lonnie Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, rihannafan said: 150 thousand people in morocco too And that was just one day too and broke yet another record with that show too. But that's still Africa and the continent doesn't count according to the swifties 1 minute ago, Raspberries said: She ran to Dr. Luke and Stargate instead Max Martin has more number ones to his name than Taylor, StarGate and Dr. Luke combined. It's clear who's the producer to run to for a hit 2 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: I doubt it would be a very wise desicion to add more songwriters to already existing 70 at the time when she went bankrupt not so long ago This doesn't even make sense love, its not songwriters that led to her financial crisis? 2 minutes ago, Raspberries said: Mind you, Stargate had multiple smashes with other artists before Rihanna got her first #1 with them (Take A Bow) All the lies here _ Stargate did not have multiple smashes before Rihanna, they were certainly not on Max Martin's level - 6/10 of Stargate's No. 1s have Rihanna's name on it - S.O.S. which was released 3 years before Take A Bow (and was not produced by Stargate) was Rihanna's first number one. Don't y'all get tired with your lies? 1
airplane Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Raspberries said: Mind you, Stargate had multiple smashes with other artists before Rihanna got her first #1 with them (Take A Bow) And Rihanna ended up giving them 5 more #1s after that, the same way she gave your fave the biggest hit of her career in Europe and one of her Top 3 biggest international hits. Talk about chaRIHty Edited August 8, 2023 by airplane
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, rihannafan said: Here's an article from 2007, from Reuters no less, about how Rihanna helped Stargate break into the US https://www.reuters.com/article/us-stargate/norwegian-production-duo-breaks-big-in-u-s-idUSN3031038020061030 Yes, she definitely did. Her first #1 produced by them Take A Bow definitely eclipses songs like Irreplaceable, So Sick, Beautiful Liar, Because of You, With You, etc 1
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, airplane said: And Rihanna ended up giving them 5 more #1s after that, the same way she gave your fave the biggest hit of her career in Europe and her Top 3 biggest international hits. Talk about chaRIHty The way you continue to get this backwards. Taylor gave Rihanna the song, seeing as she created it Rihanna has never given anyone anything musically because she does not write, produce or compose 2
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, lonnie said: _ Stargate did not have multiple smashes before Rihanna, they were certainly not on Max Martin's level - 6/10 of Stargate's No. 1s have Rihanna's name on it - S.O.S. which was released 3 years before Take A Bow (and was not produced by Stargate) was Rihanna's first number one. Don't y'all get tired with your lies? Before their first #1 with Rihanna (Take A Bow) #1 Irreplaceable #1 So Sick #2 Because of You #2 With You #3 Beautiful Liar #7 Sexy Love #8 Tattoo #10 I Belong to Me I never claimed TAB was her first #1. I said it was her first #1 with Stargate Edited August 8, 2023 by Raspberries 1
rihannafan Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Raspberries said: Yes, she definitely did. Her first #1 produced by them Take A Bow definitely eclipses songs like Irreplaceable, So Sick, Beautiful Liar, Because of You, With You, etc Did you read the article? It references unfaithful not Take a bow. Unfaithful was a big hit
airplane Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Raspberries said: The way you continue to get this backwards. Taylor gave Rihanna the song, seeing as she created it Rihanna has never given anyone anything musically because she does not write, produce or compose Rihanna’s impeccable vocal tone and star power made that song a hit though Edited August 8, 2023 by airplane 1
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, rihannafan said: Did you read the article? It references unfaithful not Take a bow. Unfaithful was a big hit Unfaithful, the song that came out after #1 hit So Sick?
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, airplane said: Rihanna’s impeccable voice and star power made that song a hit though No, I think it was the person that actually, ya know, created the song. Not the girl that showed up and sang like she does on all of her other songs 2
lonnie Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, Raspberries said: Before their first #1 with Rihanna (Take A Bow) #1 Irreplaceable #1 So Sick #2 Because of You #2 With You #3 Beautiful Liar #7 Sexy Love #8 Tattoo #10 I Belong to Me I never claimed TAB was her first #1. I said it was her first #1 with Stargate Girl who cares when Rihanna had already worked with them before any of these except Neyo's So Sick? Unfaithful blatantly missing from this list but Tattoo featuring on it?
airplane Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, Raspberries said: No, I think it was the person that actually, ya know, created the song. Not the girl that showed up and sang like she does on all of her other songs Is a singer not supposed to sing now?
rihannafan Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Raspberries said: Unfaithful, the song that came out after #1 hit So Sick? They were released 6 months apart. You acted like rihanna ran to them because they were established. Not surprised you are mischaracterizing this considering Taylor lied about TIWYCF, why she removed her songs from spotify, her situation with Scooter, etc. I'll take an article from 2007 about rihanna helped make stargate a thing over your opinion
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, airplane said: Is a singer not supposed to sing now? Songs given to them by other people in Rihanna's case
rihannafan Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, airplane said: Is a singer not supposed to sing now? You have to forgive them considering their fave only whispers (can never hear her in any of the eras tour clips)
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, rihannafan said: They were released 6 months apart. You acted like rihanna ran to them because they were established. Not surprised you are mischaracterizing this considering Taylor lied about TIWYCF, why she removed her songs from spotify, her situation with Scooter, etc. I'll take an article from 2007 about rihanna helped make stargate a thing over your opinion Rihanna ran back to dance pop when Rated R tanked. This is not debatable Do you have actual receipts for the bolded? And no DailyMail/The National Enquirer **** either
Kill Me Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, rihannafan said: Rude Boy, Keri's Lose Control, Nicole's Right There, All these songs are written by Ester Dean.. LMAO If anything Ester Dean set the trend by writing songs with that flavor. Cheap thrills and Side To Side were released in 2016 and was not at all influenced by a forgotten song from 2011. You tried it. It is Ester Dean's continous hits on pop radio throughout early 2010s with Keri, Nicole, Keyshia and other one hit wonders that led to the tropical carribean sound trend in 2016. I know that Rihanna is not much different from your awful karaoke singer from down the street and by that I mean she is a talentless loser who copies everything from the demo singer from the attitude to the accent to minor vocal inflections without changing or adding anything of her own but that doesn't erase whatever flavor the original songwriters brought to the song which helped create the trends of pop music with their continous work behind the scenes. 3 1
lonnie Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Raspberries said: Unfaithful, the song that came out after #1 hit So Sick? So Sick is a classic R&B song, but it's nowhere near as big as the MONSTER hits Max Martin had produced before Taylor recorded with him: Baby One More Time Ooops... I Did It Again DJ Got Us Fallin In Love So What etc
rihannafan Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Raspberries said: Rihanna ran back to dance pop when Rated R tanked. This is not debatable Do you have actual receipts for the bolded? And no DailyMail/The National Enquirer **** either Rihanna also helped make dancepop a thing again, releasing dance pop songs since 2006. Taylor wouldn't know as she's busy ripping off lana del rey 1 1
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Miss Americana said: All these songs are written by Ester Dean.. LMAO If anything Ester Dean set the trend by writing songs with that flavor. Cheap thrills and Side To Side were released in 2016 and was not at all influenced by a forgotten song from 2011. You tried it. It is Ester Dean's continous hits on pop radio throughout early 2010s with Keri, Nicole, Keyshia and other one hit wonders that led to the tropical carribean sound trend in 2016. I know that Rihanna is not much different from your awful karaoke singer from down the street and by that I mean she is a talentless loser who copies everything from the demo singer from the attitude to the accent to minor vocal inflections without changing or adding anything of her own but that doesn't erase whatever flavor the original songwriters brought to the song which helped create the trends of pop music with their continous work behind the scenes. Oh my
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, rihannafan said: Rihanna also helped make dancepop a thing again, releasing dance pop songs since 2006. Taylor wouldn't know as she's busy ripping off lana del rey Dance pop was not the dominant sound in America until 2009/2010 when Gaga and BEP got their monster dance smashes. Numerous other pop stars had success with dance songs here and there (consistently in Europe), but it was never a trend Rihanna was not releasing dance pop in 2009/early 2010. Rated R is not a dance album. The album bombed in comparison to GGGB and only gave 1 real hit: Rude Boy. Her label then threw her back in the studio to record trendy electropop/dance songs that sounded like what Gaga, Katy, Kesha, BEP, Usher etc. were all doing Bold of you to talk about ripping off when Rihanna just emulates demo singers Edited August 8, 2023 by Raspberries 1
rihannafan Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Miss Americana said: All these songs are written by Ester Dean.. LMAO If anything Ester Dean set the trend by writing songs with that flavor. Cheap thrills and Side To Side were released in 2016 and was not at all influenced by a forgotten song from 2011. You tried it. It is Ester Dean's continous hits on pop radio throughout early 2010s with Keri, Nicole, Keyshia and other one hit wonders that led to the tropical carribean sound trend in 2016. I know that Rihanna is not much different from your awful karaoke singer from down the street and by that I mean she is a talentless loser who copies everything from the demo singer from the attitude to the accent to minor vocal inflections without changing or adding anything of her own but that doesn't erase whatever flavor the original songwriters brought to the song which helped create the trends of pop music with their continous work behind the scenes. Ester dean, another person that said she owed her career to Rihanna
rihannafan Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, Raspberries said: Dance pop was not the dominant sound in America until 2009/2010 when Gaga and BEP got their monster dance smashes. Numerous other pop stars had success with dance songs here and there (consistently in Europe), but it was never a trend Rihanna was not releasing dance pop in 2009/early 2010. Rated R is not a dance album. The album bombed in comparison to GGGB and only gave 1 real hit: Rude Boy. Her label then threw her back in the studio to record trendy electropop/dance songs that sounded like what Gaga, Katy, Kesha, BEP, Usher etc. were all doing Bold of you to talk about ripping off when Rihanna just emulates demo singers ?? Disturbia, SOS and Don't stop the music don't exist I guess.
lonnie Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Miss Americana said: All these songs are written by Ester Dean.. LMAO If anything Ester Dean set the trend by writing songs with that flavor. Ester Dean is from Oklahoma, U.S.A. How was she setting Caribbean sounding trends without Rihanna? Her songs for other artists: Usher, Mary J Blige, even Katy Perry sound nothing like the Caribbean infused sound she had with Rihanna. And not swifties resorting to cheap insults because they're getting clocked each way
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, rihannafan said: ?? Disturbia, SOS and Don't stop the music don't exist I guess. Did you just not read the rest of my post? I literally said numerous pop stars had some success with dance music here and there, but it was not the dominant sound until the very end of the decade/start of the new decade Rihanna/her label tried to buck that trend, she ended up bombing and then they ended up hopping on the exact trend they were going against
lonnie Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Raspberries said: Rihanna/her label tried to buck that trend, she ended up bombing Rihanna had 1 number one hit and two top ten hits from Rated R. What are you talking about?
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