ahauntingnearu Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, magicfever said: I haven‘t seen such accusations against Jessie (not saying they don‘t exist!) but that‘s awful. I didn‘t mean to imply anything negative about her, i really like her and i always thought she is a genuine ally. I was just wondering what she‘s gonna do because her current single features Roisin. People like the goon below you love to speak out their ass about Jessie (and probably Jewish people in general) without really knowing ****. Come for people who actively do/say ill to the world, not to people you simply suspect are bad. (Not you bby, btw just in general )
Jooj Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Cain said: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwP-gMnIlz5/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Its not pinned anymore!!! Does anyone have a screenshot? Man Roisin needs to directly address this situation asap
liquiddiamonds Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 She can save us for any brand damage control excuses, especially when her album is right around the alley. We’ve seen enough.
shookspeare Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 Wonder if she'll get panned now when the album seemed like it was going to be acclaimed
Communion Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jooj said: Its not pinned anymore!!! Does anyone have a screenshot? Man Roisin needs to directly address this situation asap The account was some British lady named "Susan" but it looked like an alt account since it had only 3 posts that were all just anti-trans and someone theorized it was possibly an 2nd account for Roisin since apparently her alter ego is named Sue (?). When that got mentioned on Popjustice, the account freaked out and privatized all of its content. The account who made the comment she pinned: The comment she pinned: Obviously everything they've posted has also been debunked in this thread itself. If that's her alt account, even bigger yikes and outs the motives of all of these TERFs. "DON'T SOCIALLY AFFIRM THEM EITHER." It's never been about healthcare or health. 2
LOTF Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Cain said: I can’t believe she’s letting this be her whole thing She’s on the choo choo train to JK land This is so sad and heartbreaking
Headlock Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 @vadge Girl we see you still reacting to posts, why’d you suddenly get shy? Weren’t you begging for people to ~counter your arguments?~ Well, we all did, seems like you retreated to the shadows, come on out! Any more TERF-selected articles we can rip to shreds? It was fun! 8 4 2
Domination Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Communion said: The account was some British lady named "Susan" but it looked like an alt account since it had only 3 posts that were all just anti-trans and someone theorized it was possibly an 2nd account for Roisin since apparently her alter ego is named Sue (?). When that got mentioned on Popjustice, the account freaked out and privatized all of its content. The account who made the comment she pinned: The comment she pinned: Obviously everything they've posted has also been debunked in this thread itself. If that's her alt account, even bigger yikes and outs the motives of all of these TERFs. "DON'T SOCIALLY AFFIRM THEM EITHER." It's never been about healthcare or health. Interesting. I wonder if there’s any other posts Roisin has made on social that have the staircase in the profile photo or the cat plush.
ATRL Moderator madonnas Posted August 27, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted August 27, 2023 This is so sad these transphobic conspiracy theories spread like wildfire. 2
ATRL Moderator madonnas Posted August 27, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted August 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Communion said: The account was some British lady named "Susan" but it looked like an alt account since it had only 3 posts that were all just anti-trans and someone theorized it was possibly an 2nd account for Roisin since apparently her alter ego is named Sue (?). When that got mentioned on Popjustice, the account freaked out and privatized all of its content. The account who made the comment she pinned: The comment she pinned: Obviously everything they've posted has also been debunked in this thread itself. If that's her alt account, even bigger yikes and outs the motives of all of these TERFs. "DON'T SOCIALLY AFFIRM THEM EITHER." It's never been about healthcare or health. I’m having a really difficult time believing this isn’t her burner account tbh.
magicfever Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, madonnas said: I’m having a really difficult time believing this isn’t her burner account tbh. The only thing that makes me doubt this theory is that Roisin is famously never backtracking, right? Deleting/archiving posts on a burner account she already semi-acknowledged would kind of go against that. Spoiler Although the posts were pretty damning…
sunbathinganimal Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 i refuse to believe that that's her burner account but if it is
Domination Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, sunbathinganimal said: i refuse to believe that that's her burner account but if it is Even if it’s not she pinned the comment
sunbathinganimal Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Domination said: Even if it’s not she pinned the comment i know, which is bad enough, but if it turns out she has a TERF burner account
ATRL Moderator madonnas Posted August 27, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted August 27, 2023 39 minutes ago, magicfever said: The only thing that makes me doubt this theory is that Roisin is famously never backtracking, right? Deleting/archiving posts on a burner account she already semi-acknowledged would kind of go against that. Reveal hidden contents Although the posts were pretty damning… I get what you are saying but do we really know that much about her personal life in that way?
Beyonnaise Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 With JK falling down the anti-trans rabbit hole, it kinda makes sense why she wouldn’t care about the impact to her reputation because Harry Potter is so widely beloved. But isn’t Roisin’s only fanbase very online LGBT underground music fans? Fascinating that publicly sharing her views mattered more to her than losing goodwill from the only people who liked her.
HonourableVomit Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, ahauntingnearu said: Plus Jessie has shown a respect and acknowledgment for the base that supports her; she doesn't know everything but has proven herself an ally and interested to learn. I have to respect that - unlike the other banshee of discussion And until 4 days ago, so had Roisin. It's a sobering reminder that there are no perfect allies and even those who have been welcomed into our community are vulnerable to misinformation. I don't believe the burner account thing at all (it's also possible the posts got removed because people were reporting them) and she has never really had an "alter ego" she just does tiktoks with face filters on playing characters sometimes, there are like 5 different ones. The PopJustice thread got way out of hand and had to be closed, I don't think it's the place to go for an accurate overview of this topic. The pinned comment and even the vague idea of "transing our gay youth" is completely stupid and reprehensible though. I am so shocked/disappointed by her. The silence was concerning but I had hoped it was because she was seeking advice from her friends within the community, now it doesn't seem like she's interested in learning at all. That ******* sucks. Edited August 27, 2023 by HonourableVomit 2
Communion Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, HonourableVomit said: The PopJustice thread got way out of hand and had to be closed Huh? The thread got closed not cause it "got out of hand" nor cause it "had to be" but because her pinning the comment made it clear she was defending her transphobia and basically sealed the deal for most. Most former fans were calling for it to be closed to no longer give her promo, like the forum does often with problematic pop stars, ie: you can't make threads for Melanie Martinez, or for Camila on there because topics about her have been banned for her racism. The mods literally renamed the title "ROISIN MURPHY - TRANSPHOBE". The point about the account whose comment she pinned isn't if it is her burner account (though when checking, it does belong to someone with a British phone number), but that the comment from a random account that had 4 likes is what she decided to pin, ignoring the dozens of comments by fans, many with 100+ likes, asking her to please clarify that she doesn't hate trans people. 4 1
HonourableVomit Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Communion said: The point about the account whose comment she pinned isn't if it is her burner account (though when checking, it does belong to someone with a British phone number), but that the comment from a random account that had 4 likes is what she decided to pin, ignoring the dozens of comments by fans, many with 100+ likes, asking her to please clarify that she doesn't hate trans people. She obviously pinned the comment she agreed with, and it had so few likes because it's ******* stupid and by far the minority opinion. It's not like she pinned it right after it was posted either, it was days old. I'm not defending her, there is enough actual evidence of her spreading transphobic misinformation here without having to jump to conjecture. Also I can guarantee there's no shortage of transphobic old hags named Susan in the UK. 2
ATRL Moderator madonnas Posted August 28, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, HonourableVomit said: She obviously pinned the comment she agreed with, and it had so few likes because it's ******* stupid and by far the minority opinion. It's not like she pinned it right after it was posted either, it was days old. I'm not defending her, there is enough actual evidence of her spreading transphobic misinformation here without having to jump to conjecture. Also I can guarantee there's no shortage of transphobic old hags named Susan in the UK. I do think it’s more likely to be her burner but well most likely never know. Either way…
ahauntingnearu Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 2 hours ago, HonourableVomit said: And until 4 days ago, so had Roisin. It's a sobering reminder that there are no perfect allies and even those who have been welcomed into our community are vulnerable to misinformation. I don't believe the burner account thing at all (it's also possible the posts got removed because people were reporting them) and she has never really had an "alter ego" she just does tiktoks with face filters on playing characters sometimes, there are like 5 different ones. The PopJustice thread got way out of hand and had to be closed, I don't think it's the place to go for an accurate overview of this topic. The pinned comment and even the vague idea of "transing our gay youth" is completely stupid and reprehensible though. I am so shocked/disappointed by her. The silence was concerning but I had hoped it was because she was seeking advice from her friends within the community, now it doesn't seem like she's interested in learning at all. That ******* sucks. Sadly it's true. I can't see that in Jessie at all to be like this but I'm sure people would have said the same about roisin if roles were reversed. I'd be disgusted either way tbh 1
Jooj Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 9 hours ago, Communion said: The account was some British lady named "Susan" but it looked like an alt account since it had only 3 posts that were all just anti-trans and someone theorized it was possibly an 2nd account for Roisin since apparently her alter ego is named Sue (?). When that got mentioned on Popjustice, the account freaked out and privatized all of its content. The account who made the comment she pinned: The comment she pinned: Obviously everything they've posted has also been debunked in this thread itself. If that's her alt account, even bigger yikes and outs the motives of all of these TERFs. "DON'T SOCIALLY AFFIRM THEM EITHER." It's never been about healthcare or health. What a mess, this lowkey becoming a rabbit hole... I dont think that instagram acc is hers but if it is then thats really problematic. She could just remain silent if thats her take on trans people.
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