celeb news Beyonce’s Renaissance Tour Could Outearn Taylor Swift’s Eras Tour By $600 Million

[vale9001]

They made an article with a possible range of earnings between 275M and 2.7B 

 

This just screams all we are writing is totally casual 

 

 

Edited May 8, 2023 by vale9001

[SwiftLover]

The “Beyonce missed projections by OVER TWO BILLION, why?” thread will be a kiiiiii 

Edited May 8, 2023 by SwiftLover

[Taylena]

If an alien spaceship shows up at one of Beyoncé's dates and drops 10 billion in cash over the crowd then her tour could gross $10 billion+.  This Forbes article is just as dumb as my imaginary scenario.  

[Zoomer]

47 minutes ago, Feetree said:

Has anyone earned 2billion from a tour before male or female 

Nobody earned 1B or anything close to it. Let alone 2B 💀

 

OT: As if 😭

[charot]

4 minutes ago, burninredhot said:

A big setup i fear. How can someone have a margin of 250M-2.5B 

Obviously for the sake of NARRATIVES, narratives that she's bigger, better and above everyone. Her PR is on another level. 

[Rep2000]

40 minutes ago, satellites.™ said:

And dating racists BACK TO BACK.

This desperate attempt to call Joe racist is so tired. But then again, you're living in a constant delulu stage.

[Kristie Kuwa]

unnecessary thread in my opinion. shes going to do 300+ which would be incredible regardless and a career high 

[Rev8]

1 hour ago, i spit on haters said:

The same can easily be applied to Taylor and her white feminism. 

Right?

I like both women, but some of these stans.....

[fentypark]

well we for sure know which one won’t be full of lip syncing and flat notes 

[Rep2000]

38 minutes ago, i spit on haters said:

I know about Matt but that Joe dude has a racist history, too ? or are you talking about another ex ? it's been so many so it's difficult to keep track. And not that I would want to. 

Joe and Taylor were together for 6 years. That person is just talking put of their behind.

[satellites.™]

5 minutes ago, SwiftLover said:

The “Beyonce missed projections by OVER TWO BILLION, why?” thread will be a kiiiiii 

Forbes is trying to be cute, they know what theyre doing.

[Badgalbriel]

Demi Lovato's Tour could gross between 0 and 100 million dollars. 

[ariananext]

Imagine a battle of dates, tour every single italian region queens! 

[The Second Coming]

No doubt she will do very well, but this reads just as the usual paid Forbes PR tabloid propaganda. They are just another marketing tool for celebs, zero credibility.

[6_INCH_HEELS]

What kind of range is this? I wish Forbes would just...go bankrupt. The irony. The peace!

[Rep2000]

An Enya tour could gross between 0 to 4 biilions dollars, outgross both Taylor and Beyonce combined.

[Pheromosa]

No one believes this but the mental gymnastics pulled here to put this on bey’s PR team are hilarious 

It’s been known that Forbes is full of **** 

[idkwiam]

It won't even gross 1B let alone 2.5B. Taylor won't gross 1.6B either. Why are they posting misleading numbers for both of them?

 

 

[TheLastChord]

Where are these over 1b figures coming from?  

 

Like I could fully see Taylor or Bey grossing over 1b for a single tour, but they would need MORE dates. As it stands, neither of these tours are going over 1b, let alone 2b

[vale9001]

In europe tickets prices have not an average of 700 dollars, 650 euros.

 

Just forget about that. Her last tour average tickets was 90 euros in Germany and Sweden.

This tour won't have in europe a ticket average than most than 150 euros. I would say something  around 130.

 

Prices in uk are from 56 to 199 pounds for seated

106 pounds for standings. 

 

177 for Gold circle and 221 for the entry package.

 

These are 80% of all tickets.

 

I don't undestand why this set up against her 

Edited May 8, 2023 by vale9001

[Mr. Stratus]

A lot of the Rena tour is empty/unsold I saw. This is now the issue with Bey. Her PR is just silly. Like ‘Rena could sell 3m’ before that

Edited May 8, 2023 by Mr. Stratus

[SwiftLover]

3 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

In europe tickets prices have not an average of 700 dollars, 650 euros.

 

Just forget about that. Her last tour average tickets was 90 euros in Germany and Sweden.

This tour won't have in europe a ticket average than most than 150 euros. I would say something  around 130.

 

Prices in uk are from 56 to 199 pounds for seated

106 pounds for standings. 

 

177 for Gold circle and 221 for the entry package.

 

These are 80% of all tickets.

 

I don't undestand why this set up against her 

They set her up…

 

[scheibe]

tidal math 

[Bonicap]

34 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

They made an article with a possible range of earnings between 275M and 2.7B 

 

This just screams all we are writing is totally casual 

 

 

Just like the article they made about Eras grossing 1.6B$. I thought Forbes was a serious publication but clickbait is universal I guess.

[wastedpotential]

Yes Beyonce had dynamic pricing where Taylor did not, but Taylor has several more sections of each stadium open for sale (which is how she's averaging north of 65k per night when most stadium shows max out at 55k). Beyonce's PR team remains top notch, I'll hand that to them, but these numbers are ludicrous. Taylor and Beyonce have played stadiums back to back before in the same summer, and Taylor's numbers were significantly, significantly better. With 5 more shows, the Reputation Stadium Tour made almost $100 Million more than the On The Run II tour did, and I see no reason for that to be significantly different this time. Beyonce is starting her tour in Europe, where the grosses will be smaller because Europeans won't pay as much as Americans generally, plus the EUR-USD exchange rate isn't super favourable for conversions at the moment, at least compared to where things were in 2018. Yes, Taylor will be playing EU dates at some point, but over 1/3 of Beyonce's 57 dates are there, whereas all of Taylor's 52 dates are in top-grossing, USD-denominated cities. There's no way that Beyonce will be able to catch up to Taylor with 16 fewer US dates where less sections of the stadium are for sale. She'll probably have a higher average ticket price (but not all that much), but with fewer tickets per date, the total gross will average out each night, and Taylor has 16 more in the US, plus whatever happens internationally. 

 

Here is the data from every stadium both played in 2018, for a sense of comparison. I took the average of each multi-night date, for a more fair comparison. On the left of the / is Taylor and on the right is Beyonce. The numbers in bold are the ones where Beyonce outgrossed/outattended Taylor, which only happened in 3 of the 19 cities. In most, Taylor had at least 5k-20k more people in the audience every night and made well over $1M more per night. 

 

Spoiler

Glendale AZ -

Attendance: 59,157/37,174

Gross: 7,214,478/4,426,568

Difference: 21,983, $2,787,910

 

Santa Clara CA -

Attendance: 53,775/47,235

Gross: 7,003,482/7,548,208

Difference: 6,540, $544,726

 

Pasadena CA -

Attendance: 59,042/53,275

Gross: 8,125,990/6,732,031

Difference: 5767, $1,393,959

 

Seattle WA -

Attendance: 56,021/40,718

Gross: 8,672,219/4,888,994

Difference: 15,303, $3,783,225

 

Chicago IL -

Attendance: 52,604/43,301

Gross: 7,288,349/6,145,549

Difference: 9,303, $1,142,800

 

Columbus OH -

Attendance: 62,897/35,083

Gross: 6,606,529/3,142,160

Difference: 27,814, $3,464,369

 

Landover MD -

Attendance: 47,836/40,847

Gross: 5,698,002/5,718,789

Difference: 6,989, $20,787

 

Philadelphia PA -

Attendance: 53,689/54,870

Gross: 5,975,524/6,709,691

Difference: 1,181, $734,167

 

Cleveland OH -

Attendance: 51,323/38,931

Gross: 5,148,757/4,194,376

Difference: 12,392, $954,381

 

East Rutherford NJ -

Attendance: 55,218/49,877

Gross: 7,343,795/6,943,208

Difference: 5,341, $400,587

 

Foxborough MA -

Attendance: 58,255/47,667

Gross: 7,259,949/6,159,980

Difference: 10,588, $1,099,096

 

Atlanta GA -

Attendance: 58,373/52,585

Gross: 9,044,708/7,037,346

Difference: 5,788, $2,007,362

 

Miami Gardens FL -

Attendance: 47,818/44,310

Gross: 7,072,164/6,295,535

Difference: 3,508, $776,629

 

Nashville TN -

Attendance: 56,112/35,353

Gross: 9,007,179/4,058,910

Difference: 20,759, $4,948,269

 

Detroit MI -

Attendance: 49,464/43,699

Gross: 6,597,852/5,310,376

Difference: 5,765, $1,287,476

 

Minneapolis MN -

Attendance: 49,387/32,851

Gross: 5,121,012/3,627,417

Difference: 16,536, $1,493,595

 

New Orleans LA -

Attendance: 53,172/40,939

Gross: 6,491,546/5,437,147

Difference: 23,233, $1,054,372

 

Houston TX -

Attendance: 53,800/43,968

Gross: 9,350,275/5,528,418

Difference: 9,832, $3,821,857

Arlington TX -

Attendance: 52,501/41,626

Gross: 7,503,079/5,713,125

Difference: 10,875, $1,789,954