Kern Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Embarrassing. Seems like Ava Max is The Beatles of our generation, not Taylor 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 My issue with The Guardian review isn’t that she’s not fawning over the album or stuck up Taylor’s ass, it’s her sudden switch-up on the re-recordings in general. If she doesn’t like SN TV because of the vocal changes or production, fine. It’s fair game, and she’s well within her rights to say she just doesn’t like the album. But to literally say the re-recordings are “pointless” when not that long ago she took part in a whole ass podcast episode surrounding not only Taylor’s re-recording process but artists in general re-claiming their work, and appeared to not only understand it but also champion it, feels like she is just looking for something else to pick apart. Just say you don’t like this re-recording. I also found the bit about releasing the remaining three albums as a box set to be very weird. She essentially reduced 1989 and Rep to the tabloid fodder they provided when she mentioned that their press cycles seemed too new to revisit. I won’t even get into the “branding” comments about Eras. All in all, it seemed like she was reviewing ‘Taylor Swift the person as of late’ just as much as she was reviewing Speak Now TV, but only one of those felt fair to me. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttsmu Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 People finally realizing that Taylor's music is mediocre. I couldn't finish listening to Speak Now in full. What a snooze fest OMG. 3 1 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Johnson Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 It rises to 76 (+2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) It's actually an 80. Edited July 7, 2023 by Klein 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, ttsmu said: People finally realizing that Taylor's music is mediocre. I couldn't finish listening to Speak Now in full. What a snooze fest OMG. I think we all knew you’d run in here to leave yet another obsessive comment. Hope you don’t hit your react limit giving every Taylor post a laughing reaction or thumbs down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorNation Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 the Guardian review is also particularly lame because of this Quote Swift is currently engaged in a huge retrospective project, the world-conquering Eras tour, in which she plays songs from each of her albums (bar the debut). (Canny branding again: most tours have a wide-ranging setlist.) like, we know?? it’s just a simple greatest hits tour, no one is saying she reinvented the wheel here. to call her out for “canny branding” as if she was being deceptive about it is so irresponsible 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyOnTheWall Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Mhh nah some of yall are getting out of line, while the re-recording(s) is(/are) pretty dull, Speak Now itself is still an amazing album and better music than 90% of atrl's other faves can come up with, let's get that striaght now (it's simply that the OG is better) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goli Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 she deserved a 4/10 for doing that to better than revenge, such a watered down version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disconnect Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, TaylorNation said: the Guardian review is also particularly lame because of this like, we know?? it’s just a simple greatest hits tour, no one is saying she reinvented the wheel here. to call her out for “canny branding” as if she was being deceptive about it is so irresponsible It's so obvious that woman is incredibly pressed and bitter about Taylor's success lmao. Even if the album ends up in the 70s it's still a very good score and the sales aren't going down anyway so... I feel bad that she has such a miserable life she's forced to write an article about someone she clearly envies, while still knowing no matter what she says, Taylor will continue to be successful anyways. Edited July 7, 2023 by Disconnect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascareus Kratos Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Although it is sad to see this gets 7x. But at least this can be prove that critics are still professional to her, Thus making invalid some argue told taylor is critic darling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mael Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Lower than OG, guess poptimism is over for Her. Not looking for to ts11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainwreck Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, ttsmu said: mediocre. Bffr, you're on every Taylor thread "trolling" and thinking you're doing something while stanning THIS? IJBOL Edited July 8, 2023 by Trainwreck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainwreck Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I loved the album because I never cared to check on Speak Now OG lmao, besides the reviews are positive so far. I think it's ok to realize that not every Taylor release has to be praised to Heaven, she's still gonna have a few missteps here and there and that's ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttsmu Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Trainwreck said: Bffr, you're on every Taylor thread "trolling" and thinking you're doing something while stanning THIS? IJBOL I stan pure talent sweetie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruel Summer Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I just skimmed the review from Spin, and it seems pretty positive. Maybe the critics aren't turning after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylena Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) It's now at 78 (6 reviews). If i didn't go check it myself, i would think from the OTHs commenting here that it's a panned album. Edited July 8, 2023 by Taylena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruel Summer Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Just now, Taylena said: It's now at 76 (6 reviews). If i didn't go check it myself, i would think from the OTHs commenting here that it's a panned album. 78 sis! Even better! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 SputnikMusic: 4/5 Panned is cancelled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator feelslikeadream Posted July 8, 2023 ATRL Moderator Share Posted July 8, 2023 She deserves a score around ~50 for what she did to If This Was A Grammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rep2000 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 On 7/6/2023 at 10:08 PM, =NEX= said: Red 77 vs Red TV 91 💀 The extra tracks certainly didn't improve the overall quality. Taylor is the literal proof of poptimism's existence. Red was underrated in the first place. Only to be hailed as her magnum opus years later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erotic Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Better Than Revenge, getting her revenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rep2000 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 4 hours ago, TaylorNation said: the Guardian review is also particularly lame because of this like, we know?? it’s just a simple greatest hits tour, no one is saying she reinvented the wheel here. to call her out for “canny branding” as if she was being deceptive about it is so irresponsible And Taylor is on the phone to quickly extend her London dates up to 9 as we speak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndThenTheCocaine Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 So she forgot to send her cheques to The Guardian this time round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocol Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Questions for the culture: I will get dragged but I don't care. I agree with the Guardian review. Changing lyrics is insulting to the fans. "Better Than Revenge" is good BECAUSE it's **** shaming. She dragged her for filth and left no crumbs only the way a rich passive aggressive white woman can and we LIVED for it. Don't lie. "But women are supposed to stand together!" yeah yeah whatever, that's not what you were saying as you sang along at full volume to she's better known for the things that does on the mattress woooahhh And honestly... they are right about the vocals. Her youthful tone is part of what made Fearless and Speak Now so special. With Red I actually prefer her vocals now and the more mature songwriting and production choices pair well with it. But the new versions of Wigless and Shart Now just don't have that same je ne sais quoi as the originals. Also the original productions were better, like the guitars just sounded cleaner idk why. Idk who this Christopher Rowe man is but he's not Nathan Champan. I will be streaming Stolen Version of Shart Now I am sorry to say. Is it immoral? Perhaps. But so was performing at the CCP shopping day event or whatever that Lover promo in China was, and I didn't care then, so I won't care now either. Scooter got his coin but so is Taylor. She may be a sensitive human who wants to own her artistic work, but she is also showbiz plutocrat cyborgian queen of pop at the end of the day. Cry not for her in this world of poverty and injustice we live in. Alexa play Better Than Revenge (Stolen Version) Note: all nicknames for albums in this post are given with a friendly wink and much love, please don't report ok thanks bye 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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