revealing Gay Affair https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2004/aug/13/nj-governor-to-resign-after-revealing-gay-affair/ 2
JBJT2786 Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Bears01 said: He’s such a god awful Senator lol. He should resign and Murphy should appoint himself as his replacement because most NJ politicians are also…………..not great, to put it nicely. Do you agree @Communion My state has the most corrupt politicians ever. There has been one senator or governor in the last 30 years without one type of controversy . The only one that was decent was the gay one and even he was scum since he was cheating on his wife with a staffer. 1
Katamari Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ryan said: 2004 lol. Omg NJ Governor to Resign After Revealing Gay Affair https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2004/aug/13/nj-governor-to-resign-after-revealing-gay-affair/ oh my damn 1
Bears01 Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, JBJT2786 said: My state has the most corrupt politicians ever. There has been one senator or governor in the last 30 years without one type of controversy . The only one that was decent was the gay one and even he was scum since he was cheating on his wife with a staffer. Fam, I used to live in IL and live right outside the state now….as bad as NJ is, IL is worse (Rod Blagovich, Rahm Emanuel, mayor Daily, Lori Lightfood, Kim Foxx, Bruce Rauner, Pat Quinn etc can all attest to that. Even Dick Durbin is one of the most laziest, do nothing senators in the senate currently). 38 minutes ago, Communion said: I actually think, if a progressive can knock Menendez out in the primary, the Senate election would be easy for a Dem to win and not necessary for Murphy to do something like that (which would come off as sleazy). With political insiders saying that most of the state's conservatives are instead eyeing to replace Murphy in 2025. But yes, Menendez is a piece of **** and awful senator: https://heystacks.com/doc/489/congressional-democrat-tracker-leftist-edition If Menendez did resign, I think Murphy would be more likely to find some way to connect his replacement to Sheila Oliver's death and the importance of having black women in higher office, saying he is ensuring there's a black woman in the halls of the Senate, etc. and picking someone as a precursor to then run for the seat in November 2024. It'd give him the chance to usurp Newsom delaying calls to remove Feinstein and replace her with a black woman (+he loves to showboat over other governors) and you easily have someone like Bonnie Watson Coleman who's the rare type of politician to have reach across a myriad of voter groups. The only thing in Bonnie's way is that she's 78 but would win in a landslide. Even someone as jaded with Dems like me would volunteer if Bonnie ran for Senate. I was actually upset when I had to move a few months ago and realized I moved out of her district. I was gonna say, BWC is pretty great, but still 78 is a bit too old to be entering the senate.
Communion Posted September 23, 2023 Author Posted September 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, JBJT2786 said: My state has the most corrupt politicians ever. There has been one senator or governor in the last 30 years without one type of controversy . The only one that was decent was the gay one and even he was scum since he was cheating on his wife with a staffer. And the worst of all... Phil's bad wig: (I kid ) 1
nadiamendell Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 Not stuffed cash and gold bars. What kind of D list murder mystery movie is this?
BGKC Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 Out of all the states, NJ has got to be the biggest political joke, literally and figuratively. 1
Onyxmage Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 3 hours ago, BGKC said: Out of all the states, NJ has got to be the biggest political joke, literally and figuratively. I would say its florida but from the more dem leaning states it definitely is. We dont talk about her much for.... reasons....
Bears01 Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 @Communion thoughts? https://x.com/andykimnj/status/1705658967878230372?s=46&t=F2Kqdy7aScoPGAKFHNr8dQ On the surface, he’s MUCH better than Menendez but I’m sure you’d know more
Communion Posted September 23, 2023 Author Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Bears01 said: @Communion thoughts? https://x.com/andykimnj/status/1705658967878230372?s=46&t=F2Kqdy7aScoPGAKFHNr8dQ On the surface, he’s MUCH better than Menendez but I’m sure you’d know more I mean... he's a former CIA centrist in a blue state who now runs to the right after being a centrist in the Obama admin, so of course I'm gonna think he's wholly unfit for the job, and think it's ridiculous that there are *multiple* black progressives in the NJ delegation yet we may end up where the national party tries to clear the field for Kim. Sending him and Slotkin to the Senate unchallenged will basically confirm the party is not a place for progressive. Progressives (co-sponsor $17/hr minimum wage, M4A, Expanding SCOTUS) - Bonnie Watson Coleman - Donald Payne Jr. Liberal Dems: - Frank Palone - Bill Pascrell Centrist Dems: - Rob Menendez - Andy Kim - Donald Norcross DINOs: - Mikie Sherrill - Josh Gottheimer At the end of the day, not supporting M4A is simply a non-starter for me. Andy Kim literally ran last election on being a "proud centrist" who wouldn't be afraid to "stand up to Biden" and other Dems if needed. It's either Coleman - or Payne if the party think she's too old - or voting 3rd party.
Bears01 Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Communion said: I mean... he's a former CIA centrist in a blue state who now runs to the right after being a centrist in the Obama admin, so of course I'm gonna think he's wholly unfit for the job, and think it's ridiculous that there are *multiple* black progressives in the NJ delegation yet we may end up where the national party tries to clear the field for Kim. Sending him and Slotkin to the Senate unchallenged will basically confirm the party is not a place for progressive. Progressives (co-sponsor $17/hr minimum wage, M4A, Expanding SCOTUS) - Bonnie Watson Coleman - Donald Payne Jr. Liberal Dems: - Frank Palone - Bill Pascrell Centrist Dems: - Rob Menendez - Andy Kim - Donald Norcross DINOs: - Mikie Sherrill - Josh Gottheimer At the end of the day, not supporting M4A is simply a non-starter for me. Andy Kim literally ran last election on being a "proud centrist" who wouldn't be afraid to "stand up to Biden" and other Dems if needed. It's either Coleman - or Payne if the party think she's too old - or voting 3rd party. I see….I wasn’t that familiar with his background so that’s why I asked. I just seen that he was in the progressive caucus when he first joint congress (at least I thought so). So, probably just a menendez clone minus outright taking bribes then 1
Communion Posted September 23, 2023 Author Posted September 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Bears01 said: I see….I wasn’t that familiar with his background so that’s why I asked. I just seen that he was in the progressive caucus when he first joint congress (at least I thought so). So, probably just a menendez clone minus outright taking bribes then The issue is that anyone can join any caucus in Congress (obviously you can't be like.. not black and join the Congressional Black Caucus), but things like "Congressional Progressive Caucus" don't have ideological or voting requirements. So Kim is a CPC member, but is against M4A and the Green New Deal, and all of his hard-right votes in the House come from his national security background: Being against removing troops from Syria Being against removing troops from Somalia For sanctions on solar panels just because they're made in China Against cuts to the defense budget (he has voted against EVERY single DoD cut proposed, even the majority of House dems have voted for it) For unlimited funding for Israel, including the Iron Dome For militarizing the border with troops For Trump-penned sanctions on Iran He's also one of the most vocal opponents to letting those in prison votes, which is insidious given that Nj has one of the largest *and blackest* prison populations in the country. He'd obviously be better than like Sherrill or Gottheimer but these people and their crony centrism do not represent the New Jersey that I know and love, and progressives failing to step up, and instead just allow these cronies keys to power will just further disillusion me from thinking the Democratic Party is a worthwhile one. My NJ isn't anti-poor, anti-immigrant, etc. and I am too tired to ever vote for someone like that ever again.
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