burninredhot Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Not the LMs down voting and reporting this 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimenawa Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Yeah she ended Madonna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaklux Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Depends on the question- Commercially Taylor is but Beyoncé is still a bigger celebrity than Taylor in the US . Outside of music industry, when they compare biggest celebs like Ronaldo, Messi, etc is Beyoncé’s name that mostly comes up. Her attendance at this year Grammys only solidified that point with the way everyone were all over her. If Beyonce and a Taylor arrive at red carpet at the same time, the paparazzi’s will be all over Bey way more than Taylor. Taylor just doesn’t have that hold, that aura that Bey has. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Yes, easily. The past 2 years have confirmed it. Commercial success, cultural cache, touring success, star power… she really stands above the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, chaklux said: Depends on the question- Commercially Taylor is but Beyoncé is still a bigger celebrity than Taylor in the US . Outside of music industry, when they compare biggest celebs like Ronaldo, Messi, etc is Beyoncé’s name that mostly comes up. Her attendance at this year Grammys only solidified that point with the way everyone were all over her. If Beyonce and a Taylor arrive at red carpet at the same time, the paparazzi’s will be all over Bey way more than Taylor. Taylor just doesn’t have that hold, that aura that Bey has. So what you're telling me is that Beyoncé is a bigger celebrity than she is a musician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueberries Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 she's been for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Yes she is reaching the level of the biggest US solo musicians MJ and Elvis. The Beatles will probably always remain bigger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, chaklux said: Depends on the question- Commercially Taylor is but Beyoncé is still a bigger celebrity than Taylor in the US . Outside of music industry, when they compare biggest celebs like Ronaldo, Messi, etc is Beyoncé’s name that mostly comes up. Her attendance at this year Grammys only solidified that point with the way everyone were all over her. If Beyonce and a Taylor arrive at red carpet at the same time, the paparazzi’s will be all over Bey way more than Taylor. Taylor just doesn’t have that hold, that aura that Bey has. The delusion of Beyonce fans is really embarassing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshwark Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Madonna kept pumping hits 30 years later after debuting, so we'll in 15 years how's Taylor doing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, tshwark said: Madonna kept pumping hits 30 years later after debuting, so we'll in 15 years how's Taylor doing. What are Madonna 2012+ hits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshwark Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Axelios said: What are Madonna 2012+ hits? GMAYL 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, tshwark said: GMAYL Please be serious It was a huge flop in the US/UK and an underperformance everywhere else mostly carried by Madonna (dwindling) fanbase Edited September 13, 2023 by Axelios 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmyth Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 I don't think that is true STILL. She can be, and probably can get to be... But in the US, there is Mariah, Celine, Barbra, Whitney and specially Madonna that are still above her, and will be a bigger 'legend name' than her at least for another 10-15 years. She is at her peak. The real test comes once the decline comes (as it does for everyone) and to see how big the decline is, how she manages it and so on. Anyway, she is the biggest female in the US that came in the last 20 years, I can give her that, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshwark Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Axelios said: Please be serious It was a huge flop in the US/UK and an underperformance everywhere else mostly carried by Madonna (dwindling) fanbase Lmaoooo, if it reaches the Top 10 it's a hit whether you like it or not, and even bigger in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brikenbur Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 She’s definitely the QUEEN of the VMAs Such an honorable feat for such a flaling platform. Maybe her and Queen of iTunes, Nicki Minaj, can sync up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unino Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 bottom yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolonio ₃₄ Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, tshwark said: Lmaoooo, if it reaches the Top 10 it's a hit whether you like it or not, and even bigger in Europe. It didn't even make the year end list despite being a February release. That's not a hit Edited September 13, 2023 by Axelios 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madonno Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 I don't tjink so, she feels non eventful outside her fanbase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshowvato Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MingYouToo Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, zzmyth said: I don't think that is true STILL. She can be, and probably can get to be... But in the US, there is Mariah, Celine, Barbra, Whitney and specially Madonna that are still above her, and will be a bigger 'legend name' than her at least for another 10-15 years. She is at her peak. The real test comes once the decline comes (as it does for everyone) and to see how big the decline is, how she manages it and so on. Anyway, she is the biggest female in the US that came in the last 20 years, I can give her that, sure. Stop this nonsense lmao I'm a huge Mariah fan and even in Mariah's 18th year she was already floundering with TMB and the eventual Obsessed single in her 20th anniversary, sure TMB was a 3 week #1 and Obsessed went Top 10 but compared to Taylor's 18th year domination? Nowhere near. Even worse for Celine and Whitney who were just decade long phenoms, 15 years if you want to extend it. Taylor is on her way to dominating everyone on her 20th year, will probably even be her biggest year yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Johnson Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Water is wet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvarie Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 For her fanbase (which almost all of YT America) yea. I need her to work on her vocals/stage presence/dancing so she feels like an artist tho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 I mean... It's pretty obvious at this point. 4 hours ago, tshwark said: Lmaoooo, if it reaches the Top 10 it's a hit whether you like it or not, and even bigger in Europe. Good to know Taylor has more hits than Madonna in the US then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshwark Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Klein said: I mean... It's pretty obvious at this point. Good to know Taylor has more hits than Madonna in the US then And thank you for reminding me that Madonna’s hits where so much bigger, because with little less she’s ranked higher on the all time chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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