base talk NYT lists songs from 'pop music middle class' that deserve to be hits

[The7thStranger]

The quality of writing at the New York Times has taken such a profound hit that I don't consider it a cornerstone of journalism or publishing. It's a few steps above a trash rag at this point.

[TomTom]

They are disgusting for the Kesha paragraph.

[brenda-walsh]

i get what they're trying to say, but i don't understand why artists can't make pop music that isn't top 40 successful. 

 

like what is the need that we feel every popstar or pop song has to be a huge radio smash and if not, its not worthy of consumption or adoration 

[Walk_Away21]

1 hour ago, mystery said:

The most questionable thing about this article is the claim that there is significant online conversation and a devoted fanbase around Rita Ora.

Yet you are literally an unknown, flopass forum user who RAN here to post her name. Make it make sense.

[Walk_Away21]

1 hour ago, Beyonnaise said:

Where is the lie? None of the artists mentioned are A-list megastars.

 

True, yeah. It feels dated in that sense, like maybe in 2012 when Jay-Z was touting her as the next Rihanna  

But who was claiming they are? What is the point of the article? Worms for brains writing.

[SecretSecret]

12 minutes ago, Mocha said:

They lowkey are the real winners of the fame/success lottery

Carly's career must be the dream for anyone that makes music. A megahit that pays the bills for the rest of her life, and the ability to basically do whatever she wants without the pressure of being a MPG, with critical appreciation and a niche audience that loves her and will always be eager to listen to her new releases.

 

It just seems much more satisfying than dealing with all the headaches of being a ultra famous pop star.

[Walk_Away21]

2 minutes ago, SecretSecret said:

Carly's career must be the dream for anyone that makes music. A megahit that pays the bills for the rest of her life, and the ability to basically do whatever she wants without the pressure of being a MPG, with critical appreciation and a niche audience that loves her and will always be eager to listen to her new releases.

 

It just seems much more satisfying than dealing with all the headaches of being a ultra famous pop star.

Exactly. I love Taylor but could you imagine dealing with the stalking, hordes if you walk outside your house, not being able to walk into the grocery store alone, etc.

[Cesar]

not gonna lie, they ate that 

[supaspaz]

2 hours ago, Virgos Groove said:

[citation needed]

May I direct to the podcast Who? Weekly

[supaspaz]

2 hours ago, Katamari said:

I don’t really see this as a dragging article tbh

Me neither. ATRL always seems to be lacking basic reading comprehension. If it's not "Yassss queen slayed boots downe!!!!" then it must be a drag.

[samsclubPRESENTSavam]

I would rather listen to a middle class pop girl than an upper one that runs her perfectly fine albums into the ground but okay.

[Into The Void]

Middle class is the best class 

[aesthetic bih]

Well, that "middle class pop" is better than streaming white flavorless men music

[Nights]

Yeah so what exactly is the point of this article now? That some artists exist who aren't the megastar A-listers and that those artists also have fans, and that's somehow something to make fun of? Kinda weird...

[Archetype]

2 hours ago, WEEKND said:

Well none of those girls are one of one 

Caroline has been making music and selling out concerts for over FIFTEEN YEARS and is more successful, relevant, and impactful than ever before despite being almost 40 and not making commercial music.  She could quite literally tour her two solo albums for the rest of her life and we (her fans) would be happy to support her.  This article is funny but it completely ignores that indie artists somehow remain relevant and booked despite all of the odds being against them in the streaming era.

[TaylorFantasy]

3 hours ago, Virgos Groove said:

[citation needed]

 

3 hours ago, mystery said:

The most questionable thing about this article is the claim that there is significant online conversation and a devoted fanbase around Rita Ora.

Seeing these two posts got reported, maybe Rita does have a devoted fanbase after all

[Blue Jeans]

“Pop’s middle class” is my favorite because these artists don’t have the pressure of huge pop stars and can prioritize music over bling but still stay popular because of their talent

[Matthew4815]

This mess

[WEEKND]

29 minutes ago, Archetype said:

Caroline has been making music and selling out concerts for over FIFTEEN YEARS and is more successful, relevant, and impactful than ever before despite being almost 40 and not making commercial music.  She could quite literally tour her two solo albums for the rest of her life and we (her fans) would be happy to support her.  This article is funny but it completely ignores that indie artists somehow remain relevant and booked despite all of the odds being against them in the streaming era.

I don’t care 

[Digitalism]

So they are admiting they give more hype to certain artist and less to others not because of the quality but because it doesn't get clicks? We been knew 

[TYMPS]

nytimes been a rag for a minute, but this is a new low

[Archetype]

20 minutes ago, WEEKND said:

I don’t care 

Then don’t speak on subjects you don’t understand 

[glacier76]

I don’t think this article dragged these artists? Seemed pretty complimentary, to me. Why would someone like Carly want fans that accuse her of homophobia for not posting during Pride Month, or complain about lacking visuals during an album release, or gossip that she has joined a cult, or question the choice of partners? 

[Taylucifer]

at least they didn’t do too much on Rina 

[vale9001]

5 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

A lot of these publications are to blame. They’ve basically spent the last decade venerating Taylor and Beyoncé while paying artists like Cupcakke, Charli, and Carly dust. 

Taylor and Beyoncé didn't became gigantic cause when they were little artista they have cover on new York Times. Stop being completely fool.

Billie Eilish and Dua lipa are bigger than Carly cause people decide It Is cause they like her music.

 

Also Gaga Is exactly in the category of the major mainstream popstars often  celebrated more than actual talent because she's very famous (poptism ideology). 

You got pieces about her jazz albums while real jazz singers didn't get It. 

Edited August 15, 2023 by vale9001