onapearl Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 I'd question their sanity if they didn't take this approach
Happylittlepunk Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 This is mostly marvel issue imo. Star Wars only has like 2 big shows and no new movie in years. So I don’t see the problem with Star Wars. The problem really is quality issue. mcu hit the nail though it’s too many projects all at once. The old formula of cranking out 2 or 3 movies a year was enough. There should only be 1 marvel show at a time. Instead we get like 8 or 9 projects a year from mcu and honestly hard to keep up. Plus the quality isn’t there anymore.
Artist Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 or, hear me out, maybe the quality wasn't good? I mean - I think that's more reasonable since fans will take anything as long as it's, idk, maybe good? 1
Peroxide Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Artist said: or, hear me out, maybe the quality wasn't good? I mean - I think that's more reasonable since fans will take anything as long as it's, idk, maybe good? I think it’s the quality over quantity approach… it’s too much - and most of it is subpar. One Marvel movie a year (and one show a year) is more than enough. 2
Artist Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Peroxide said: I think it’s the quality over quantity approach… it’s too much - and most of it is subpar. One Marvel movie a year (and one show a year) is more than enough. True, but I also think it's possible to do both. Marvel just expected to ride off their name alone when that isn't enough. If Taylor, Drake, Peso, and even Rihanna and Ariana when they were active can produce frequently and strongly, so can Disney with its massive budget. No excuses for the wicked Disney that won't support writer's demand. Edited July 13, 2023 by Artist
Badgalbriel Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Artist said: True, but I also think it's possible to do both. Marvel just expected to ride off their name alone when that isn't enough. If Taylor, Drake, Peso, and even Rihanna and Ariana when they were active can produce frequently and strongly, so can Disney with its massive budget. No excuses for the wicked Disney that won't support writer's demand. Producing quality music is different from producing quality movies.
Artist Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: Producing quality music is different from producing quality movies. Yes and no, but my overall point is that they have the resources to do it. Whether or not they do it; however, is completely up to Disney.
ks_dollar Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 They didn't lie about the McDonald's of the film industry
Rebel Lion Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 The style of high budget theatrical hero movies are over. The Batman is proof of that. 1 1
GraceRandolph Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 50 minutes ago, Rebel Lion said: The style of high budget theatrical hero movies are over. The Batman is proof of that. The $200 million dollar The Batman? How? 2
poki Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 It's really starting to impact the movies. If you don't watch the Disney+ content, then the movies will make less sense. Why is Wanda suddenly evil? Why do Guardians have a dog? Ant Man 3 and Thor 4 in particular suffered because there is too much to oversee.
Machete Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 As they should. Movies like TLM would have been a hands down success had the budget not randomly been +200M And yeah D+ shows were ruining the MCU. I was literally a mega-fan but the constant McShows burned me out (didn't help none of them were even good).
Beyonnaise Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 Enough of these trash incel’d excuses of film with stale IP
JBJT2786 Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Rebel Lion said: The style of high budget theatrical hero movies are over. The Batman is proof of that. The Batman is high budget. OT: one thing that worked during Phase 1-3 was the most we got was 3 movies in one year. 2 movies and a show should be the best option for Marvel. Even if it delays alot of what fans want to see. Casual viewers don't have time to see 3 movies 4 shows and 2 holiday specials ( which basically was last year)
Gorjesspazze9 Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 True but to be fair. Marvel and Star Wars has been hard carrying the entire platform for 3 years now
Bey'Knight Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 10 hours ago, MingYouToo said: Also Marvel Studios' fault for thinking they could cram an Avengers movie as an end of saga project without the buildup and team dynamics. Putting Wanda, Sam Cap, She Hulk, Cpt. Marvel, Sersi, Thor, Shang-Chi, Strange, Hulk, etc. in a single movie without giving them proper buildup would've been suicide anyways so this is something good in the long run. Which project are you referring to?
Bey'Knight Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 9 hours ago, Gossip_Boy said: Well about time someone at Disney finally acknowledged this. The shows are destroying the MCU. The films are already very unfocused compared to the Infinity Saga, but it got so much worse when they started throwing so many (and mostly terrible) shows into the mix. At the very least they should be a separate thing. Not everything Marvel has to be shoved into the MCU. People are starting to get a bit tired of the whole shared universe/multiverse stuff and Disney is overdoing it. Managing an IP is very much like farming. Short term plunder may harm long term sustainability. I agree. At least with movies, it was easier to keep track. I’m not going to watch a dozen different shows to make sense of what comes in the next tentpole movie so either I go in conceding to missing context or skip it altogether.
MingYouToo Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bey'Knight said: Which project are you referring to? Avengers Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars are the only Avengers IPs coming out of the multiverse saga. Theres a distinct lack of cohesion and team dynamics established so far and were already a quarter into Phase 5. By the time Phase 2 rolled around we had a BW x IM movie, a CA x BW film, and an Avengers project. The lack of films that tie them together is hurting the synergy of the brands. It feels like shows that exist in the same universe but arent allowed to interact with one another. What the **** happened to Tiamut in the Indian Ocean, the **** in NYC and in Earth 838 with Wanda, etc. The TV shows are a great idea but aside from Loki and WandaVision, all of them are ok to subpar. Theyre not committing to the shows ideas and genres, MK was too palatable it ruined MKs whole brand of gory vigilante. She Hulk was too bogged down by superhero **** the sitcom side wasnt allowed tk breathe (and the VFX), Ms Marvel shouldve just been friendly neighborhood Kamala Khan not Noor dimension traveling Kamala Khan. Honestly I still have faith in the D+ system for Marvel but they need to keep the superhero **** as BACKGROUND for the stories that need to be told, not shoehorn them. Edited July 14, 2023 by MingYouToo 1
Bey'Knight Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MingYouToo said: Avengers Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars are the only Avengers IPs coming out of the multiverse saga. Theres a distinct lack of cohesion and team dynamics established so far and were already a quarter into Phase 5. By the time Phase 2 rolled around we had a BW x IM movie, a CA x BW film, and an Avengers project. The lack of films that tie them together is hurting the synergy of the brands. It feels like shows that exist in the same universe but arent allowed to interact with one another. What the **** happened to Tiamut in the Indian Ocean, the **** in NYC and in Earth 838 with Wanda, etc. The TV shows are a great idea but aside from Loki and WandaVision, all of them are ok to subpar. Theyre not committing to the shows ideas and genres, MK was too palatable it ruined MKs whole brand of gory vigilante. She Hulk was too bogged down by superhero **** the sitcom side wasnt allowed tk breathe (and the VFX), Ms Marvel shouldve just been friendly neighborhood Kamala Khan not Noor dimension traveling Kamala Khan. Honestly I still have faith in the D+ system for Marvel but they need to keep the superhero **** as BACKGROUND for the stories that need to be told, not shoehorn them. Ah ok. You are referring to their upcoming team-ups but i get your point. It’s ironic, for an industry that’s notorious for beating a proven method to death, they sure deviated from phase 1-3 for subsequent phases. Then again, Hollywood biggest hubris is always assuming bigger = better. Tbh i think no matter what, fatigue was bound to set in. There’s only so many chatacters, so many worlds, so many timelines that audience can digest. They should’ve put MCU on hiatus after the events of endgame and return in like 5 years with a new slate, giving everyone a chance to miss them. Now there’s less focus and no end in sight. The marquee characters are retired or dead. Why should i stay invested in another globetrotting expedition that will be available on streaming in 2 months anyway? Edited July 14, 2023 by Bey'Knight Typo
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