istan4badgalriri Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 pointless thread most of Rihanna's and Gaga's are club/dance remixes and those aren't usually successful on Spotify lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenMachine Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 We love artists who feed their stans with remixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DockDock Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MardinBeksloy Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 OTHs changing their narratives now that Taylor is not #1 what a petty bunch of Ls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheers Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Virgos Groove said: Dragging pop stars for releasing club mixes will never not be weird. Exactly Most of the remixes listed are just basic club remixes NO ONE listened to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonnie Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 No way OP and that person that made the tweet thought they did something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 This is misleading information. Go ahead and update this with the number of tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosque Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 “Dragging” artists for releasing remixes has never made any sense, and the scrambling some of you are doing in this thread proves it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Taylor has far more than 36 lol. Didn't Anti Hero have 10 alone. Also someone needs to count Mariah because she released hundreds of remixes during MC30. Nope, releasing remix is not really her thing except for Willow and Anti-Hero. You can check her Spotify page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) Gaga and Rihanna make DANCE MUSIC. Of course they’re going to have more remixes than someone who is a former country gal. Edited June 18, 2023 by GraceRandolph 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 I just realize that Liddos backtracking when they love using remixes as drag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, Dephira said: “Dragging” artists for releasing remixes has never made any sense, and the scrambling some of you are doing in this thread proves it Except artists are releasing EPs with no new music or including already released tracks on their remix EPs. And for no reason other than to increase the number of tracks available so fans have more versions to stream. Spotify filters out streams based on each individual track and not each individual song. Why do you think Dynamite by BTS has 15 different tracks on Spotify? Why do you think they uploaded the original track four different times? It’s one thing when artists were releasing remix EPs for club exposure and fans of EDM. But now they’re releasing 12+ different tracks of the same song so streaming farms and stans can loop them in a muted playlist and get higher filtered streams per day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosque Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, Eternium said: Except artists are releasing EPs with no new music or including already released tracks on their remix EPs. And for no reason other than to increase the number of tracks available so fans have more versions to stream. Spotify filters out streams based on each individual track and not each individual song. Why do you think Dynamite by BTS has 15 different tracks on Spotify? Why do you think they uploaded the original track four different times? It’s one thing when artists were releasing remix EPs for club exposure and fans of EDM. But now they’re releasing 12+ different tracks of the same song so streaming farms and stans can loop them in a muted playlist and get higher filtered streams per day. The real world impact of everything you are describing is 0.0. I guarantee not even Spotify cares about those streaming numbers because the fraudulence is beyond obvious. Which is why using the release of a remix to drag an artist is just stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dephira said: The real world impact of everything you are describing is 0.0. I guarantee not even Spotify cares about those streaming numbers because the fraudulence is beyond obvious. Which is why using the release of a remix to drag an artist is just stupid If the impact is “0.0,” then why are companies releasing so many tracks per single? Why are there so many Twitter accounts and Spotify accounts dedicated to creating fake streams and giving lessons on how to fake them? Why is the music industry teaming up to stop this music fraud? Please explain. https://www.billboard.com/pro/streaming-fraud-music-business-attention/ https://www.billboard.com/pro/digital-music-companies-combat-streaming-fraud-initiative/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Pop Queen Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Jeremiah said: Like, I'm legit sorry for Switfies for knowing remixes as cheap chart tactics and not as an art form. lol Big facts. A true remix is indeed an art form, especially at its peak in the 90s and 00s. Not surprising that all the female artists with hundreds of remixes have the most fun and dynamic discographies with music that DJs, producers and other artists want to remix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantedyoutogrow Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 this is peak jobless behavior im sorry anyways not surprised to see ariana is the most #organic out of the bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Eternium said: If the impact is “0.0,” then why are companies releasing so many tracks per single? Why are there so many Twitter accounts and Spotify accounts dedicated to creating fake streams and giving lessons on how to fake them? Why is the music industry teaming up to stop this music fraud? Please explain. https://www.billboard.com/pro/streaming-fraud-music-business-attention/ https://www.billboard.com/pro/digital-music-companies-combat-streaming-fraud-initiative/ Quote While recent studies have concluded that around 80% of fraud is financially motivated — grifters running bot networks to white noise recordings, for example, rather than the work of actual artists — White said, “We’ve seen enormous strides in identifying that [activity] really early.” So, again, no one in the real world is affected by this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 9 hours ago, ttsmu said: Now make a list of females artist discounting their discounted discounts so they can spend another week at #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsmydemi Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Remixes as in DJ remixes? You seriously dragging artists because of this now? No one listens to the majority of them more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, thatsmydemi said: Remixes as in DJ remixes? You seriously dragging artists because of this now? No one listens to the majority of them more than once. This one SHOULD be listened to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 10 hours ago, ttsmu said: Now make a list of females artist discounting their discounted discounts so they can spend another week at #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankle Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 "remixes and versions" and yet the so-called Taylor's Versions are nowhere to be seen. hm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Headlock said: So, again, no one in the real world is affected by this Reading comprehension is certainly hard for you, which is funny seeing how you like to be condescending. The “white noise mass streaming” is a separate form of fraudulence where an indie label will upload sound, use a few devices to mass stream it and then collect royalties on it. You can do a little reading here and, while you’re at it, read a quick study where France estimates that at least 1-3% of their streams are fraudulent, but believes it to be significantly more. If you extrapolate that to the global market, that’s between 34B-102B fraudulent streams a year, at the very least. https://musically.com/2023/01/19/just-how-big-is-the-music-industrys-fake-streams-problem/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 4 hours ago, skankle said: "remixes and versions" and yet the so-called Taylor's Versions are nowhere to be seen. hm! Here’s what the number of “songs” with unique Spotify counters looks like on Spotify (keep in mind that remixes are separated as unique “songs” for Spotify): Taylor Swift - 501 Beyonce - 406 Nicki Minaj - 383 Rihanna - 358 Lady Gaga - 313 Ariana Grande - 224 Miley Cyrus - 220 Katy Perry - 175 Selena Gomez - 142 The numbers I’m posting are also misleading. Current acts will upload the same track multiple times so that fans can mass stream it more to have it count for the charts. Both Katy Perry (random EPs) and Taylor Swift (including already released tracks on new remix EPs) have done this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Eternium said: Reading comprehension is certainly hard for you, which is funny seeing how you like to be condescending. The “white noise mass streaming” is a separate form of fraudulence where an indie label will upload sound, use a few devices to mass stream it and then collect royalties on it. And the main form, as directly stated by the article you linked. Yes, we should talk about reading comprehension 2 hours ago, Eternium said: You can do a little reading here and, while you’re at it, read a quick study where France estimates that at least 1-3% of their streams are fraudulent, but believes it to be significantly more. If you extrapolate that to the global market, that’s between 34B-102B fraudulent streams a year, at the very least. https://musically.com/2023/01/19/just-how-big-is-the-music-industrys-fake-streams-problem/ That’s not how this works, you can’t extrapolate one countries small issue globally. You’re giving full conspiracy theorist in every thread about streaming Edited June 18, 2023 by Headlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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