Hard truths ATRL isnt ready to hear?

[Filpo]

The vast majority of the artists discussed here are mainstream acts who made it big. They all had their moment of glory and are richer than most of us. Pitying and/or mocking people like Christina Aguilera, Shawn Mendes or Demi Lovato seems weird to me.

[punisher]

5 minutes ago, XtunaStan said:

Most of us owe our fave's existence to Madonna

As Cardi once said, every artist needs to study Madonna’s career!

[Virgos Groove]

52 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

In Nicki’s day you needed to have talent.

The second-biggest female rapper during Nicki's heyday was Iggy Azalea.

Edited July 6, 2023 by Virgos Groove

[Pheromosa]

Carly Jepson is not great.

Most of your favs are not bigger because they don’t have star quality, and that’s ok.

Streaming has killed the music industry and it’s going to get worse. 

Britney’s peak dancing was nothing special and borderline soulless. 

Gaga’s career is THE most mishandled in recent memory.

Many people did not know who Taylor Swift even was until the Kanye’s VMA incident. 

Ice Spice is the most aggressive industry manipulation we’ve seen thus far. 

Edited July 6, 2023 by Pheromosa

[Technicolor]

Your opinion is not an universal fact

[OCBoy212]

Katy Perry is WASHED & her music has aged like bananas In the desert 😂

[toxicgenie]

Jessica Simpson would've made it big had she stayed in music.

[Klein]

Repeating something over and over on ATRL or stan twitter won't make it true. 

[Fitzswiftie]

49 minutes ago, GentleEarthquake said:

Most of ATRLers fail to recognize they're getting old and don't understand why Gen Z likes something they don't

I still remember when females with most 100m songs was Spotify was made and most folks here didn’t understand how Billie Eilish had 10+ in 2018 when she "a complete nobody".

[Rihannito]

That the world doesn’t revolve around Miss Swift.

[Virgos Groove]

6 minutes ago, Technicolor said:

Your opinion is not an universal fact

False.

[punisher]

In 2023 pop music gen-z doesn’t care whether you have Mariah Carey vocals, the future is gonna be about songwriting. That’s why artists like Lana and Taylor are having amazing longevity and new artists like Olivia Rodrigo are rising. And I’m not talking about great songwriting in like a Fiona Apple, Bjork, Tori Amos way it’s mainly just gonna be songs reminiscent of jealousy, jealousy and happier from sour

[La Reina]

In the real world, Christina Aguilera is one of the best-selling artists of all-time and remains a respected artist and vocalist with an extensive influence and legacy. She didn't need tabloid controversies or fake PR'd celebrity relationships to attain the success that she's had over her immense career.

 

She did it all on her own while facing immense criticism, hate, misogyny, and double standards. This list alone speaks for itself:

https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_artists_influenced_by_Christina_Aguilera#Influenced_by_Christina_Aguilera

[Josh]

Just now, La Reina said:

In the real world, Christina Aguilera is one of the best-selling artists of all-time and remains a respected artist and vocalist with an extensive influence and legacy. She didn't need tabloid controversies or fake PR'd celebrity relationships to attain the success that she's had over her immense career.

 

She did it all on her own while facing immense criticism, hate, misogyny, and double standards. This list alone speaks for itself:

https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_artists_influenced_by_Christina_Aguilera#Influenced_by_Christina_Aguilera

Then why did she release Dirrty as the lead for Stripped? She wanted the controversy

[Klein]

2 minutes ago, Rihannito said:

That the world doesn’t revolve around Miss Swift.

I'm sorry but this is so ironic. 

 

"The world doesn't revolve around Taylor" -> proceeds to post about her in a thread where you could have mentioned anything else 

[Rev8]

Artists' achievements are Not fully genuine

and there have been all sorts of tricks put behind them.

 

But this isn't something ATRL isn't ready to hear

it's something ATRL isn't ready to accept

 

 

[SpaceOddity]

Madonna is literally the blueprint of a successful female artist and the fact that she's being seen as not "relevant enough for tik tok or most of gen z who are clueless of what she's done and her massive impact on pop music she's had for the past thirty years will not take that away. Yes, she tries too hard sometimes, posts dumb stuff on her socials or clings too much on her appearance but none of this will be remembered years down the line, her legacy surpasses all of that ****. Not one of your favorite female pop stars would've done half the **** she's done especially in the 80s and 90s. 

[Virgos Groove]

4 minutes ago, La Reina said:

She didn't need tabloid controversies

Are we going to gloss over the entire Stripped era or...

[Josh]

Just now, Virgos Groove said:

Are we going to gloss over the entire Stripped era or...

Wasn't it her label who opposed Dirrty as the lead? Christina was the one who wanted it as her lead. the label wanted Beautiful

[El Chico]

The reality that a lot of the artist we obsess with could flop tomorrow and never see another day of success……….and they would still be significantly more successful than ALOT of us. These people hit it big and are living the dream. 
 

Also living aggressively through someone else the way some do here is concerning. Y’all claim some of these artist “achievements” as if they were actually yours. 

[Born to Run]

Sam Smith makes better music than your faves.

 

[Wicked]

That y'all consume and breathe music in an echo chamber, most of y'all don't know enough outside of said echo chamber to have your music opinions taken seriously.

 

Y'all really don't know enough about music to be having conversations about impact, influence and legend status

[#Beautiful]

19 minutes ago, Rihannito said:

That the world doesn’t revolve around Miss Swift.

call it what it is. no one in the real world other than her obsessive fanbase actually cares about her. people do like her music, casually. but she's mediocre even in that. completely uninteresting as a "celebrity". even when she tried to give moment like she tried with bad blood it was flat and boring. shes basic white mediocre girls token of relatable because they see themselves in her, thats why shes big with their masses

Edited July 6, 2023 by #Beautiful

[naval23]

Adele;s 21 25 and 30 run >>> careers

[Steve Johnson]

2 minutes ago, #Beautiful said:

call it what it is. no one in the real world other than her obsessive fanbase actually cares about her. people do like her music, casually. but she's mediocre even in that. completely uninteresting as a "celebrity". even when she tried to give moment like she tried with bad blood it was flat and boring. shes basic white mediocre girls token of relatable because they see themselves in her, thats why shes big with their masses

I didn't know Asian countries are full of basic white girls. Taylor is huge huge in Asia.