poll Is Britney really the Queen of the VMAs?

[Diet Pepsi]

8 minutes ago, shyboi said:

 

well, yeah, i was looking for shake it off but it's not on yt

since you added Miley to the poll could you also add her to the OP? thanks 

[shyboi]

1 minute ago, Pink Whitney said:

since you added Miley to the poll could you also add her to the OP? thanks 

 

I did sis 

[SharonStone]

This would not be a flex even if the VMAs weren't obsolete

[Keeandga]

Madonna 

Britney 

Beyonce 

Gaga 

[Blue Rose]

who has the most VMAs wins?

[swissman]

A lot of people are saying things that actually describe Madonna.

 

The fact that Madonna performed what has become one of the most ICONIC VMAs moments in history, and just pop-history in general, ON THE FIRST VMAs ever... setting the tone for the likes of Britney to use it as a means of shock and pop-promotion...

 

the answer IS Madonna.

 

[Virgos Groove]

With the LAV performance, Madonna literally set the tone for what the VMAs would be. She'll always be the queen of the VMAs.

 

OT: Wait, @swissman already made this point above.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Virgos Groove

[NOW]

It's Madonna. Over the span of several decades (not just over a string of years coupled together), she has had multiple live performances that shocked/awed while also producing high quality music videos that pushed the envelope and were very artistic. I don't think we'll get something like that again since both she and MTV were growing in popularity symbiotically.

[Inspirit]

Why is Beyoncé even on this list, she doesn't have a single iconic VMA performance lol

Because she did win a lot of awards ?

 

[Avenger]

The dramatics here is too much lol, people are so triggered she literally said she was called the queen of vmas based on her performances by someone she herself isn’t claiming anything herself. And how relevant or irrelevant vmas is even the topic here? This has no co relation. 

[shyboi]

12 minutes ago, swissman said:

A lot of people are saying things that actually describe Madonna.

 

The fact that Madonna performed what has become one of the most ICONIC VMAs moments in history, and just pop-history in general, ON THE FIRST VMAs ever... setting the tone for the likes of Britney to use it as a means of shock and pop-promotion...

 

the answer IS Madonna.

 

 

8 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

With the LAV performance, Madonna literally set the tone for what the VMAs would be. She'll always be the queen of the VMAs.

 

OT: Wait, @swissman already made this point above.

 

But isn't the kiss the most famous madonna vma moment ever?

[Rev8]

7 minutes ago, swissman said:

A lot of people are saying things that actually describe Madonna.

 

The fact that Madonna performed what has become one of the most ICONIC VMAs moments in history, and just pop-history in general, ON THE FIRST VMAs ever... setting the tone for the likes of Britney to use it as a means of shock and pop-promotion...

 

the answer IS Madonna.

 

Madonna definitely MADE the VMAs

there is no arguing that

 

But time and time again, Britney has been the one to be used in their promos still to this day

she has like 4 iconic performances (more than some big artists combined) and they are still referenced till this day

 

 

Madonna is the creator

But ultimately - Britney has been more synonymous with them
(and I am both a Madge and Brit stan. Madge literally paved the way (in many ways too) so this shouldn't bother anyone)

[Miichael]

Britney has the most iconic and memorable VMA moments of any artist, so it's pretty undeniable. Madonna was the original VMA queen though.

[tshwark]

Year after year since 2000 until 2009 Britney was used to hype the show, is Britney performing? is Britney presenting? is Britney even attending? promo ads, skits, and it wasn't only for her sales, she is the best-selling female of the 2000s, but it was also for her performances and star power, with only 21 years old she was named Forbes’  most powerful Celebrity, then came Gaga and nothing else, that's why the VMAs are irrelevant now.

[brenda-walsh]

that would be madonna

 

don't know why people are naming Gaga when she only had the meat dress and paprazzi performance 

[swissman]

4 minutes ago, Inspirit said:

Why is Beyoncé even on this list, she doesn't have a single iconic VMA performance lol

Because she did win a lot of awards ?

 

Hm.

 

Well yes, first of all she is the most awarded artist in VMAs history.

 

As for iconic performances, the pregnancy reveal is up there and always on the list of iconic performances from the awards show.

I will agree that mostly, though her performances are serving "best of the night" they do get overlooked for the more outright shocking moments. Like her VMAs debut (because DC never performed there) descending upside down onto the stage was the same night as the Britney/Madonna/Xtina Kiss. Her powerful Single Ladies performance (perhaps the best of all her Single Ladies performances) was the same night as Gaga's Paparazzi one.

 

But both the medleys she did in 2014 and 2016 stand as some of the most inventive and brilliant performances in the ceremony's history.

 

So even if not "water cooler moments" like the controversial other options, she very much is a worthy contender for the title, or certainly not deserving of being questioned for her inclusion on a list of possible Queens of the Ceremony, especially considering at least four have far less reason to be named that than Beyoncé.

 

 

[PopNStuff]

1 hour ago, X~MoviePoP said:

Britney is the blue print. So yes

LMAO, imagine saying this when she followed and modeled her career after Madonna and Janet.

 

Madonna is the rightful answer in terms of holding this title, although Britney does have iconic moments.

[swissman]

28 minutes ago, shyboi said:

 

 

But isn't the kiss the most famous madonna vma moment ever?

Depends who you ask, but either way it was:

• The opening slot offered to Madonna
• Creative freedom offered to Madonna
• Something Madonna casted
• Madonna's staging requests
• A reference to Madonna's iconic VMAs performance

 

This is VMAs Queen behaviour and treatment.

 

 

Edited September 12, 2023 by swissman

[Wildcat]

It's Madonna. "Like A Virgin" at the first VMAs is her MJ at Motown 25 / Beatles at Ed Sullivan Show career-defining moment.

 

 

She also has iconic moments in the 90s ("Vogue" as Marie Antoinette), the 00s (The kiss) and 3x more wins than Britney, so yeah.

[shyboi]

2 minutes ago, swissman said:

Depends who you ask, but either way it was:

• The opening slot offered to Madonna
• Creative freedom offered to Madonna
• Something Madonna casted
• Madonna's staging requests
• A reference to Madonna's iconic VMAs performance

 

This is queen behaviour at and for the VMAs and treatment from the VMAs.

 

Not denying Madonna's impact tho, but let's give some credit to Britney for how iconic that performance is. 

 

 

[Kimi]

Who cares they flopped

[swissman]

6 minutes ago, Rev8 said:

Madonna definitely MADE the VMAs

there is no arguing that

 

But time and time again, Britney has been the one to be used in their promos still to this day

she has like 4 iconic performances (more than some big artists combined) and they are still referenced till this day

 

 

Madonna is the creator

But ultimately - Britney has been more synonymous with them
(and I am both a Madge and Brit stan. Madge literally paved the way (in many ways too) so this shouldn't bother anyone)

Britney is an immensely important artist to the VMAs, but a lot of these reasons pale in comparison to actually creating the format that anyone in contention for the title of The Queen of the VMAs has followed. If Madonna had just set up the format and then never had anything iconic happen again, sure, but that's simply not the case. Her iconic moments span nearly 20 years.

 

As I just alluded to in another post above, in 2003 when the VMAs wanted something fun and splashy to introduce the show, they went to Madonna for that, and seemed to have given her carte blanche. That says a lot. She's very much the Queen of the VMAs.

[Breathe On Moi]

1 hour ago, Dula Peep said:

Queen of an irrelevant awards show? Sure, she can have it.   

don’t you dare! you’ve come such a long way!

[PoisonPill]

Yes, her and Madonna

[swissman]

9 minutes ago, shyboi said:

 

Not denying Madonna's impact tho, but let's give some credit to Britney for how iconic that performance is. 

 

 

For sure. It wouldn't have been so outrageous without Britney who at that time was the certified Princess of Pop. I wasn't trying to cut her out of it, but your question I thought was suggesting that Britney/Xtina's involvement meant that it was less a credit to Madonna.

 

However, given that 19 years after Madonna's VMAs debut they came to her to come up with an iconic moment for the top of the show says a lot about the trust and respect they had for her.