ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted March 30, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted March 30, 2023 America is as hyper partisan as ever. No swing vote is going to look at this and say “Wow I just HAVE to vote for Trump now!” It’s more realistic that the # of votes in 2024 drops from the amount in 2020 because of how much both candidates suck
Stardom Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Espresso said: "he is a badass if he's got a mugshot" Just completely out of touch with reality
Communion Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Bears01 said: Yeah, I’m sure he’s gained so much support from this from out of the 81 million people who voted against him. I get having an emotional reaction and wanting to be able to celebrate bad people getting some - or at least we hope - justice brought against them, but recent polls across the board have Biden and Trump neck-and-neck. The NPR - not Fox - poll you quoted wasn't an election poll, but a general poll about Americans' views on Trump. It may feel good to know 61% of Americans don't want Trump re-elected, but then it must be a cause for concern if Democrats' failures lead people who'd want to stop Trump to just not turn out to vote. Which is why a recent Fox poll - which shows Trump currently winning the primary +30 - has these match-up: 38% - Biden 38% - Trump 20% - Someone Else 4 - No Vote These results show across the board In other new polls. Aggregators have them at 43% Biden vs 43% Trump vs 14% Someone Else. Edited March 30, 2023 by Communion
modeblock Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, Katy V.! said: This would be exciting if it was actually happening. However, I can't wait for the witch hunt that's about to start since every former US president should be rotting in jail. a dream, literally a DREAM OT: fat and OVER
Bears01 Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mean Trees said: You mean the 2020 election where the vote margin was lower than 2016? It's literally just happened. Let's see how it will play out. 4 minutes ago, khalyan said: America is as hyper partisan as ever. No swing vote is going to look at this and say “Wow I just HAVE to vote for Trump now!” It’s more realistic that the # of votes in 2024 drops from the amount in 2020 because of how much both candidates suck
Babydoll. Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Taylena said: Are they trying to overshadow Jisoo's solo debut?? literally.... they knew mother was coming... they could've waited...
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted March 30, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted March 30, 2023 Frankly, I don't understand people looking at this and just reducing it to being a political benefit to Trump. His core base is already beyond activated and excited to vote for him anyway. The number of independents that switch to his side in response to this is very likely extremely marginal. Is that to say Trump has no shot to win in 2024? No. But he always had a shot anyway. Trying to read the political tea leaves from this too much just reminds me of the people that swore up and down that Trump getting COVID was some mastermind strategy to bolster support to ultimately win the election only for him to lose it. There's a long way to go before the 2024 election. There are going to be countless events that have more impact on the political mood of the country between now and then.
Communion Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, Bears01 said: Sis, lower turnout doesn't help Democrats. See: 2016.
Communion Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Espresso said: Not him running to defend the man who called him a pedophile.
Katamari Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 Y’all are kiiing but a former president getting indicted is insane like what is this world that we live in
slik Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 @XAMJ @Bloodflowers. First DeSantis humiliated by Disney and now Trump indicted, it is truly WrestleMania week!
Ms. Togekiss Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 desantis running to defend trump is so embarrassing they're really terrified of the braindead magats huh
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 Let me get a glass of wine and start scrolling Twitter
Moloko Plus Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 Inb4 this ends in his favor and fuels his 2024 reelection bid to the point where he wins it again An absolute travesty
Harrier Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Bloo said: Frankly, I don't understand people looking at this and just reducing it to being a political benefit to Trump. His core base is already beyond activated and excited to vote for him anyway. The number of independents that switch to his side in response to this is very likely extremely marginal. Is that to say Trump has no shot to win in 2024? No. But he always had a shot anyway. Trying to read the political tea leaves from this too much just reminds me of the people that swore up and down that Trump getting COVID was some mastermind strategy to bolster support to ultimately win the election only for him to lose it. There's a long way to go before the 2024 election. There is going to be countless events that have more impact on the political mood of the country between now and then. Agree 100% with this. I get the points being made that this might help him in some very populist corners of the country, but it's very speculative. We are so far out it's hard to say. I could be equally speculative and argue that this might hurt him a lot with voters that aren't that politically tuned in. Criminally indicted? It's just a very bad look. Look how much the Comey investigation hurt Hillary. But also I don't really know. Bottom line is Trump has committed many crimes and I'm glad he's going to be held accountable for once.
Bears01 Posted March 30, 2023 Posted March 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Communion said: Sis, lower turnout doesn't help Democrats. See: 2016. Turnout was down in 2022 and democrats gained in state legislatures, governor mansions, AG and SOS offices, and senate seats…. All I said was: this likely didn’t help him with swing voters. All I said
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