base talk Taylor, Gaga, Bey, Rih, Adele - biggest?

[Raspberries]

9 minutes ago, lonnie said:

Not really. Only a swiftie would actually sit here and convince themselves that Style is bigger than any Rihanna song. I really don't think I can say anything here, maybe you are right and Style is bigger and remembered than any Rih song. Probably than any other song released by another female artist too ?

 

Who said Style was bigger than any Rihanna song? 

 

The only argument going on is Style (and Blank Space) being more remembered than Only Girl

[airplane]

1 minute ago, wastedpotential said:

Girl, I can’t change the fact that Rihanna is musically lazy and hasn’t bothered releasing. We can’t account for the what if scenarios. All we can do is look at the numbers on the ground, and in 2023, those numbers show Taylor blasting past Rihanna  with ease. I can’t help what the numbers were in 2018 or 2019. In 2023, Taylor is astronomically bigger. Sorry if you can’t handle that. 

“Taylor blasting past Rihanna” maybe because Rihanna retired last decade? It’s honestly funny how swifties love using the new ammo they’ve accumulated from her recent releases. The comparisons won’t make sense because one is musically active and the other isn’t. If you want to compare, do it when they were both musically active.

[The Music Industry]

3 minutes ago, airplane said:

Taylor’s albums were bombing worldwide until this decade

You're a troll.... right?

 

[airplane]

2 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

1989 was extremely global, what are you talking about  

compared to MIDnights?

[Feanor]

2 minutes ago, airplane said:

😂😂😂😂

 

Taylor’s albums were bombing worldwide until this decade, unlike Rihanna who was accumulating around 65% of her album units from outside the USA, which explains her poor BB 200 performance. 

Then what explains Rihanna's poor performance on the IFPI chart the last time she released an album?
How come those 65% overseas units couldn't even make her one of the 5 most popular artists of that year?

 

[lonnie]

3 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

Only Girl on Spotify 10 days following the Super Bowl: 45-53-74-77-84-101-141-155-180-188

Style's last 10 days on Spotify: 63-59-57-48-49-48-44-43-39-35

Blank Space last 10 days: 61-57-55-52-48-41-40-42-41-42

 

Mind you, Rihanna performed in front of 110,000,000 people and surprised everyone with her pregnancy and covered magazines in the following days

Taylor has just been on tour and walking around LA  

And yet:

252. Only Girl 7.538.000

365. Blank Space 6.603.000

N/A Style

 

http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm

 

And using Only Girl which wasn't the song that got the best surge after the SB. No surprise here

 

 

[Axelios]

1 minute ago, airplane said:

compared to MIDnights?

Midnights is more global than any Rihanna album

[Raspberries]

Just now, airplane said:

compared to MIDnights?

1989 is bigger than any Rihanna era ever

 

Midnights is harder to compare since it's less than a year old - but it's still for sure bigger than every Rihanna album minus GGGB and Loud  

[The Music Industry]

5 minutes ago, airplane said:

Taylor blasting past Rihanna” maybe because Rihanna retired last decade?

And that's our problem because...?

 

Taylor was already ahead of Rihanna on an album-to-album basis even before retirement. By the end of Taylor's 6th era, she already moved more global units than Rihanna, who had a longer career and 8 albums at that point. After that the gap only got bigger as Taylor herself got bigger. 

 

Y'all just need to deal with it already, jeez.

 

Edited August 8, 2023 by The Music Industry

[airplane]

Just now, Feanor said:

Then what explains Rihanna's poor performance on the IFPI chart the last time she released an album?
How come those 65% overseas units couldn't even make her one of the 5 most popular artists of that year?

 

ANTI and its hits were mostly US-centric but still did around half of its activity outside the US. 6X Platinum in the US vs 11M units worldwide 

[airplane]

2 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Midnights is more global than any Rihanna album

Elaborate on this reach 

Edited August 8, 2023 by airplane

[rihannafan]

Just now, airplane said:

ANTI and its hits were mostly US-centric but still did around half of its activity outside the US. 6X Platinum in the US vs 11M units worldwide 

Work is easily bigger than any Taylor song outside the US

[Axelios]

Just now, airplane said:

ANTI and its hits were mostly US-centric but still did around half of its activity outside the US. 6X Platinum in the US vs 11M units worldwide 

So it's more local and less successful than Reputation and Lover. That's good to know.

[wastedpotential]

5 minutes ago, airplane said:

“Taylor blasting past Rihanna” maybe because Rihanna retired last decade? It’s honestly funny how swifties love using the new ammo they’ve accumulated from her recent releases. The comparisons won’t make sense because one is musically active and the other isn’t. If you want to compare, do it when they were both musically active.

And yet the entire point of this thread is to compare and rank them, and at this point in time the comparison and ranking is cut and dry. Sorry she’s retired and all, but I can’t help that 

[Raspberries]

Just now, lonnie said:

And yet:

252. Only Girl 7.538.000

365. Blank Space 6.603.000

N/A Style

 

http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm

 

And using Only Girl which wasn't the song that got the best surge after the SB. No surprise here

 

 

Not Mediatraffic after your fellow Navies just spent pages discrediting IFPI and spent 20+ pages trying to discredit Chartmasters in another thread  

 

Pure sales:

Only Girl - 9M

Blank Space - 7.1M

 

Spotify:

Only Girl - 799M

Blank Space - 1.39B

 

YouTube:

Only Girl - 915M

Blank Space - 3.2B

 

 

[Axelios]

Just now, rihannafan said:

Work is easily bigger than any Taylor song outside the US

Blank Space and SIO are bigger than Work in pretty much any metric you can think of.

[rihannafan]

Just now, wastedpotential said:

And yet the entire point of this thread is to compare and rank them, and at this point in time the comparison and ranking is cut and dry. Sorry she’s retired and all, but I can’t help that 

And we can't help that chart wise, none of taylor's songs are global hits 

[airplane]

4 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

And yet the entire point of this thread is to compare and rank them, and at this point in time the comparison and ranking is cut and dry. Sorry she’s retired and all, but I can’t help that 

The point of this thread was to compare and rank them and decide who’s bigger, but not restricted to their musical success. 

Edited August 8, 2023 by airplane

[Feanor]

2 minutes ago, airplane said:

“Taylor blasting past Rihanna” maybe because Rihanna retired last decade? It’s honestly funny how swifties love using the new ammo they’ve accumulated from her recent releases. The comparisons won’t make sense because one is musically active and the other isn’t. If you want to compare, do it when they were both musically active.

We already did a few pages ago:

4 hours ago, Feanor said:

Rihanna on the IFPI Top Artist chart in 2016, with 7 catalog albums and 1 new album: #8

 

Taylor on the same chart in…

2014: #1 (4 catalog albums & 1 new one)

2015: #3 (5 catalog albums & no new one)

2017: #3 (5 catalog albums & 1 new one)

2019: #1 (6 catalog albums & 1 new one)

Take away those "recent releases" and Taylor still showcased a stronger global commercial performance than Rihanna when she was last musically active.

 

[wastedpotential]

1 minute ago, rihannafan said:

And we can't help that chart wise, none of taylor's songs are global hits 

And even with fewer global hits Taylor is now outstreaming (and has always been outselling) Rihanna. I guess that at the end of the day, global hits don’t matter as much as y’all want them to if Taylor is still so much bigger in spite of that fact. 

[Axelios]

1 minute ago, rihannafan said:

And we can't help that chart wise, none of taylor's songs are global hits 

Why did none of Rihanna streaming era songs have more overall streams than "local" Blank Space?

[wastedpotential]

Just now, airplane said:

The point of this thread was to compare and rank them, but not restricted to their musical success. 

So instead of comparing two musical artists based on the success of their music, you’re choosing to compare them based on how successful their retirement projects have been? Sorry Taylor actually likes making music and didn’t get bored of phoning it in 

[lonnie]

Just now, Axelios said:

So it's more local and less successful than Reputation and Lover. That's good to know.

Delusional

 

 

1 minute ago, Raspberries said:

Pure sales:

Only Girl - 9M

Blank Space - 7.1M

So bigger?

 

2 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

Not Mediatraffic after your fellow Navies just spent pages discrediting IFPI and spent 20+ pages trying to discredit Chartmasters in another thread

Okay? Only Girl charted higher literally almost everywhere than Blank Space lol

 

3 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

Spotify:

Only Girl - 799M

Blank Space - 1.39B

 

YouTube:

Only Girl - 915M

Blank Space - 3.2B

This simply means Blank Space has more streams. And congratulations to Taylor for that

 

[airplane]

4 minutes ago, Axelios said:

Blank Space and SIO are bigger than Work in pretty much any metric you can think of.

Her last few hits until Rihanna showed her what a global smash hit looks like with TIWYCF. No wonder calvin was scrambling 

[The Music Industry]

Just now, lonnie said:

So bigger?

 

Is the Navy down so bad they only acknowledge pure sales now?