ImsoLOUD Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Raspberries said: What does her make up, panties, thongs, plants, clothes, kitchenware, furniture, sneakers, etc. have to do with people not wanting to spend more than $1.99 on her music? She was literally almost bankrupt because of her accountant and how little she was actually getting from her music Right and now she’s richer than Taylor no matter where the $$$ is coming from, so what is your point?
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, rihannafan said: I also used weekly charts, which is the most objective thing you can use. Love story was bigger in the anglosphere where it sold most of its units. Diamonds is undeniably bigger globally, which is what those charts show. Weekly charts don't mean **** when your song is remembered and continues to move units I broke it down by pure sales, Spotify streams and YouTube views. Actual data and not chart peaks. And you're still arguing 1
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ImsoLOUD said: Right and now she’s richer than Taylor no matter where the $$$ is coming from, so what is your point? She's "richer" than Taylor because of her make up, not her music Not a single soul is mentioning net worth here (even though Taylor will be a billionaire solely from her music in a matter of months). I mentioned nobody wanting to spend more than $1.29 on Rihanna music and you're bringing up net worth due to make up and underwear Edited August 9, 2023 by Raspberries
rihannafan Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, Raspberries said: Weekly charts don't mean **** when your song is remembered and continues to move units I broke it down by pure sales, Spotify streams and YouTube views. Actual data and not chart peaks. And you're still arguing "Weekly charts don't matter" Ok official charts don't matter but MJ Dangerous' sales figures do, sure! the reality is at least 4-5 songs are bigger than any Taylor song, going by weekly charts. It's part of the reason Taylor stans are envious of This is what you came for.
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, rihannafan said: I also used weekly charts, which is the most objective thing you can use. Love story was bigger in the anglosphere where it sold most of its units. Diamonds is undeniably bigger globally, which is what those charts show. Weekly chart peaks don't mean ****. Those can be heavily manipulated. You are taking them at face value which would insinuate craziness like Trollz, a #1 song, being bigger than Bad Romance, a #2 song. Diamonds was bigger in Europe and Latin America. Love Story was bigger in North America, Asia and Oceania
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 We've now devolved into using only weekly chart peaks when discussing what songs are bigger. First it was only certifications. Now it's chart peaks Absolute lunacy
rihannafan Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Raspberries said: We've now devolved into using only weekly chart peaks when discussing what songs are bigger. First it was only certifications. Now it's chart peaks Absolute lunacy Ah yes the lunacy is citing the country's official charts. Once again you ignore the middle east and Africa. Anyway, I am done with this because you lie a lot and micharacterize so many arguments, it is exhausting. Not to mention that you called someone else Low IQ for absolutely no reason.
#ADOU Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 Diamonds is a global clasic. Nobody cares about Love Story outside the US. Can't beleive this is even a discussion.
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, rihannafan said: Ah yes the lunacy is citing the country's official charts. Once again you ignore the middle east and Africa. Anyway, I am done with this because you lie a lot and micharacterize so many arguments, it is exhausting. Not to mention that you called someone else Low IQ for absolutely no reason. Africa has 1 or 2 real charts (South Africa). And ZERO major music markets. Why would I include it? The Middle East is lumped in with Asia. And Love Story was bigger overall in Asia. It continues to be bigger as it is curb stomping Rihanna's entire catalog there You are the one lying. You're using chart peaks at face value to determine what was bigger - despite having the actual data being broken down into multiple metrics are still choosing to ignore it Edited August 9, 2023 by Raspberries
rihannafan Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, #ADOU said: Diamonds is a global clasic. Nobody cares about Love Story outside the US. Can't beleive this is even a discussion. Diamonds has 21M plays on anghami. Love story has 7.5M like... But sure, Love story was bigger in Asia (if Asia = 3 countries). The intellectual dishonesty is too much
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, #ADOU said: Diamonds is a global clasic. Nobody cares about Love Story outside the US. Can't beleive this is even a discussion. And yet Love Story outsold and is currently outstreaming Sounds like you just choose to be ignorant and completely incorrect
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 Navy: (Insert forgotten Rihanna song here) is bigger than any Taylor Swift song ever Multiple people: Actually, (insert multiple Taylor Swift songs here) has outsold and outstreamed that Rihanna song Navy: 3
#ADOU Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Raspberries said: And yet Love Story outsold and is currently outstreaming Sounds like you just choose to be ignorant and completely incorrect Daily streams don't mean anything. This is what you people dont understand. Style has more daily streams than We Found Love, but is it bigger? Diamonds is one of the biggest songs of the last 15 years. Its a worldwide classic. Love Story is not. When its all said and done Diamonds will be more remembered than Love Story. This is a fact.
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, #ADOU said: Daily streams don't mean anything. This is what you people dont understand. Style has more daily streams than We Found Love, but is it bigger? Diamonds is one of the biggest songs of the last 15 years. Its a worldwide classic. Love Story is not. When its all said and done Diamonds will be more remembered than Love Story. This is a fact. We aren't talking just daily streams here. We Found Love is bigger than Style. It both outsold and out streamed it. Love Story was not bigger than WFL initially, but it is more remembered. It's gone viral multiple times and has amazing streams for a 2008 country song Love Story sold 3M more pure than Diamonds and out streamed it on Spotify despite being absent for years. Diamonds is only bigger on YouTube What exactly are you not understanding here? Edited August 9, 2023 by Raspberries
#ADOU Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Raspberries said: We aren't talking just daily streams here. We Found Love is bigger than Style. It both outsold and out streamed it. Love Story was not bigger than WFL initially, but it is more remembered. It's gone viral multiple times and has amazing streams for a 2008 country song Love Story sold 3M more pure than Diamonds and out streamed it on Spotify despite being absent for years. Diamonds is only bigger on YouTube What exactly are you not understanding here? Don't most of those Love Story sales come from the US? Love Story may be bigger than Diamonds in the US, but definitely not worldwide. There's nothing you can do to convince me otherwise. Diamonds probably went #1 in more countries than all of Taylor's singles combined. Buttt "daily streams"
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, #ADOU said: Don't most of those Love Story sales come from the US? Love Story may be bigger than Diamonds in the US, but definitely not worldwide. There's nothing you can do to convince me otherwise. Diamonds probably went #1 in more countries than all of Taylor's singles combined. Buttt "daily streams" I've literally said LS was bigger in North America, Asia and Oceania while Diamonds was bigger in South America and Europe. It's not my fault you don't bother to read the prior responses by others in this thread
rihannafan Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, rihannafan said: Diamonds has 21M plays on anghami. Love story has 7.5M like... But sure, Love story was bigger in Asia (if Asia = 3 countries). The intellectual dishonesty is too much *Insert I can't read meme* You have ignored the many charts I have posted from Africa and the middle east since yesterday 1
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, rihannafan said: *Insert I can't read meme* You have ignored the many charts I have posted from Africa and the middle east since yesterday Love Story was massive in SE Asia and continues to be I thought you weren't responding anymore? :
airplane Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) This is still ongoing? The nerve of raspberry to discuss hits like Rihanna didn’t give his fave the biggest hit of her career in Europe and in several other countries, her best-selling hit in America since 2014 etc etc There’s a reason Calvin ran to Rihanna instead of his own girlfriend because only Rihanna can deliver a GLOBAL SMASH HIT. Edited August 9, 2023 by airplane
airplane Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Raspberries said: Love Story was massive in SE Asia and continues to be I thought you weren't responding anymore? : For every Taylor “hit”, Rihanna has 10 Global smashes. You can stick to the 4-5 you have though, including her biggest hit in Europe which was sang by Rihanna Edited August 9, 2023 by airplane
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 Just now, airplane said: For every Taylor “hit”, Rihanna has 10 extra Global smashes. You can stick to the 4-5 you have though, including her biggest hit in Europe which was sang by Rihanna Did those 10 extra global smashes help Rihanna sell more than Taylor in North America, Asia or Oceania? Did it help her get a $200M+ tour? Taylor has 3
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, airplane said: This is still ongoing? The nerve of raspberry to discuss hits like Rihanna didn’t give his fave the biggest hit of her career in Europe and in several other countries, her best-selling hit in America since 2014 etc etc There’s a reason Calvin ran to Rihanna instead of his own girlfriend because only Rihanna can deliver a GLOBAL SMASH HIT. We've been over this and you have been corrected. Taylor is the one who gave Rihanna that hit seeing as she's the one who actually created the song. A foreign concept to Rihanna fans, I know And wasn't that same song bigger than any ANTI single in Europe Edited August 9, 2023 by Raspberries 1
airplane Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, Raspberries said: Love Story was not bigger than WFL initially, but it is more remembered. It's gone viral multiple times and has amazing streams for a 2008 country song Do you not get tired of writing fanfics?
Raspberries Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, airplane said: Do you not get tired of writing fanfics? You're the one basing **** on feelings and vibes here. I've used nothing but actual data and statistics
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