Alldeezy Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 I'm only saying Ren because was no music videos to it though her tour is doing well ... it would've done well even without an album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BnPac Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 People just rewrite history and measure everything in light of streams. There's no way Lemonade is her least successful album. The answer is obviously 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnMyCoolJ Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 did better in pure sales than most of the MPGs. only Adele (obviously) did significantly better that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Material Girl said: are we ignoring the gift and everything is love? those are the obvious answers The thread is obviously referring to her studio albums, so neither of those albums are relevant. That's like saying "I think it's actually her remix album". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnMyCoolJ Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 EIL is the only bey related release that underperformed and that's because they left it for dead after Apesh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaram Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 There are so many that it's hard to decided, but I guess the crown goes to Lemonade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, OnMyCoolJ said: 4 did better in pure sales than most of the MPGs. only Adele (obviously) did significantly better that year. That's not true. Rihanna did better in pure sales with two albums that year Loud and Talk That Talk. Gaga also did better with BTW. It sold significantly less than a lot of MPGs albums from that time: Taylor with Speak Now (2010) and Red (2012), Katy with Teenage Dream (2010) and Prism (2013), Adele obviously... I'm not sure who are the "most of the MPGs" you're talking about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 41 minutes ago, BnPac said: People just rewrite history and measure everything in light of streams. There's no way Lemonade is her least successful album. The answer is obviously 4. No. Lemonade had good pure sales for a 2016 release but that's not enough to make it more succesful in general. It has about the same pure sales as 4 but with much less streams and digital sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitaly Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 is her Bionic, her ARTPOP, although still serving more singles than these two albums combined. She just lost her dad as manager, still learning to self manage. It was divisive, I remember a lot of displeasure happened when Run The World leaked, cos it is just a major lazer song with her vocals on it. But overtimes it becomes iconic anthem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnMyCoolJ Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Axelios said: That's not true. Rihanna did better in pure sales with two albums that year Loud and Talk That Talk. Gaga also did better with BTW. It sold significantly less than a lot of MPGs albums from that time: Taylor with Speak Now (2010) and Red (2012), Katy with Teenage Dream (2010) and Prism (2013), Adele obviously... I'm not sure who are the "most of the MPGs" you're talking about. Neither one of those Rihanna albums sold more physical copies in the US of A. You bringing up a whole lot of albums that weren’t released in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnMyCoolJ Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Axelios said: No. Lemonade had good pure sales for a 2016 release but that's not enough to make it more succesful in general. It has about the same pure sales as 4 but with much less streams and digital sales. It obviously had less streams because it wasn’t available for streaming outside if Tidal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OnMyCoolJ said: Neither one of those Rihanna albums sold more physical copies in the US of A. You bringing up a whole lot of albums that weren’t released in 2011. They sold much more globally, this topic is not about only US sales. In the US, Taylor Swift's Speak Now sold much more in that year despite being a 2010 release. "4 did better in pure sales than most of the MPGs" doesn't make sense whether you're talking about only 2011 or the releases from near that time in general. Edited September 10, 2023 by Axelios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkLover1989 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Nobody is listening to Lemonade Atleast 4 has LOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idkwiam Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 OMG when you put it that way... She has so many failures 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkLover1989 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 hours ago, BnPac said: People just rewrite history and measure everything in light of streams. There's no way Lemonade is her least successful album. The answer is obviously 4. No one is rewriting history Lemonade simply was not remembered by most of the GP after 2016 She is on tour and that album could barely do 500k doesn't matter if song is on setlist or not ,that's low for successful album 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idkwiam Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Axelios said: That's not true. Rihanna did better in pure sales with two albums that year Loud and Talk That Talk. Gaga also did better with BTW. It sold significantly less than a lot of MPGs albums from that time: Taylor with Speak Now (2010) and Red (2012), Katy with Teenage Dream (2010) and Prism (2013), Adele obviously... I'm not sure who are the "most of the MPGs" you're talking about. Hive is so delusional wtf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpartyrocker Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 51 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said: No one is rewriting history Lemonade simply was not remembered by most of the GP after 2016 She is on tour and that album could barely do 500k doesn't matter if song is on setlist or not ,that's low for successful album What u on about delulu? Lemonade was a cultural reset and was the it album after 25. It’s not all about streams and #1s… 4 was obviously the least successful in terms of impact. It had some cute moments with run the world and love on top, but that’s about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpartyrocker Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Axelios said: No. Lemonade had good pure sales for a 2016 release but that's not enough to make it more succesful in general. It has about the same pure sales as 4 but with much less streams and digital sales. “It has about the same pure sales as 4” that alone proves it was more successful. Lemonade selling almost the same as 4 when pure sales were heavily declining is impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Jacobs Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 but it still did good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroonx Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 all of her albums have been huge successes, but '4' I guess get the least exposure. I love 4 so much though!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planet Mars Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Lemonade, it's a shining example of how to NOT run an era. For an album to be that celebrates and acclaimed and not even pull half a million streams daily speaks volumes. It's a forgotten album outside of the Hive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelios Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 3 hours ago, mrpartyrocker said: “It has about the same pure sales as 4” that alone proves it was more successful. Lemonade selling almost the same as 4 when pure sales were heavily declining is impressive. And Lemonade failing to have as much streams as 4 makes it less successful overall. The fact that it was Tidal exclusive boosted its pure sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BnPac Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 21 hours ago, FolkLover1989 said: No one is rewriting history Lemonade simply was not remembered by most of the GP after 2016 She is on tour and that album could barely do 500k doesn't matter if song is on setlist or not ,that's low for successful album But what does that have to do with the success at the moment it was released? Nothing. And you are also wrong : -Lemonade always has the 2nd (or 3rd) increase after Renaissance in percentage. It's just that those increases are weak because the singles were not available and are performing awfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balaban Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 All of her eras were big, but I would say Lemonade because it basically had the film + the tour and nothing more. 4 had an enduring impact and its songs are recognized everywhere, and the Mrs Carter Tour also helped. I don't see Lemonade songs performing out there like 4 songs does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machete Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 4 least successful at time of release but it was original Lover and made a comeback overtime. In fact according to CM, ST still hasn’t outsold it globally (although it’s beck and neck). Lemonade easily wins overall though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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