lonnie Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: And even with fewer global hits Taylor is now outstreaming Again how wouldn't Taylor be outstreaming Rihanna when she's released over 10 albums since Rihanna last released?
airplane Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, wastedpotential said: So instead of comparing two musical artists based on the success of their music, you’re choosing to compare them based on how successful their retirement projects have been? Sorry Taylor actually likes making music and didn’t get bored of phoning it in Isn’t taylor about to debut some garbage film soon? We’ll see how that goes for her
rihannafan Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Axelios said: Blank Space and SIO are bigger than Work in pretty much any metric you can think of. Outside of poland, work did better asically everywhere despite being in patois and not really a pop song Work: Chart (2016–2017) Peak position Australia (ARIA)[82] 5 Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[83] 14 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[84] 6 Belgium R&B/Hip-Hop (Ultratop Flanders)[85] 1 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[86] 1 Brazil (Billboard Hot 100)[87] 61 Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[88] 1 Colombia (National-Report)[89] 4 Czech Republic (Singles Digitál Top 100)[90] 3 Denmark (Tracklisten)[91] 1 Dominican Republic (Monitor Latino)[92] 13 Finland (Suomen virallinen lista)[93] 10 France (SNEP)[94] 1 Germany (Official German Charts)[95] 5 Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[96] 37 Hungary (Single Top 40)[97] 7 Ireland (IRMA)[98] 2 Israel (Media Forest)[99] 7 Italy (FIMI)[100] 5 Japan (Japan Hot 100)[101] 42 Mexico Airplay (Billboard)[102] 2 Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[103] 2 Netherlands (Single Top 100)[104] 1 New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ)[105] 2 Norway (VG-lista)[106] 4 Panama (Monitor Latino)[107] 7 Poland (Polish Airplay Top 100)[108] 52 Portugal (AFP)[109] 1 Scotland (OCC)[110] 5 Slovakia (Singles Digitál Top 100)[111] 1 South Africa (EMA)[112] 1 South Korea International Chart (Gaon)[113] 28 Spain (PROMUSICAE)[114] 2 Sweden (Sverigetopplistan)[115] 2 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[116] 9 UK Singles (OCC)[117] 2 UK Hip Hop/R&B (OCC)[118] 1 US Billboard Hot 100[119] 1 US Dance Club Songs (Billboard)[120] 1 US Dance/Mix Show Airplay (Billboard)[121] 2 US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs (Billboard)[122] 1 Blank Space: Chart (2014–2015) Peak position Australia (ARIA)[38] 1 Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[124] 6 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[125] 13 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[126] 26 Brazil (Billboard Hot 100)[127] 59 Bulgaria (IFPI)[47] 3 Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[39] 1 Canada AC (Billboard)[128] 2 Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[129] 1 Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[130] 1 CIS (TopHit)[131] 84 Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[48] 4 Euro Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[42] 1 Finland Airplay (Radiosoittolista)[132] 3 Finland Download (Latauslista)[43] 1 France (SNEP)[133] 27 Germany (Official German Charts)[134] 9 Greece Digital Songs (Billboard)[135] 2 Hungary (Single Top 40)[136] 7 Iceland (RÚV)[137] 1 Ireland (IRMA)[49] 4 Israel (Media Forest)[50] 4 Italy (FIMI)[138] 27 Italy Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[139] 10 Japan (Japan Hot 100)[140] 45 Lebanon (Lebanese Top 20)[52] 5 Luxembourg Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[141] 4 Mexico Airplay (Billboard)[142] 2 Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[143] 17 Netherlands (Single Tip)[144] 3 New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ)[44] 2 Poland (Polish Airplay Top 100)[45] 2 Portugal Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[145] 5 Romania (Airplay 100)[146] 34 Scotland (OCC)[41] 1 Slovakia (Rádio Top 100)[46] 2 Slovenia (SloTop50)[147] 9 South Africa (EMA)[40] 1 South Korea International Singles (Gaon)[148] 54 Spain (PROMUSICAE)[149] 16 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[150] 12 Ukraine Airplay (TopHit)[151] 66 UK Singles (OCC)[51] 4 US Billboard Hot 100[152] 1 1
Finkypop Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 The Navy getting stomped all over this thread (as usual) OT: Taylor #1, Adele #2, Bey #3, Rihanna #4, Gaga #5 1 1
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, lonnie said: Delusional So bigger? Okay? Only Girl charted higher literally almost everywhere than Blank Space lol This simply means Blank Space has more streams. And congratulations to Taylor for that Blank Space has moved more units than Only Girl. It is bigger and more remembered Style is more remembered than Only Girl - hence it accumulating 817M streams in 6 years as compared to Only Girl accumulating 799M in 13 years 1 1
The Music Industry Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, lonnie said: Again how wouldn't Taylor be outstreaming Rihanna when she's released over 10 albums since Rihanna last released? And again you can take out all those albums and she's still outstreaming comfortably thanks to an iconic back catalogue 2
modeblock Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 The monsters will never let that soundtrack go, huh? OT: Taylor Beyoncé Rihanna Adele _____ ___________ __________________ Gaga
lonnie Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, The Music Industry said: Is the Navy down so bad they only acknowledge pure sales now? Work From Home also has more YouTube views than We Found Love, does that make it the bigger song? Only Girl: Australia (ARIA)[85] 1 Australian Urban (ARIA)[86] 1 Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[87] 1 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[88] 2 Belgium Dance (Ultratop Flanders)[89] 2 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[90] 1 Belgium Dance (Ultratop Wallonia)[91] 2 Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[30] 1 CIS (TopHit)[92] 14 Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[93] 5 Denmark (Tracklisten)[94] 2 Europe (European Hot 100 Singles)[95] 1 Finland (Suomen virallinen lista)[96] 2 France (SNEP)[97] 2 Germany (Official German Charts)[98] 2 Hungary (Dance Top 40)[99] 4 Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[100] 1 Ireland (IRMA)[101] 1 Italy (FIMI)[102] 1 Japan (Japan Hot 100)[103] 8 Luxembourg Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[104] 2 Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[105] 2 Netherlands (Single Top 100)[106] 2 New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ)[107] 1 Norway (VG-lista)[108] 1 Poland (Polish Airplay Top 100)[109] 1 Poland (Dance Top 50)[110] 1 Portugal Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[111] 1 Romania (Romanian Top 100)[112] 3 Romania (Romanian Radio Airplay)[113] 1 Romania (Romania TV Airplay)[114] 1 Russia Airplay (TopHit)[115] 22 Scotland (OCC)[49] 1 Slovakia (Rádio Top 100)[116] 1 Spain (PROMUSICAE)[117] 2 Sweden (Sverigetopplistan)[118] 2 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[119] 2 UK Singles (OCC)[120] 1 Ukraine Airplay (TopHit)[121] 31 US Billboard Hot 100[122] 1 Blank Space: Australia (ARIA)[38] 1 Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[124] 6 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[125] 13 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[126] 26 Brazil (Billboard Hot 100)[127] 59 Bulgaria (IFPI)[47] 3 Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[39] 1 Canada AC (Billboard)[128] 2 Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[129] 1 Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[130] 1 CIS (TopHit)[131] 84 Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[48] 4 Euro Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[42] 1 Finland Airplay (Radiosoittolista)[132] 3 Finland Download (Latauslista)[43] 1 France (SNEP)[133] 27 Germany (Official German Charts)[134] 9 Greece Digital Songs (Billboard)[135] 2 Hungary (Single Top 40)[136] 7 Iceland (RÚV)[137] 1 Ireland (IRMA)[49] 4 Israel (Media Forest)[50] 4 Italy (FIMI)[138] 27 Italy Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[139] 10 Japan (Japan Hot 100)[140] 45 Lebanon (Lebanese Top 20)[52] 5 Luxembourg Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[141] 4 Mexico Airplay (Billboard)[142] 2 Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[143] 17 Netherlands (Single Tip)[144] 3 New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ)[44] 2 Poland (Polish Airplay Top 100)[45] 2 Portugal Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[145] 5 Romania (Airplay 100)[146] 34 Scotland (OCC)[41] 1 Slovakia (Rádio Top 100)[46] 2 Slovenia (SloTop50)[147] 9 South Africa (EMA)[40] 1 South Korea International Singles (Gaon)[148] 54 Spain (PROMUSICAE)[149] 16 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[150] 12 Ukraine Airplay (TopHit)[151] 66 UK Singles (OCC)[51] 4 US Billboard Hot 100[152] 1 Only Girl went number one, top five, top ten in more countries than Blank Space. It's really not that hard to see how it's the bigger hit, Taylor does indeed have more streams and congrats to her on that
iamanearthling Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Taylor is the number 1 obviously. The navy are still trying it ha. Lols
wastedpotential Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: Is the Navy down so bad they only acknowledge pure sales now? They should be very careful going that route considering Rih’s record-shattering album sales
Finkypop Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, airplane said: 😂😂😂😂 Taylor’s albums were bombing worldwide until this decade, Give it up Deelishis. Not even you believe this
lonnie Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: And again you can take out all those albums and she's still outstreaming comfortably thanks to an iconic back catalogue That's only if we act like the constant releases, TikTok's popularity influencing streaming and Taylor getting preferential treatment there doesn't affect the streams of the other albums. How were they doing pre-2019? Certainly not what they're doing now I know that for sure
wastedpotential Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, airplane said: Isn’t taylor about to debut some garbage film soon? We’ll see how that goes for her Yes, she’s directing a high budget motion picture for a major film studio. I’m not sure how that compares to the Avon products Rihanna has been creating.
rihannafan Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, wastedpotential said: They should be very careful going that route considering Rih’s record-shattering album sales More record-shattering than Taylor outside the US. In fact, rihanna's 4 best selling albums sold mote outside the US than Taylor's 25 albums combined 1
The Music Industry Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, lonnie said: Work From Home also has more YouTube views than We Found Love, does that make it the bigger song? Only Girl: Australia (ARIA)[85] 1 Australian Urban (ARIA)[86] 1 Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[87] 1 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[88] 2 Belgium Dance (Ultratop Flanders)[89] 2 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[90] 1 Belgium Dance (Ultratop Wallonia)[91] 2 Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[30] 1 CIS (TopHit)[92] 14 Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[93] 5 Denmark (Tracklisten)[94] 2 Europe (European Hot 100 Singles)[95] 1 Finland (Suomen virallinen lista)[96] 2 France (SNEP)[97] 2 Germany (Official German Charts)[98] 2 Hungary (Dance Top 40)[99] 4 Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[100] 1 Ireland (IRMA)[101] 1 Italy (FIMI)[102] 1 Japan (Japan Hot 100)[103] 8 Luxembourg Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[104] 2 Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[105] 2 Netherlands (Single Top 100)[106] 2 New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ)[107] 1 Norway (VG-lista)[108] 1 Poland (Polish Airplay Top 100)[109] 1 Poland (Dance Top 50)[110] 1 Portugal Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[111] 1 Romania (Romanian Top 100)[112] 3 Romania (Romanian Radio Airplay)[113] 1 Romania (Romania TV Airplay)[114] 1 Russia Airplay (TopHit)[115] 22 Scotland (OCC)[49] 1 Slovakia (Rádio Top 100)[116] 1 Spain (PROMUSICAE)[117] 2 Sweden (Sverigetopplistan)[118] 2 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[119] 2 UK Singles (OCC)[120] 1 Ukraine Airplay (TopHit)[121] 31 US Billboard Hot 100[122] 1 Blank Space: Australia (ARIA)[38] 1 Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[124] 6 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[125] 13 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[126] 26 Brazil (Billboard Hot 100)[127] 59 Bulgaria (IFPI)[47] 3 Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[39] 1 Canada AC (Billboard)[128] 2 Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[129] 1 Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[130] 1 CIS (TopHit)[131] 84 Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[48] 4 Euro Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[42] 1 Finland Airplay (Radiosoittolista)[132] 3 Finland Download (Latauslista)[43] 1 France (SNEP)[133] 27 Germany (Official German Charts)[134] 9 Greece Digital Songs (Billboard)[135] 2 Hungary (Single Top 40)[136] 7 Iceland (RÚV)[137] 1 Ireland (IRMA)[49] 4 Israel (Media Forest)[50] 4 Italy (FIMI)[138] 27 Italy Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[139] 10 Japan (Japan Hot 100)[140] 45 Lebanon (Lebanese Top 20)[52] 5 Luxembourg Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[141] 4 Mexico Airplay (Billboard)[142] 2 Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[143] 17 Netherlands (Single Tip)[144] 3 New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ)[44] 2 Poland (Polish Airplay Top 100)[45] 2 Portugal Digital Song Sales (Billboard)[145] 5 Romania (Airplay 100)[146] 34 Scotland (OCC)[41] 1 Slovakia (Rádio Top 100)[46] 2 Slovenia (SloTop50)[147] 9 South Africa (EMA)[40] 1 South Korea International Singles (Gaon)[148] 54 Spain (PROMUSICAE)[149] 16 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[150] 12 Ukraine Airplay (TopHit)[151] 66 UK Singles (OCC)[51] 4 US Billboard Hot 100[152] 1 Only Girl went number one, top five, top ten in more countries than Blank Space. It's really not that hard to see how it's the bigger hit, Taylor does indeed have more streams and congrats to her on that So... Sticking to pure sales and peaks? It's giving.... lemme not 1 1
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, lonnie said: Work From Home also has more YouTube views than We Found Love, does that make it the bigger song? No, because Pure sales: We Found Love - 12.7M Work From Home - 4.3M Spotify: We Found Love - 1.25B Work From Home - 1.3B YouTube: We Found Love - 1B Work From Home - 2.7B We Found Love has moved a significant amount more overall units than Work From Home
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, rihannafan said: More record-shattering than Taylor outside the US. In fact, rihanna's 4 best selling albums sold mote outside the US than Taylor's 25 albums combined Now break the numbers down by continent and give them to us 1
wastedpotential Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, The Music Industry said: So... Sticking to pure sales and peaks? It's giving.... lemme not Madonna fans called… the 80s and 90s girls want their arguments back I know Rihanna’s musical career peaked in 2009-2010 but there’s no reason to keep using outdated metrics because of that.
rihannafan Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Raspberries said: Now break the numbers down by continent and give them to us A continent that has 54 countries you mean (none of which taylor was relevant in for 80% of her career)? Taylor's home country is the US, rihanna's isn't. Edited August 8, 2023 by rihannafan
airplane Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, wastedpotential said: Yes, she’s directing a high budget motion picture for a major film studio. I’m not sure how that compares to the Avon products Rihanna has been creating. The movie will be nothing short of a disaster. Perched for the lashings she’s about to receive for her corny attempt at “filmmaking”
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, rihannafan said: A continent that has 54 countries you mean? Taylor's home country is the US, rihanna's isn't. Rihanna made European dance pop for years, Taylor didn't Taylor also outsold Rihanna on the most populous continent on Earth
Raspberries Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, airplane said: The movie will be nothing short of a disaster. Perched for the lashings she’s about to receive for her corny attempt at “filmmaking”
lonnie Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, Finkypop said: Give it up Deelishis. Not even you believe this Actually prior to 1989 Taylor had only sold 5.3M outside the U.S. despite having released 4 albums, a lot less compared to her peers then so the user isn't totally wrong
Odeon Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 11 hours ago, joannna said: Taylor is effortlessly eclipsing Madonna and is on her way to eclipsing MJ and The Beatles. adding her to this list is ridiculous. a telling metric of their success is their latest albums' opening week: 1. Taylor 1.5 million 2. Adele 839k 3. Beyoncé 332k 4. Lady Gaga 275k 5. Rihanna 126k quite accurate. all of them are pop Queens in their own right Let's talk about worldwide debut sales, because the US ain't the only country in the world: 1. Adele - 30: 1.586M 2. Taylor - Speak Now (TV): 893k 3. Gaga - Chromatica: 487k 4. Beyoncé - Renaissance: 415k 5. Rihanna - Anti: 193k Chromatica came in at #18 on the 2020 IFPI list while Renaissance came in at #17 on last year's list, nearly equal positions, although Renaissance got way more promotion and radio airplay. Fun Fact: Gaga was the #12 biggest artist of 2020 (#4 among female artists) when she dropped her latest studio album, while Beyoncé was OUT of the top 20 last year's biggest artists when she released her latest studio album, according to the IFPI, making it clear that Gaga has a much fresher and more consumed catalog.
wastedpotential Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, airplane said: The movie will be nothing short of a disaster. Perched for the lashings she’s about to receive for her corny attempt at “filmmaking” We’ll revisit this when it comes out
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