discussion Should male circumcision be banned/outlawed?

[MotoPapi]

Yes. It’s mutilation.

 

plus uncut dick>>>
 

more flavor 

[Asparagus Spears]

I’m cut and I don’t remember it happening so I’m not traumatised by it. It’s definitely not self mutilation. Baffoons

[Hurem]

It’s mutilation. People should be able to have a choice whether or not they wanna get circumsised.

[Rev8]

I voted yes, just cause..

 

But imo people should choose

however, more people should Not do it

ofc medical stuff and etc..but the fact that some people are so lazy that they can't clean their penises?

but Uncuts are the unclean ones

[Sazare]

On infants without medical or religious reasons, yes

 

While I don’t really think religion is a valid reason to do that to your child, I do think that also  outlawing it for religious reasons would only lead motivated parents to just have it done in a more backalley sense, with fewer safety precautions and more health risks

[Sazare]

12 minutes ago, Asparagus Spears said:

I’m cut and I don’t remember it happening so I’m not traumatised by it. It’s definitely not self mutilation. Baffoons

It’s not self-mutilation because someone else is doing it to you  “Baffoon” [sic] indeed.

 

And just because you don’t remember it doesn’t mean it wasn’t a violation. Do people with dementia not deserve bodily autonomy?

[Johnny Jacobs]

19 minutes ago, Asparagus Spears said:

I’m cut and I don’t remember it happening so I’m not traumatised by it. It’s definitely not self mutilation. Baffoons

Period.. 

 

It's more esthetic and not to mention the medical pros (decreasing risk for infections and stds) 

 

Be edgy somewhere else. 

 

No shade tho to uncut guys but it's a no for me

[Zox]

10 minutes ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

Period.. 

 

It's more esthetic and not to mention the medical pros (decreasing risk for infections and stds) 

 

Be edgy somewhere else. 

 

No shade tho to uncut guys but it's a no for me

Right  I don’t think I’ve ever heard a cut guy in my life state he wishes he could’ve made that decision himself and been uncut. On the contrary, I’ve met (and dated) several uncut guys who had medical issues because of it and wished they were cut. 
 

I’m convinced this entire thread is of uncut men who wish they were cut because otherwise, literally nobody cares about it.

[Embustera]

No, I only date men who are circumcised.

[HeavyMetalAura]

3 hours ago, campelo said:

Why? There are health benefits of circumcision,  less likely to get urinary tract infections, some protection from penile cancer, prevention of inflammation of the glans and foreskin, easy to clean for those who don't have phimosis....  I like uncut dicks better but that's just a personal preference, but from a healthy point of view this is not barbaric 

The way no one has quoted you to refute this point because you’re correct! 

 

I agree, it’s giving anti-vaxxer to say this is barbaric  The health benefits make it a medical procedure, it’s not simply an aesthetic choice, people act like we’re forcing babies to get a BBL or something. Obviously it’s totally okay to forego circumcision if a parent chooses so long as the procedure is available later in life should the person want it - but it’s very disturbing that people are calling this barbaric.

[Sazare]

7 minutes ago, Zox said:

Right  I don’t think I’ve ever heard a cut guy in my life state he wishes he could’ve made that decision himself and been uncut. On the contrary, I’ve met (and dated) several uncut guys who had medical issues because of it and wished they were cut. 
 

I’m convinced this entire thread is of uncut men who wish they were cut because otherwise, literally nobody cares about it.

Idk what country you’re in but in the US most younger guys I’ve talked to have wished they hadn’t been cut, that’s a large part of why rates in the US have been continually dropping since the ‘90s or so

Edited May 15, 2023 by Sazare

[Harrier]

I'm on the fence on this one. It does actually have legitimate health benefits in areas with high HIV prevalence. It also has strong cultural significance in some religions obviously.

 

But also I believe in bodily autonomy, so ultimately I think it should be banned for non-religious reasons on babies. I mean there are whole communities of men into foreskin restoration because they feel they were denied a choice. 

 

For the record I chose to be circumcised as an adult for a mix of medical & aesthetic reasons. But I feel it should be that - a choice.

[GotMyBlueprint]

Yeah, the fact that I can remember having mine done when I was in the 2nd grade, and the fact that it was BOTCHED, and the additional fact that I'm pretty sure it wasn't even needed has me pressed.

[Into The Void]

7 minutes ago, Zox said:

Right  I don’t think I’ve ever heard a cut guy in my life state he wishes he could’ve made that decision himself and been uncut. On the contrary, I’ve met (and dated) several uncut guys who had medical issues because of it and wished they were cut. 
 

I’m convinced this entire thread is of uncut men who wish they were cut because otherwise, literally nobody cares about it.

Same I've never heard a cut man be upset about it. I was circumcised at birth as well. I don't really care that I was.

[Gaia]

2 hours ago, bad guy said:

It doesn't have any negative effects and no man cries about being circumcised because it doesn't matter so no.

Right. I’ve never met any American men who care so why do Europeans tend to care so much about it when it’s mostly a U.S. thing

[Into The Void]

5 minutes ago, Sazare said:

Idk what country you’re in but in the US most younger guys I’ve talked to have wished they hadn’t been cut, that’s a large part of why rates in the US have been continually dropping since the ‘90s or so

I'm in the US as well but I never talked to anyone who wish they were uncut honestly.

[Bloodflowers.]

1 hour ago, Zox said:

Y’all do realize that the older you get, the more painful, risky, and longer time to heal it takes to get something like this done, right? That’s quite literally the reason it’s done on infants. 

 

Infants genitals aren't even fully developed to do that for a medical procedure  y'all are WILD

 

Most cases are done due to non-medical reasons to boys who have no choice of their own autonomy.

 

If you have extra amount of foreskin for example, you will have it at 18 or at 68. So why would you wait till you're old? And healing in general takes longer the more old you get cause your body slows recovers. So you can do it at earlier age. Your point is a non-issue.

[Otter]

3 hours ago, campelo said:

Why? There are health benefits of circumcision,  less likely to get urinary tract infections, some protection from penile cancer, prevention of inflammation of the glans and foreskin, easy to clean for those who don't have phimosis....  I like uncut dicks better but that's just a personal preference, but from a healthy point of view this is not barbaric 

There is no strong case to be giving circumcision to Children without discernable cause of them being at high risk phimosis etc. Since it's an irreversable precedure and directly impacts the eventual sex life of the adult, it should be a decision left for them to make in their adulthood. 

 

I had an adult circumcision because of phimosis, I have no regret but it also has down sides less natural lubrication and sensitivity. Limited research will say there is no difference in sensitivity but anyone who has actually experienced both states in adulthood will know otherwise. Research compares people who have only ever been X or Y

Edited May 15, 2023 by Otter

[Otter]

49 minutes ago, HeavyMetalAura said:

The way no one has quoted you to refute this point because you’re correct! 

 

I agree, it’s giving anti-vaxxer to say this is barbaric  The health benefits make it a medical procedure, it’s not simply an aesthetic choice, people act like we’re forcing babies to get a BBL or something. Obviously it’s totally okay to forego circumcision if a parent chooses so long as the procedure is available later in life should the person want it - but it’s very disturbing that people are calling this barbaric.

Pre-emptively removing the tonsils of all kids just incase they ever developed frequent tonsilitus would also be considered barbaric tbh 

[campelo]

3 minutes ago, Otter said:

There is no strong case to be giving circumcision to Children without discernable cause of them being at high risk phimosis etc. Since it's an irreversable precedure and directly impacts the eventual sex life of the adult, it should be a decision left for them to make in their adulthood. 

 

I had an adult circumcision because of phimosis, I have no regret but it also has down sides less natural lubrication and sensitivity. Limited research will say there is no difference in sensitivity but anyone who has actually experienced both states in adulthood will know otherwise 

When a person can't retract the foreskin to simply clean the ***** against smegma, it also hurts when someone will have sex, as the person as well won't be able to use properly condom, since it all hurt the *****. 

[Illuminati]

I think it will go out of fashion eventually among those that do it for aesthetics, the ban would just cause drama among religious groups.

 

The "health benefits" are also greatly exaggerated. No doctor in Europe would ever insist on performing a circumcision on a newborn unless it was a parents decision.

 

There's still a lot of people that need the surgery for medical reasons, I cringe whenever this always-heated debate leads to people shaming cut guys, as if they had a choice in this.

Edited May 15, 2023 by Illuminati

[State of Grace.]

I like my cut dique so idk, maybe my parents snapped with their decision

[Otter]

20 minutes ago, campelo said:

When a person can't retract the foreskin to simply clean the ***** against smegma, it also hurts when someone will have sex, as the person as well won't be able to use properly condom, since it all hurt the *****. 

Yeah that's phimosis but most boys do not have that, many can fix it without surgery and those who can't can still have it the procedure done.

[WEEKND]

lol no children don’t remember but going through that as an adult is the worst u can’t wear pants for like two weeks 

[BOOMBAYAH]

(Kind of off-topic) but I remember growing up I genuinely did not know what cut and uncut meant and then me and my friends started talking about if we’re cut or uncut and I was confused  then when I did learn what it was I thought people were just born with different looking dicks and it wasn’t until I was like 12 that I learned it was mutilation

 

Anyways, I personally like being cut + I have no trauma about it. That said, if I have a son I don’t think I will make that decision for him (also scared of something going wrong).