Hot Volcano Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Klein said: And without mass stan buying, what would be 30's numbers? Adele's stans are the GP and not 74% white Americans
FightDragonsWithMe Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 Too low numbers for such a big opening week. Frontloaded and mass bought i fear.
byzantium Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Adele's stans are the GP and not 74% white Americans This article basically says the GP are Taylor fans. Do OTHs read what they post?
WildHeart Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Adele's stans are the GP and not 74% white Americans You are late as always The racial background of her fans: White: 74% Black: 13% Asian: 9% The racial background of the US: White: 76% Black: 14% Asian: 6% 14 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Without the mass stan buying it would be around 30's numbers Spotify streams Midnights (5 months) - 3,832,432,751 (+11,313,619) 30 (1 year 4 months) - 2,575,890,723 (+2,446,571) No it wouldn't
Klein Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Adele's stans are the GP and not 74% white Americans So because white people buy an album, it shouldn't count now? Interesting. But thank you for providing a source that shows that Taylor's public is ACTUALLY the GP. According to your logic, there's therefore no reason to not count her sales. Also, regarding the "74% white" drag, I don't expect you to know how to read (and much less analyze) results, so I'll just point you to this post (from @Feanor) that very simply presented them so you might learn the importance of rightfully interpreting a result: "The racial background of Taylor fans: White: 74% Black: 13% Asian: 9% The racial background of the US: White: 76% Black: 14% Asian: 6% So her fanbase is reflective of the USA, who would've thought." Edited March 15, 2023 by Klein
simmnfierzig Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Without the mass stan buying it would be around 30's numbers You have no idea how much "mass buying" happened. And yes adding up streaming units take a lot longer than pure sales. Good thing Midnights is still #5 on the BB200 while 30 isnt charting
Hot Volcano Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: You are late as always The racial background of her fans: White: 74% Black: 13% Asian: 9% The racial background of the US: White: 76% Black: 14% Asian: 6% Spotify streams Midnights (5 months) - 3,832,432,751 (+11,313,619) 30 (1 year 4 months) - 2,575,890,723 (+2,446,571) No it wouldn't Thats not how it works Who are the number one music consumers in America? Black people are major consumers in the American economy and spend more than $1 trillion a year on goods and services including music. Minus the fraudalent mass bought copies she would probably be at ~800k pure sales, combined with 2m streaming units, total 2.8m, as I've said - 30 numbers.
Axelios Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Adele's stans are the GP and not 74% white Americans Wow the demographics of Taylor Swift US fanbase aligns with the demographics of the US...
Klein Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Minus the fraudalent mass bought copies she would probably be at ~800k pure sales, combined with 2m streaming units, total 2.8m, as I've said - 30 numbers. It is well known that without mass buying she'd be at 1.7M pure sales, meaning she'd be at 3.7M. You seem misinformed.
WildHeart Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Who are the number one music consumers in America? Black people are major consumers in the American economy and spend more than $1 trillion a year on goods and services including music. The Forbes article you posted is not about who consumes Taylor most but what her fans' demographic is so this doesn't make any sense i fear 13% of her fans are black, just like 13% of the US population is black. The article doesn't say anything about how much they listen her. 11 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Minus the fraudalent mass bought copies she would probably be at ~800k pure sales, combined with 2m streaming units, total 2.8m, as I've said - 30 numbers. Minus the fraudulent mass bought copies, 30 would probably be at ~600k pure sales, combined with 1m streaming units, total 1.6m, as i've said, not Midnights numbers.
Badgalbriel Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Adele's stans are the GP and not 74% white Americans You don't even know how to read do you?
Klein Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Who are the number one music consumers in America? Black people are major consumers in the American economy and spend more than $1 trillion a year on goods and services including music. Also the article you are getting that quote from does not make mention of music once.
Likingstars Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Kimi said: It’s so strange that the album that’s her weakest since debut is gonna be her most successful one Tbh im surprised her fanbase serves very questionable taste
Klein Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Likingstars said: Tbh im surprised her fanbase serves very questionable taste Or maybe, just maybe, the GP is responsible for this success? Who knows? I wouldn't want to assume that Taylor has GP following though. I have a hard time believing the GP would respond better to a full on pop album than to folklore and evermore.
Popboi. Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Thats not how it works Who are the number one music consumers in America? Black people are major consumers in the American economy and spend more than $1 trillion a year on goods and services including music. Minus the fraudalent mass bought copies she would probably be at ~800k pure sales, combined with 2m streaming units, total 2.8m, as I've said - 30 numbers. So you’re only considering the fan base demographic % for Taylor and pretending Adele’s is not subject to variables. Maybe it’s time to revisit math in school.
Hot Volcano Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: Minus the fraudulent mass bought copies, 30 would probably be at ~600k pure sales, combined with 1m streaming units, total 1.6m, as i've said, not Midnights numbers. Adele does not have diehard stans that are mass buying her albums to make her #1 and break records. There is nothing fraudalant about 30's 2.8m US figure.
Popboi. Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: You don't even know how to read do you? You’re asking for too much for the lower tier trolling in this site
Popboi. Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Hot Volcano said: Adele does not have diehard stans Yes, we can tell.
AvaMax Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 38 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Thats not how it works Who are the number one music consumers in America? Black people are major consumers in the American economy and spend more than $1 trillion a year on goods and services including music. Minus the fraudalent mass bought copies she would probably be at ~800k pure sales, combined with 2m streaming units, total 2.8m, as I've said - 30 numbers. The blatant racism from this user is absolutely disgusting. Maybe we should stop counting sales and streams from white people just because they are… white ridiculous, go back to the playground
rebeltwat Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 Does anyone know roughly what it's at worldwide?
Badgalbriel Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, rebeltwat said: Does anyone know roughly what it's at worldwide? 7m
WildHeart Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Adele does not have diehard stans that are mass buying her albums to make her #1 and break records. There is nothing fraudalant about 30's 2.8m US figure. Adele has higher pure sales/streaming ratio than Taylor has. Since pure sales are more fanbase driven and streams are more GP driven as we have been told countless times before... it all points to Adele's bigger fanbase support and Taylor's bigger GP support i am afraid
Klein Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Badgalbriel said: 7m without pure sales being accounted for since day 10*
Hot Volcano Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Artistofthedecade said: Adele has higher pure sales/streaming ratio than Taylor has. Since pure sales are more fanbase driven and streams are more GP driven as we have been told countless times before... it all points to Adele's bigger fanbase support and Taylor's bigger GP support i am afraid Adele is specific since she's the biggest pure copies seller of the past 15 years. Has nothing to do with a big fanbase, stop trolling.
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