ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted September 13, 2023 ATRL Administrator Posted September 13, 2023 Taylor won multiple VMAs over Olivia. Is this just further proof of her dominance? Or does the VMA’s just not understand art? Discuss 13 2
Smarticle Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, ohwow said: are the vmas fan-voted awards? yes but only some categories
loveisdead9582 Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Because talent won…. And in this particular instance, being a fan influenced awards show also helped.
Zayn Malik Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 I mean they’re fan voted… no non kpop act is gonna beat her 4
Sabrina Carpenter Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Taylor has like 10x more fans than Olivia
ohwow Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Just now, Smarticle said: yes well... not the OP talking about "understanding art" then... like as if the largest fanbase = 'best' art i- anyways 1
drivers license Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 i mean it’s fan voted, what are y’all expecting like, if even if it’s not and we’re being real even vampire wouldn’t win something when the big smash Flowers was right there. 1
ATRL Moderator wehavetostan Posted September 13, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted September 13, 2023 It was fan-voted. Stream Olivia's amazing performance though 2
Michael196 Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Not Ryan getting as drunk as Taylor and deciding to be messy 1 1 5
Rep2000 Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Just now, ohwow said: well... not the OP talking about "understanding art" then... like as if the largest fanbase = 'best' art i- anyways Issa joke I-
Raphy23 Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Other than fan voting Taylor is 13 years older than Olivia, and has way more experience in the industry.
Bears01 Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Anyways, Taylor’s music>>>>>>>Taylor’s videos. There’s no standing between the Swifties for fan voted awards. It’s like bringing a handgun to a nuclear war 4
Maroonx Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Taylor didn't stomp anyone... She was chill and kept to herself.. She had a friend (Selena) and (possibly) her mom and that's the only people she basically talked to, there's nothing to say.
lacy Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Did swifties not just the other week mass vote someone else out of an award because they weren't a fan of taylor swift? nn
Pop_Data Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bears01 said: Anyways, Taylor’s music>>>>>>>Taylor’s videos. There’s no standing between the Swifties for fan voted awards. It’s like bringing a handgun to a nuclear war In the 10’s Taylor has constantly lost against Justin Bieber so Taylor is beatable in fan voted categories.
Pop_Data Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Maroonx said: Taylor didn't stomp anyone... She was chill and kept to herself.. She had a friend (Selena) and (possibly) her mom and that's the only people she basically talked to, there's nothing to say. Taylor was seated with Ice Spice. 1 1
Redstreak Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, wehavetostan said: It was fan-voted. Stream Olivia's amazing performance though Well, you can tell she was one of the few that performed live I’ll say that Edited September 13, 2023 by Redstreak
Popboi. Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 It was absolutely expected Taylor would sweep as it's mostly fan voted with Flowers being the only viable contender for some categories.
on the line Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bears01 said: Anyways, Taylor’s music>>>>>>>Taylor’s videos. There’s no standing between the Swifties for fan voted awards. It’s like bringing a handgun to a nuclear war I agree but Anti-Hero is an exception. I've watched that video more times (maybe 8?) than I've watched other music videos combined in the last 5 years. It's a weird but fun video to watch. I don't think Taylor deserves any directing awards for it tho lol 1
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