Uncatena Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, undermyskin said: Idk girl, I'm gonna have to disagree. It is NOT black and white. See one of my replies to another user in this thread for my opinion on why it's not. This line of thinking is crazy to me though. She should be paying her crew out of pocket indefinitely until the strike is over because she can? I'm honestly not sure y'all know how economics work. I'm sure Drew is well off but do you think she's a billionaire? If she employs 200 people and on average those 200 people make $50k a year. That's $4.1k a month per employee. $4.1k x 200employees = $820,000 a month out of pocket to pay her employees. The strike has been going on for four months. She would've spent 3.2m thus far with no end insight. That is NOT feasible. She'd likely have nothing left by the end of the year. If the strike is still going on then what do you propose? Because according to y'alls logic NOBODY can return to work until the strike is over even if they're in compliance with the guidelines. And again, this is MORE than just her and HER employees. Say she did pay her employees indefinitely until the end of the strike. The show still can't return until the end of the strike. Do you expect Drew to pay for example, warehouse workers for lighting and grip rental companies, that have had their hours cut due to the strikes? Because they're not going to get their hours back if no productions are going on just because Drew is paying her employees. all this whataboutism to defend a rich famous person like... i really don't care that much. Drew made a mistake, was called out for it, doubled down, was called out for it again, and is now doing the right thing. equating that to republicans is genuinely insane to me and there is no discussion ground for me here cause I can't comprehend that thought process. acting like Drew doesn't have power and money and could absolutely cover her crew one way or another... like huh? also the bolded part... that's not the damn point. the point is that Drew's show 100% would have had writers working despite the strike, took WGA buttons from audience members etc. "unscripted" doesn't literally mean there is no script lmfao. its her attitude about the whole thing. not to mention she did acting gigs after the strike already began. there are a lot of studios and actors who are in compliance with SAG AFTRA and WAG and are able to promote and work. she was not. and she was wrong for that. black and white. simple. 1
undermyskin Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 Just now, ChapelHooker said: all this whataboutism to defend a rich famous person like... i really don't care that much. Drew made a mistake, was called out for it, doubled down, was called out for it again, and is now doing the right thing. equating that to republicans is genuinely insane to me and there is no discussion ground for me here cause I can't comprehend that thought process. acting like Drew doesn't have power and money and could absolutely cover her crew one way or another... like huh? also the bolded part... that's not the damn point. the point is that Drew's show 100% would have had writers working despite the strike, took WGA buttons from audience members etc. "unscripted" doesn't literally mean there is no script lmfao. its her attitude about the whole thing. not to mention she did acting gigs after the strike already began. there are a lot of studios and actors who are in compliance with SAG AFTRA and WAG and are able to promote and work. she was not. and she was wrong for that. black and white. simple. Funny how when actual talking points and valid criticisms are made of your point of view it turns into "youre defending a famous person...I don't care that much". Like, ok girl. So performative and for what. 3 1
Kern Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, undermyskin said: Congratulations yall! Thanks!
JustHoran Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 Why are Sherri Shepherd and Jennifer Hudson, who are both actresses and use writers for their talk shows, allowed to continue to do their shows but Drew has had to stop hers?
DAP Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, okgo said: Drew's clearly in solidarity too still, whether you believe it to be forced solidarity or not is semantics, the point is the show is not returning. We don't know any of these people or what's happening behind the scenes, maybe some of her employees are starting to grow frustrated as time passes and they might be the ones actually having trouble feeding their kids, Drew being in a better position doesn't mean she is in an easy or top position (and we can't expect her to be paying her entire crew herself because, again, we don't know what her life is like and, most importantly, that's on the STUDIOS - the ones who are actually responsible for all of this, who have the power to change it and deserve the continuous backlash) we're wasting time on Drew, she's ultimately a pawn in Hollywood and has been since she started working as a child to provide for her broke mother. Y'all should focus on getting The View canceled now too who continued to air despite having 2 WGA writers on staff and has not been made to be a big deal until Drew decided to follow suit if this is such a passionate issue (but something tells me no one will care as much). You cannot be a pawn and powerful simultaneously. Drew is not the cause for their condition of labor but she is complicit (and an antagonizer in this instance) by not agitating on the behalf of workers that she supposedly cares about, and yes I’ll call her out for as long as she claims to be a “caring” person, and yes I have as much vitriol for studios, politicians, lobbyists, and everyone else of the status quo as I do her. Feel free to give her as much goodwill as you’d like, but I won’t. Thousands of people striking (not just SAG or WGA, but airliners, service people, delivery people, all that are much more disempowered than she is) are doing so under the threat of discipline that she (the Barrymores are a poor girl) could never experience but she has the audacity to interfere against their cause? Of course I’ll hold that against her. Edited September 17, 2023 by DAP
Luis Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, JustHoran said: Why are Sherri Shepherd and Jennifer Hudson, who are both actresses and use writers for their talk shows, allowed to continue to do their shows but Drew has had to stop hers? Sherri doesn't use WGA writers
JustHoran Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Luis said: Sherri doesn't use WGA writers Oh ok, thanks! I wasn't sure. Now I wonder why Jennifer Hudson is still allowed, unless she doesn't use WGA writers either. I know Kelly appears to be delaying her talk show too 1
Luis Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, JustHoran said: Oh ok, thanks! I wasn't sure. Now I wonder why Jennifer Hudson is still allowed, unless she doesn't use WGA writers either. I know Kelly appears to be delaying her talk show too J.Hud and Kelly both use WGA writers
okgo Posted September 17, 2023 Author Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, DAP said: You cannot be a pawn and powerful simultaneously. Drew is not the cause for their condition of labor but she is complicit (and an antagonizer in this instance) by not agitating on the behalf of workers that she supposedly cares about, and yes I’ll call her out for as long as she claims to be a “caring” person, and yes I have as much vitriol for studios, politicians, lobbyists, and everyone else of the status quo as I do her. Feel free to give her as much goodwill as you’d like, but I won’t. Thousands of people striking (not just SAG or WGA, but airliners, service people, delivery people, all that are much more disempowered than she is) are doing so under the threat of discipline that she (the Barrymores are a poor girl) could never experience but she has the audacity to interfere against their cause? Her father was a Barrymore but he abandoned her and her mother when Drew was 6 months old (let alone the generations of addiction that drain an inheritance in a hurry, those people burned their money), any money left in that family didn't go to them. She certainly got plenty Hollywood connections from the name but she didn't come from money and was pretty much always the main provider in her household Edited September 17, 2023 by okgo
Uncatena Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, undermyskin said: Funny how when actual talking points and valid criticisms are made of your point of view it turns into "youre defending a famous person...I don't care that much". Like, ok girl. So performative and for what. I mean... you didn't engage in any of the points I raised either so... pot calling the cattle black I guess? <3 1
Gladiator Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 45 minutes ago, Freakshowvato said: Why are people still attacking her? She gave everyone what they wanted and obvi grew in the process of being attacked. Because she made the choice in the first place. Classic behavior from people behind keyboards to continue to scold a decision made by someone they don't agree with. 1
Finite Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, livelikemusic said: Hmmm, it feels like this either needs its own thread or there should be some megathread about all the Hollywood strikes for major tv/streaming shows
livelikemusic Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Charcoal Baby said: Hmmm, it feels like this either needs its own thread or there should be some megathread about all the Hollywood strikes for major tv/streaming shows I only placed here because the decision seems to be made directly due to Drew Barrymore's decision. And both are CBS connected....
Finite Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, livelikemusic said: I only placed here because the decision seems to be made directly due to Drew Barrymore's decision. And both are CBS connected.... Right I get that, I’m not saying you did anything bad lol, I’m just wondering if having a single thread where everyone can post stuff related to this would be easier 1
livelikemusic Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Charcoal Baby said: Right I get that, I’m not saying you did anything bad lol, I’m just wondering if having a single thread where everyone can post stuff related to this would be easier It would, but we all know individual topics would be posted, too, haha. 1
Chris Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 People still skull dragging her. Come on Dylan.
WildAmerican Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 People should really get their boots off her neck now, she did what ppl wanted. If we still shame people even after they've corrected, would anyone even want to correct anymore?? 1
Chris Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 The PopCrave replies still dragging her through the dirt. Someone saying her lips need to be pulled over her head.
Smarticle Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 Did she ever support the strike or go on the picket line before this should've just sat there and ate her food
undermyskin Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, ChapelHooker said: I mean... you didn't engage in any of the points I raised either so... pot calling the cattle black I guess? <3 Lmao…you just keep reiterating that you believe Drew can pay them but when I broke down just how expensive that could be…you didn’t really have **** to say. And when I asked if she was expected to pay people that don’t work for her but are affected by the lack of productions going on it was “all this whataboutism”. But to your “point” according to Drew, and the Variety article, she was going to comeback without WGA writers and was going to be in compliance. You’re choosing to believe she wouldn’t have been. Also, considering you really couldn’t defend any of your points you just reiterated one of them and then started talking about a new one, it’s probably safe to say you truly don’t care that much (your words, not mine). You’d rather flex performative activism on a pop music forum and then in the next breath come for somebody for “defending a famous person” on a pop music forum dedicated to…defending famous people. the jokes write themselves with you ChapelHooker.
undermyskin Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 3 hours ago, ChapelHooker said: all this whataboutism to defend a rich famous person like... i really don't care that much. Drew made a mistake, was called out for it, doubled down, was called out for it again, and is now doing the right thing. equating that to republicans is genuinely insane to me and there is no discussion ground for me here cause I can't comprehend that thought process. acting like Drew doesn't have power and money and could absolutely cover her crew one way or another... like huh? also the bolded part... that's not the damn point. the point is that Drew's show 100% would have had writers working despite the strike, took WGA buttons from audience members etc. "unscripted" doesn't literally mean there is no script lmfao. its her attitude about the whole thing. not to mention she did acting gigs after the strike already began. there are a lot of studios and actors who are in compliance with SAG AFTRA and WAG and are able to promote and work. she was not. and she was wrong for that. black and white. simple. Quoting this again because you’re making it so easy to drag you. You have ZERO posts in this thread mentioning any of this. Your entire argument in my notifications was you saying she could pay her staff without a problem. Then when there was a logical rebuttal to that…the goalpost was moved.
Uncatena Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, undermyskin said: Lmao…you just keep reiterating that you believe Drew can pay them but when I broke down just how expensive that could be…you didn’t really have **** to say. And when I asked if she was expected to pay people that don’t work for her but are affected by the lack of productions going on it was “all this whataboutism”. But to your “point” according to Drew, and the Variety article, she was going to comeback without WGA writers and was going to be in compliance. You’re choosing to believe she wouldn’t have been. Also, considering you really couldn’t defend any of your points you just reiterated one of them and then started talking about a new one, it’s probably safe to say you truly don’t care that much (your words, not mine). You’d rather flex performative activism on a pop music forum and then in the next breath come for somebody for “defending a famous person” on a pop music forum dedicated to…defending famous people. the jokes write themselves with you ChapelHooker. hdjsjdjsjs you gagged tf out of me work!
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