charts discussion Spotify: Karma OUT of Top 200

[Peroxide]

23 hours ago, CaptainMusic said:

Is this Taylor’s biggest flop ever?   

 

She needs to release Cruel Summer already

Nah, End Game was far worse... and we'll still get a cute peak so 

[Andraslop]

1 hour ago, Nefertiti0 said:

day 7
Global: #81(+34) — 1,587,431
US: #40(+11) — 573,149
UK: #100(+94) — 89,208

The fraudulency of Autoplay....

[By the Water]

A #3 peaking third single being considered a bomb  My God the OTH are desperate for a win

[Hot Volcano]

Not her doing autoplay after she saw the song bombing

[Hot Volcano]

42 minutes ago, By the Water said:

A #3 peaking third single being considered a bomb  My God the OTH are desperate for a win

A #3 peaking third single fueled by a controversy, major Spotify push and now even autoplay

[pride4jc1222]

1 hour ago, Peroxide said:

Nah, End Game was far worse... and we'll still get a cute peak so 

I’d say Ready For It was the worst. End Game and The Man were victims of unfortunate timing. I’m not sure what they were thinking releasing EG when Ed’s “Perfect” was at its peak. Delicate should have been the 3rd single, and EG probably would have been positioned better as the 4th single, following the success of Delicate and with Perfect on the decline. The Man was an unfortunate victim of the pandemic, but you could argue it was a throwaway single.

 

But there really isn’t any obvious reason why RFI flopped. Taking circumstances into consideration, RFI should have performed better than it did.

[By the Water]

1 hour ago, Hot Volcano said:

A #3 peaking third single fueled by a controversy, major Spotify push and now even autoplay

Some third singles couldn’t even chart with a whole ass short film and a VMA performance 

[Headlock]

2 hours ago, Hot Volcano said:

A #3 peaking third single

Which is difficult to get.gif 

[kudmips7890]

1 hour ago, By the Water said:

short film

Not you falling for her marketing like that 

[Ger]

Is the autoplay real?

[Headlock]

2 hours ago, kudmips7890 said:

Not you falling for her marketing like that 

…you do realize you’re dragging your fav, right? Cause that’s who they were referring to 

[kudmips7890]

48 minutes ago, Headlock said:

…you do realize you’re dragging your fav, right? Cause that’s who they’re referring to 

…Or I’m pointing to the fact that they were trying to imply something with “sHoRt fIlM???”  

 

It’s a Gaga MV with the standard length of a MV, not some 15-minute cinematographic play by play  

 

Your fellow Swiftie was clearly trying to make this MV out to be something more than it was. Otherwise why emphasize “short film?” Please explain that lol because I fail to see how this is a self-drag

 

I mean you can ask any of us about how we were disappointed it wasn’t something 10 minutes long when it was released! The marketing suggested something different and instead we got a regular MV.

[Carla Rosón]

19 hours ago, Papi Juancho said:

already on autoplay on spotify, tomorrow's update will be cute 

The way you were right 

[Save-Me-Oprah]

5 hours ago, pride4jc1222 said:

But there really isn’t any obvious reason why RFI flopped. Taking circumstances into consideration, RFI should have performed better than it did.

RFI came out only a week after LWYMMD, while LWYMMD was still #1

[Headlock]

37 minutes ago, kudmips7890 said:

…Or I’m pointing to the fact that they were trying to imply something with “sHoRt fIlM???”  

 

It’s a Gaga MV with the standard length of a MV, not some 15-minute cinematographic play by play  

 

Your fellow Swiftie was clearly trying to make this MV out to be something more than it was. Otherwise why emphasize “short film?” Please explain that lol because I fail to see how this is a self-drag

 

I mean you can ask any of us about how we were disappointed it wasn’t something 10 minutes long when it was released! The marketing suggested something different and instead we got a regular MV.

So she engaged in dishonest marketing techniques? 
 

I literally could not care less btw. The point is a Liddo tried to get cute (like that member always does), with no legs to stand on.

[Starchild]

6 hours ago, Hot Volcano said:

A #3 peaking third single fueled by a controversy, major Spotify push and now even autoplay

You're so embarrassing atp

[YellowRibbon]

2 hours ago, Starchild said:

You're so embarrassing atp

Utterly embarrasing... when's the lava going to run out?

[Starchild]

4 minutes ago, YellowRibbon said:

Utterly embarrasing... when's the lava going to run out?

[Blue Monday]

10 hours ago, By the Water said:

A #3 peaking third single being considered a bomb  My God the OTH are desperate for a win

Swifties were saying the same thing about Die For You and it went number 1  

[Hot Volcano]

18 hours ago, By the Water said:

Some third singles couldn’t even chart with a whole ass short film and a VMA performance 

 

14 hours ago, Headlock said:

…you do realize you’re dragging your fav, right? Cause that’s who they were referring to 

What third single are you talking about? Has that song been serviced to US radio? Has its been promoted on major Spotify/AM playlists?

 

If by any chance your are talking about 911, a song that was only released in Italy as a single, guess that gives me the right to say that Taylor's discography is full of flop singles using that logic

[Nefertiti0]

Day 8
Global: #89(-8) — 1,672,598
US: #55(-15) — 533,260
UK: #87(+13) — 103,610

[simmnfierzig]

On 6/2/2023 at 2:39 PM, Hot Volcano said:

A #3 peaking third single fueled by a controversy, major Spotify push and now even autoplay

The remix never made it on TTH

And the controversy of Ice Spice and her boyfriend or what?  As if that was helping at all with the numbers

 

21 hours ago, Ger-55 said:

Is the autoplay real?

Yeah guess so. Even weirder than the AOTGYLB one. 

I know Spotify said you can pay for that, but very clearly not always. A lot of songs by big names just get on there after a week.

 

And there surely are different degrees to it. Its not getting a crazy amount of autoplay

[Wolf Alice]

10 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

The remix never made it on TTH

And the controversy of Ice Spice and her boyfriend or what?  As if that was helping at all with the numbers

 

Yeah guess so. Even weirder than the AOTGYLB one. 

I know Spotify said you can pay for that, but very clearly not always. A lot of songs by big names just get on there after a week.

 

And there surely are different degrees to it. Its not getting a crazy amount of autoplay

You don't have to pay directly for autoplay. You need to let go of a % of royalties for it to be on it so that Spotify has the incentive to push these songs more than the others where they have to pay more royalties. The pitch deck for this was centered on Dua's Spotify growth and has been developed from the early TTH arrangement that labels had with Spotify. 

[simmnfierzig]

14 minutes ago, Wolf Alice said:

You don't have to pay directly for autoplay. You need to let go of a % of royalties for it to be on it so that Spotify has the incentive to push these songs more than the others where they have to pay more royalties. The pitch deck for this was centered on Dua's Spotify growth and has been developed from the early TTH arrangement that labels had with Spotify. 

Totally irrelevant distinction, but sure.

Do we know that every song that receives any sort of autoplay has lower royalties? 

I think there absolutely are some that still get an organic push 

[Nova_23]

Anti-Hero was the correct lead single. She should have followed that up with midnight rain for the winter and then released Lavender Haze as the summer song she’s trying to get

 

I like Karma but can see why it doesn’t click with the GP