Based off name recognition alone, is Beyonce and Shakira on the same level globally?

[Triton]

They both have such iconic pop star names. Instantly recognizable. 
 

But given how big Shakiras name seems internationally, her touring doesn’t back it up.
 

And opposite for Beyonce, given how she is labeled “local” yet can sell out internationally. 
 

I need Shakira to give us another proper tour and Beyonce to expand her upcoming one. 

[Karla Cabello]

ofc..... 

[toxicgenie]

22 minutes ago, Bacardo Royale said:

Only one of them can sell out stadiums every continent and it's not Shakira

This is such a US-centric metric though. Like 50,000 privileged fans going to a stadium concert =/= millions of people living in a country.

 

Shakira is the peoples' star, and it's hard to quantify that. But, the impact is there when you watch tv, radio, or go to neighborhood gatherings in LatAm or Europe.

[Jmo21]

56 minutes ago, Triton said:
 

But given how big Shakiras name seems internationally, her touring doesn’t back it up.

Have you actually looked at Shakira’s touring information? She has toured in more countries than Beyoncé has, and she “performed in stadiums” way before Beyoncé (or Destiny’s Child) was even a thing. 
 

Shakiras last tour was ages ago, although successful, idk why this metric is being used to discuss the weight their names carry worldwide. 
 

Again, I’m saying this as a Beyoncé fan who has been to all her recent solo and joint tours. I spend coins on her Beyonce, but this has nothing to do with Shakira’s name recognition. 

[PrudenceHCharmed]

59 minutes ago, toxicgenie said:

This is such a US-centric metric though. Like 50,000 privileged fans going to a stadium concert =/= millions of people living in a country.

 

Shakira is the peoples' star, and it's hard to quantify that. But, the impact is there when you watch tv, radio, or go to neighborhood gatherings in LatAm or Europe.

You mean like B has 50, 000 fans and 50,000 fans all of them wanted to attend her concert?

 

Realistically, the more fans you have, the more people will attend your concert. Y'all try to discredit B and convince yourself that she is local based on what your father, mother, sister,brother and auntie listen to. I could also said the same thing in Asia. Shakira was very irrelevant here because the only time she had hits was 2001, 2005 and 2010. And that's just a hit because her album...well flopped. 

 

Of course, she sang in Spanish, that's why she is huge in LatAM and earned World Records with her Spanish song and no one can deny that. That's like saying B earned World Records based on her achievement in the US. You see the double standard here? One get discredit for her success in her hometown while one got celebrated. I'll give credits to her because she's one of the most successful celebrity WW despite being a Latina, and her and B loves each other. 

Edited March 13, 2023 by PrudenceHCharmed

[PrudenceHCharmed]

6 minutes ago, Jmo21 said:

Have you actually looked at Shakira’s touring information? She has toured in more countries than Beyoncé has, and she “performed in stadiums” way before Beyoncé (or Destiny’s Child) was even a thing. 
 

Shakiras last tour was ages ago, although successful, idk why this metric is being used to discuss the weight their names carry worldwide. 
 

Again, I’m saying this as a Beyoncé fan who has been to all her recent solo and joint tours. I spend coins on her Beyonce, but this has nothing to do with Shakira’s name recognition. 

People so tend to forget that while it's 'easier' to make it big in the US. She has a lot more competition. 

 

In the US, she compete with the likes of Taylor Swift, U2, Madonna and many legends. Just because she's American,does not guarantee a huge tour. 

 

In the UK, they have their own huge artists like Ed, Sam etc. 

[CottageHore]

Most likely but I wouldn’t be surprised I Shakira was much more widely recognized across the world. She’s incredibly global.

[Jmo21]

2 minutes ago, PrudenceHCharmed said:

People so tend to forget that while it's 'easier' to make it big in the US. She has a lot more competition. 

Well then, more credit to Shakira as the United States is one of her touring hotspots.
 

No she hasn’t done stadiums in the US, but neither has Britney, Pink, Rihanna, etc. Stadium tours are becoming more of the norm as touring in general is becoming a BIG thing. 
 

Shakiras first stadium show was sometime in 1997, her last, outside of Latin America was in 2018 during her last tour. If name recognition is only defined by who can perform in a stadium - Shakira’s been doing it longer. 

[SuperCiC1]

Equal. I hear them referenced equally as often in music, TV shows, and movies in dozens of languages, equally as much in each language. It's as if two became one when they made Beautiful Liar.

[bijonse]

1 hour ago, toxicgenie said:

This is such a US-centric metric though. Like 50,000 privileged fans going to a stadium concert =/= millions of people living in a country.

 

Shakira is the peoples' star, and it's hard to quantify that. But, the impact is there when you watch tv, radio, or go to neighborhood gatherings in LatAm or Europe.

Hdkdjdjd the hoops you’re jumping through. Beyoncé can sell out shows in places shakira cannot because she is bigger than her in those areas

[Chris]

9 pages of what exactly?

[Pheromosa]

more questions we can't possibly know the answers to 

[PrudenceHCharmed]

22 minutes ago, Jmo21 said:

Well then, more credit to Shakira as the United States is one of her touring hotspots.
 

No she hasn’t done stadiums in the US, but neither has Britney, Pink, Rihanna, etc. Stadium tours are becoming more of the norm as touring in general is becoming a BIG thing. 
 

Shakiras first stadium show was sometime in 1997, her last, outside of Latin America was in 2018 during her last tour. If name recognition is only defined by who can perform in a stadium - Shakira’s been doing it longer. 

Well, you think Britney can tour stadium? Rihanna is retired. Pink is the same case as Shakira, huge in Europe but struggles in the US/Asia/South Africa and LatAm. 

 

B should also been give credit for making it big in the Europe, South Africa, LatAM & Asia. The good sis toured France, Germany, South Africa, Brazil, Indonesia, Philipines, Middle East, Hong Kong, China, Singapore, Japan, South Korea and even performed in India & Dubai yet her name isn't recognizable simply because somebody's father hasn't heard her music. Poor girl has been called local for 20 years despite topping iTunes in 100 countries.

 

Fun fact, she tried to tour Malaysia twice but had to be cancelled because it's an Islamic country.

Edited March 13, 2023 by PrudenceHCharmed

[Jmo21]

6 minutes ago, PrudenceHCharmed said:

Well, you think Britney can tour stadium? Rihanna is retired. Pink is the same case as Shakira, huge in Europe but struggles in the US/Asia/South Africa and LatAm. 

I……. Okay. Lol. 
 

You can lead a horse to water, but ya can’t make ‘em drink. 
 

Just for that I’m gonna go stream Shakira Live in Mumbai (which is in India….. which is in Asia.) Or should I do Shakira live in Cairo (which is in Egypt… which is in Africa)? 

[bijonse]

4 minutes ago, Jmo21 said:

I……. Okay. Lol. 
 

You can lead a horse to water, but ya can’t make ‘em drink. 
 

Just for that I’m gonna go stream Shakira Live in Mumbai (which is in India….. which is in Asia.) Or should I do Shakira live in Cairo (which is in Egypt… which is in Africa)? 

Nobody is saying shakira is local or something. But Beyoncé has also done shows in both those places is the point we’re trying to make, she’s just as if not more famous worldwide 

Edited March 13, 2023 by bijonse

[JonginBey]

Beyoncé is bigger.

[Virtual_Insanity]

3 hours ago, bijonse said:

Your username might be accurate if you think katy is more famous than BEYONCÉ 

 

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=%2Fm%2F01mpq7s,%2Fm%2F03y82t6,%2Fm%2F01wj18h&hl=en

 

katy is not as famous as the two legends you threw her in with and overall it seems beyoncé has the most interest on google though shakira had higher peaks. On instagram Beyoncé is more followed and on Facebook shakira is more followed. Beyoncé is more successful musically and obliterates in touring, has more success in avenues outside of music too. I think bey is more famous 

 

 

No ones talking about internet trends. I am talking about people on the street. 

[PrudenceHCharmed]

"People on street" 

"My father listen to..." 

 

Y'all are funny 

What's next? Shakira is bigger because my cat listen to her? She's bigger because a crocodile at Amazon dancing to Shakira in the water? Beyoncé is bigger because the bees are buzzing to Drunk In Love. Fun fact, there's a bee named after her and a parrot sang If I Were A Boy. 

[bijonse]

26 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

No ones talking about internet trends. I am talking about people on the street. 

People on the street use the internet 

[PrudenceHCharmed]

38 minutes ago, Jmo21 said:

I……. Okay. Lol. 
 

You can lead a horse to water, but ya can’t make ‘em drink. 
 

Just for that I’m gonna go stream Shakira Live in Mumbai (which is in India….. which is in Asia.) Or should I do Shakira live in Cairo (which is in Egypt… which is in Africa)? 

While you at it, listen to her album that sold 50K Japan. Then listen to B'day that sold 400K in Japan or DC's GH album that sold 500K. 

[PrudenceHCharmed]

2 minutes ago, bijonse said:

People on the street use the internet 

Pink's stans talking about relevancy is funny because poor girl got 9M followers on insta and clinging to Xtina and Britney to stay relevant. 

[BGKC]

The Latin speaking world has a very limited spectrum of artist they stream en mass tbh. Shakira is a standard and she’ll do a remix with who ever is apart of that limited spectrum to stay as relevant as she can. She’s an absolute legend with more longevity than most, including Beyoncé, but idk. She doesn’t tour the same and is still behind overall on “Spotify’ record sales, etc etc 

 

the one area where Shakira is flat out bigger than Bey is YouTube. 

[Punky Rooster]

I'd say Shakira has more name recognition globally, so no.

[johnny_9ss]

Shakira has far more global name recognition. 

[bijonse]

54 minutes ago, johnny_9ss said:

Shakira has far more global name recognition. 

You’re saying this based on……?