TayDuaStan Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) Is It Over Now? & Say Don’t Go are easily top 10 in Taylor’s discography! Just wow. The production, the lyrics INSANE!!!! And yeah, Jack’s not going anywhere. He needs to be the main producer on TS11. I need this dream pop sound for that record Edited October 27, 2023 by TayDuaStan 1
Holy Ground Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Klein said: Oh really? Why do I recall Run being pushed on streaming? Maybe it was playlisted a bit but not on TTH specifically. It was definitely pushed! 1
burninredhot Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 Vault tracks are all growers and bops we still need Jack banished from TS11 tho
Timeless Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, TayDuaStan said: Is It Over Now? & Say Don’t Go are easily top 10 in Taylor’s discography! Just wow. The production, the lyrics INSANE!!!! And yeah, Jack’s not going anywhere. He needs to be the main producer on TS11. I need this dream pop sound for that record Girl Midnights is already filled with dream-pop sounds. ENOUGH!!!
By the Water Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 I’m not sure people realize that most of these were recorded around the same time as Midnights
SpeakNowTv Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 42 minutes ago, PopA911 said: I just got confirmation that my Tangerine Vinyl is getting delivered today. I’ll be listening to Sweeter Than Jesus later @SpeakNowTv @1989 stop im the most jealous rn
LiamVillain Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 sweeter than fiction tv is fine (I only listened to the original twice)
ahauntingnearu Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 She didn't used to sing the (verse) melodies so low or breathy (and melodies weren't quite as monotonous) until later in her discog. I don't buy into the stupid "the vault tracks are newly written" theory se people throw out. But these ones are definitely unlike the rest of 1989. Like she just wasn't writing for her voice like that back then. Idk, does anyone know what I mean
SinnerCity Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, sbenci said: I like the vault tracks but none of them are clear highlights like I Can See You or Nothing New imo! My thoughts exactly, they’re ok but I was expecting bangers the way she said she couldn’t believe she left them out of original. I’m still unsure about this album and I will have to play it in full a few more times to form a concrete opinion about it but I’m not head over heels. So far IMO Red TV > Speak Now TV > Fearless TV > 1989 TV
burninredhot Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 You guys are being over dramatic about Style TV. There's only like a 5% difference from the OG 2
LiamVillain Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Klein said: Run was on TTH. I think I remember ICSY being on it too. Could be wrong about that one. 9 minutes ago, By the Water said: I don’t think either of them were. ATW10 was put on TTH but it took a week for that to happen Run was on TTH tho Red is her fav child Edited October 27, 2023 by LiamVillain
Timeless Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, By the Water said: I’m not sure people realize that most of these were recorded around the same time as Midnights Wildest Dreams TV was recorded in 2021 so I assume most of the album was also recorded then as well. 1
TaylenaStan Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 Rank Song 1 This Love 2 Clean 3 Welcome To New York 4 You Are In Love 5 Out Of The Woods 6 I Wish You Would 7 Wildest Dreams 8 All You Had To Do Was Stay 9 I Know Places 10 Wonderland 11 Shake It Off 12 Say Don't Go 13 How You Get The Girl 14 Is It Over Now? 15 Blank Space 16 Now That We Don't Talk 17 ****! 18 Bad Blood 19 Suburban Legends 20 New Romantics 21 Style This is NOT my fav song ranking (Stylesus (Stolen Version) is literally my #1 19katy9 song), but just solely based on how good she rerecorded the tracks Not surprising that the Ryan/Jack songs were rerecorded way better than the Max tracks This Love is the biggest improvement easily overall tho
liquiddiamonds Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 The Vault tracks were never finished products in their era. She has rewritten them. Even for the features. How would she make Nothing New fit Phoebe Bridgers’ voice when Phoebe wasn’t even a thing back then. I don’t think Taylor would waste Max Martin’s hours with half baked demos. They had leftovers that became the original deluxe tracks. Maybe **** and others were just Taylor and her guitar or lyrics written down from around that time and she reworked them with the Midnights sonic headspace
By the Water Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Timeless said: Wildest Dreams TV was recorded in 2021 so I assume most of the album was also recorded then as well. Imogen posted about working on Clean in October 2022 so I doubt she did everything else in 2021
cat1867 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, liquiddiamonds said: The Vault tracks were never finished products in their era. She has rewritten them. Even for the features. How would she make Nothing New fit Phoebe Bridgers’ voice when Phoebe wasn’t even a thing back then. I don’t think Taylor would waste Max Martin’s hours with half baked demos. They had leftovers that became the original deluxe tracks. Maybe **** and others were just Taylor and her guitar or lyrics written down from around that time and she reworked them with the Midnights sonic headspace Forever Winter is an almost perfect copy of a demo. fearless vault are copies of debut era songs that leaked long ago. Diane Warren has talked about finishing a song with Taylor for years. It makes perfect sense that she would have demos from songs she worked on with Jack. Cutting songs from albums is very normal. Also the target deluxe was released at the same time as the og album and was never an afterthought as target was where she sold the most albums. New Romantics and Wonderland weren't leftovers but songs earmarked for target . 3
SpeakNowTv Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 just listened to a recording of STF TV in lq and why is it lowkey one of the tracks that turned out the best?
cat1867 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, SpeakNowTv said: just listened to a recording of STF TV in lq and why is it lowkey one of the tracks that turned out the best? Because jack is a better producer than chris rowe.
liquiddiamonds Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 Also the sounds Taylor is working in the vault songs were actually really trendy in 2013. That was peak Chromatics and Chillwave era. The whole 1989 is as much as a love letter for the 80s as for the tumblr era. Midnights is actually the album that arches back to the era with some hip hop influenced production in some songs. Reminder that Taylor was out and around Brooklyn for 1989 and most of these bands were big there 1
harry_bev Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 This is excellent. Style is a miss which is a shame considering it’s my fave. Out of the Woods - somehow BETTER? Shake it Off - I LIKE IT AGAIN NOW Clean - v different, not in a bad way. Vault tracks - excellent. Not loving Sl*t but had she not used a ! I would’ve managed my expectations better.
LiamVillain Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 she won't promote the album huh? no music video, no concert, no talkshow, no performance
Julián Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 Oh wow i just started it and welcome to new york and blank space are upgraded.
Cloröx Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) People blaming Jack for almost everything but at the same time stan hard on songs that are actually produced by him. Makes it makes sense, worms for the brain Edited October 27, 2023 by Cloröx 4 1 1
Timeless Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 I don't think 1989 had many solid outtakes honestly...with only 5 vault tracks and one of them being unfinished (Now That We Don't Talk missing a final chorus), it all makes sense.
Itsaliability Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, ahauntingnearu said: She didn't used to sing the (verse) melodies so low or breathy (and melodies weren't quite as monotonous) until later in her discog. I don't buy into the stupid "the vault tracks are newly written" theory se people throw out. But these ones are definitely unlike the rest of 1989. Like she just wasn't writing for her voice like that back then. Idk, does anyone know what I mean Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (and inform me on the matter), but doesn't Scott already know about the existence of these demos? As the label was paying for studio time with producers, and Taylor couldn't legally hide anything from them, regardless of what was shelved or not? Or could Taylor just not submit to the label what she didn't deem as worth it? Cuz if it's the first option then he wouldve already run to the media and burn her at the stake trying to ruin her-owning my old work purpose.
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