celeb news noah schnapp deletes Palestinian comments from his Israel posts

[besaid]

1 minute ago, Jjang said:

oh, shut the **** up already. 

 

When helpless Palestinians violently resist a foreign nuclear power army coming to brutalize them and conquer their lands - they are called antisemitic terrorists. 

 

When Palestinians non-violently urge the global community to cut funds to Israel or support boycott movements such as BDS - they are called antisemitic economic terrorists. 

 

When Palestinians state that seeing settlers enjoy the perks of automatic citizenship on the land that they were expelled from and cannot return to (even though the LAW says it's their fundamental human right to return) - they are called antisemitic for simply having feelings.

 

No matter what Palestinians do, people like you are always going to stand in the way of their liberation. And to that, I say: **** you. 

 

I'm not talking about any of this with you after this nutso reply. I'm not "standing" in anyone's way by recognizing that calling Jewish people Nazis is blatantly antisemitic. 

[Jjang]

2 minutes ago, besaid said:

I'm not talking about any of this with you after this nutso reply. I'm not "standing" in anyone's way by recognizing that calling Jewish people Nazis is blatantly antisemitic. 

There are academic and scholar Jews of the atmost highest degree calling their fellow Israeli men Nazi and fascist-like. 

 

And please, you decided to skip ALL of this thread's content and focus on what you chose to focus on. Your stance is clear sweetie. 

Edited July 22, 2023 by Jjang

[Jaguarqueef]

No offense, but I mean I get it?

 

I’m still pro Palestinian sovereignty; I used to be more vocal but a Palestinian man I dated did my grimy.

 

Not to say he can’t be criticized, but why is anyone surprised that a white Jewish man supports Israel? 
 

Were people shocked that Boer and White South Africans supported the apartheid government?

A wealthy actor is never going to be an ally in any revolution.

 

[Brunette Ambition]

11 minutes ago, Daddy said:

I didn’t know. Didn't change anything. Zionism is trash and its fans do serve Nazis. Don't act brand new, Zionists turned into their biggest enemies. Sad.

I’m sorry but it’s crazy to call Jews nazis. It absolutely downplays the holocaust and the prosecution of Jews. And that’s why we will continue to call those „anti-ZIONIST“ people out for what they are: antisemites hiding behind progressivism.

 

the situation in Israel is completely different from Nazi Germany.

[Jjang]

1 minute ago, Brunette Ambition said:

I’m sorry but it’s crazy to call Jews nazis. It absolutely downplays the holocaust and the prosecution of Jews. And that’s why we will continue to call those „anti-ZIONIST“ people out for what they are: antisemites hiding behind progressivism.

 

the situation in Israel is completely different from Nazi Germany.

ok, then they are fascists. 

[Daddy]

3 minutes ago, Brunette Ambition said:

I’m sorry but it’s crazy to call Jews nazis. It absolutely downplays the holocaust and the prosecution of Jews. And that’s why we will continue to call those „anti-ZIONIST“ people out for what they are: antisemites hiding behind progressivism.

 

the situation in Israel is completely different from Nazi Germany.

You're not gonna gaslight me, telling me I'm antisemitic because I hate how Zionists are calling for the killings of innocent people. How they throw innocent families out of their homes. Scaring them with military and put them in open cages. 

 

It's too easy. Lemme call them fascists from now on.

[besaid]

4 minutes ago, Jjang said:

There are academic and scholar Jews of the atmost highest degree calling their fellow Israeli men Nazi and fascist-like. 

 

And please, you decided to skip ALL of this thread's content and focus on what you chose to focus on. Your stance is clear sweetie. 

Yes, my stance is very clear and as is my opinion on this conflict. I am just always shocked at the antisemitic conspiracies about Jews being Nazis popping up everywhere - even pop music forums - hence my comment noting it all over this thread. If you're fine with that being spread everywhere, that makes your stance clear.

[Jjang]

4 minutes ago, Jaguarqueef said:

 I used to be more vocal but a Palestinian man I dated did my grimy.

You felt comfortable sharing that. Love that for you! 

 

[Jjang]

Just now, besaid said:

Yes, my stance is very clear and as is my opinion on this conflict. I am just always shocked at the antisemitic conspiracies about Jews being Nazis popping up everywhere - even pop music forums - hence my comment noting it all over this thread. If you're fine with that being spread everywhere, that makes your stance clear.

 

2 minutes ago, Jjang said:

ok, then they are fascists. 

 

[Brunette Ambition]

Just now, Daddy said:

You're not gonna gaslight me, telling me I'm antisemitic because I hate how Zionists are calling for the killings of innocent people. How they throw innocent families out of their homes. Scaring them with military and put them in open cages. 

 

It's too easy.

It’s not gaslighting to point out that you use antisemitic rhetoric. 
 

Hate Israel all you want idgaf but especially as a German I hope you reevaluate your choice of words. 

[besaid]

^ Yeah I guess I'll just pretend I didn't read any of those conspiracy theories now that you covered it up with a new word to say what you really want to say? 

 

Anyway, these topics are always supercharged and people should be careful about what they're spreading about Jews and Palestinians when discussing. 

[Daddy]

1 minute ago, Brunette Ambition said:

It’s not gaslighting to point out that you use antisemitic rhetoric. 
 

Hate Israel all you want idgaf but especially as a German I hope you reevaluate your choice of words. 

Maybe I came in too hot, it's just so ugly to see the similarities in history. ESPECIALLY as a German that learned about the Holocaust for MANY years in school and college. I wanna apologise for dropping the word Nazi like it's nothing but let's not act like the writing isn't on the wall for the future of Palestine and Israel. I clearly don't hate Jewish people, the terror just isn't right.

[britxbrit]

Maybe Doja was right.

[Jjang]

14 minutes ago, Daddy said:

Maybe I came in too hot, it's just so ugly to see the similarities in history. ESPECIALLY as a German that learned about the Holocaust for MANY years in school and college. I wanna apologise for dropping the word Nazi like it's nothing but let's not act like the writing isn't on the wall for the future of Palestine and Israel. I clearly don't hate Jewish people, the terror just isn't right.

Here's an article, in Hebrew, by an Israeli historian, in an Israeli newspaper, who also happens to be a Holocaust survivor, comparing Israel's racism to Nazism: 

 

https://www.haaretz.co.il/2018-01-18/ty-article-opinion/.premium/0000017f-dbd9-d3ff-a7ff-fbf9adb40000

 

I can quite literally, and by that I am literally challenging people to dare me, post 100+ more articles by Jewish Israelis like this. 

 

Don't let them gaslight you into thinking making that comparison is utterly wrong. It's not. Israel has been getting more and more fascist by the year. 

 

I also need to make another distinction. 

 

This is not a "right-wing" Israeli government Issue. The left in Israel is also pro-occupation and pro-apartheid. It's a shared value amongst the majority of Jewish Israelis. And that's precisely why the only anti-occupation political party in Israel (Mertez) didn't even pass the threshold in the last election. Israeli society is wildly racist. It's time to freely admit that.

Edited July 22, 2023 by Jjang

[ForgottenSoul]

35 minutes ago, Jjang said:

The sheer magnitude of ignorance...jeez. 

 

Hamas (which Israel funded in the 80s as a way to tackle a more secular Palestinian political party) operates from the illegally besieged Gaza, there are 5 million other Palestinians residing outside of Gaza who don't have an army on the ground defending them. and guess what? Israel's army still subjects them to apartheid laws, ethnic cleansing, home demolitions, segregation, collective punishment, restricts their movement, torture, and just overall astonishingly horrendous living conditions.

 

And second of all, Palestinians don't have to be perfect victims in order for them to be victims. International LAW says they are victims of an illegal military occupation. Humans Rights Watch, as well as Amnesty International, as well as every single human rights organization to ever exist in the world and inside of Israel, accuses Israel of the crime of apartheid against Palestinians. 

 

Believe it or not, Palestinians can not be angels and still have every right to resist getting colonized. Crazy right? 

How am I being ignorant when I literally said what Isreal is doing is bad.. I don't know why you're acting so triggered. I literally said I wish the fighting would stop what else do you want.. Hamas is still a part of Palestinian no amount of wording will change that. 

Edited July 22, 2023 by ForgottenSoul

[Jjang]

Just now, ForgottenSoul said:

How am I being ignorant when I literally said what Isreal is doing is bad.. I don't know why you're acting so triggered. I literally said I wish the fighting would stop what else do you want..

Because you're putting equal blame on Palestinians. That's why. 

[ForgottenSoul]

Just now, Jjang said:

Because you're putting equal blame on Palestinians. That's why. 

No, I have not said oh they are both equal? I just said both are violent which they are.. not on equal terms but they have both done violent acts. 

[Jjang]

Just now, ForgottenSoul said:

No, I have not said oh they are both equal? I just said both are violent which they are.. not on equal terms but they have both done violent acts. 

So, using your logic: Ukraine does not deserve our sympathy because the people are fighting back? 

Enslaved black people or those who lived under Jim Crow laws do not deserve solidarity because they violently resisted?

JEWISH PEOPLE under the nazi regime who were violently resisting (Warsaw uprising etc) do not deserve our solidary because of the mere violence?

 

Very interesting take. 

[besaid]

12 minutes ago, Jjang said:

This is not a "right-wing" Israeli government Issue. The left in Israel is also pro-occupation and pro-apartheid. It's a shared value amongst the majority of Jewish Israelis. And that's precisely why the only anti-occupation political party in Israel (Mertez) didn't even pass the threshold in the last election. Israeli society is wildly racist. It's time to freely admit that.

And Palestinian society is free of racism, antisemitism and antigay hate?  What is the point in even mentioning this unless to smear the Jewish population of the only majority Jewish place on earth? The demand that we be blind to Hamas and the racism and homophobia of Palestine are what make these type of comments thinly veiled little antisemitic swipes 

[Communion]

2 hours ago, Gaia said:

Isn’t he Jewish? What’s the issue?

What would you call someone who believes their ethnicity entitled them to a pre-destined portion of land in the world and that said land belonged only to them and people of their ethnicity? 

[AvadaKedavra]

I would comment about this but this should be discussed between Israelis and Palestinians.
Theyre the ones livin there and facing all the problems  

Edited July 22, 2023 by AvadaKedavra

[Communion]

1 minute ago, besaid said:

the only majority ____________ place on earth? 

Is ethno-nationalism a good thing or a bad thing?

What's the difference between Polish people saying things like "Poland is for Poles" versus Zionism?

[State of Grace.]

1 minute ago, ForgottenSoul said:

No, I have not said oh they are both equal? I just said both are violent which they are.. not on equal terms but they have both done violent acts. 

Try living under occupation, having your home (where your family lived for decades) stolen and handed to American/European settlers or demolished and turned into rubble in front of your eyes, being subjected to daily human rights abuse, suffering from depression and anxiety caused by the constant raids, witness killing scenes and blood (incl toddlers and children) for years and years, etc and let's see if you don't act "violent". 

[Daddy]

4 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said:

I would comment about this but this should be discussed between Israelis and Palestinians.
Theyre the ones livin there and facing all the problems  

I feel like this mindset just helps the oppressor, not the victims.

[Communion]

52 minutes ago, Brunette Ambition said:

I’m sorry but it’s crazy to call Jews nazis. It absolutely downplays the holocaust and the prosecution of Jews. And that’s why we will continue to call those „anti-ZIONIST“ people out for what they are: antisemites hiding behind progressivism.

 

the situation in Israel is completely different from Nazi Germany.

I know I don't see a user who spent years mocking Beyonce as a "primate" and "monkey" on here because they thought it was "funny internet humor" that he now asks mods to ban the bringing up of because he was "just a young white tween from Brazil who didn't know any better about racial stereotypes in America's history" liking this post. 

 

@Gui Blackout How could someone hold the belief that anti-zionism is somehow explicitly anti-semitism but also feel rampant dehumanization of black people "for fun" is NOT anti-blackness?  Maybe sit these threads out?  if my internet presence was forever stained by the label of being a virulent anti-black racist, I simply would never pretend to have the gall to evoke anti-racism rhetoric to defend an ethno-nationalist movement. Are your anti-black views not commonplace amongst fellow Zionist ethno-nationalists?

Edited July 22, 2023 by Communion