charts discussion Spotify: Endless Summer Vacation 29,9m debut | First week: 151m

[More Than A Melody]

11 hours ago, Scott Borchetta said:

we don't care, if comparing miley cyrus to harry is how you feel better about his successful male peers, bad bunny and the weeknd, stomping on him, then so be it

 

OT: stable 

Harry had the second most streamed album of 2022 and the most streamed song. Bad Bunny is singing his songs on Carpool Karaoke and going to his shows and dancing. The Weeknd is seeing the project he created, produced, and stars in get torn to pieces and called a disaster in the making (and at this rate might never see the light of day), and his last album (and multiple singles), flopped to oblivion. Harry's tour washes both of theirs combined. I don't need to make myself feel better about anything when it comes to him. He literally just won AOTY, swept the Brits, and is performing in sold out stadiums worldwide.

 

I guess you have to deflect from my very clear point to make yourself feel better. Why did the album not affect Flowers at all? I gave you two examples of artists with viral songs that released albums in the middle of the single run and how it dramatically affected the singles' numbers, and Miley's is literally doing less streams:

 

Last Wednesday:

3  –

Flowers Miley Cyrus

1

3

55

7,617,437

More

 

The Wednesday after releasing the album

1  –

Flowers Miley Cyrus

1

1

62

7,446,695

More

 

Now Adele

The Wednesday before releasing the album

2  –

Easy On Me Adele

1

2

35

5,672,873

 

The Wednesday after releasing the album

1  –

Easy On Me Adele

1

1

42

7,559,544

 

Even going as far back as Dua Lipa/DSN

The Wednesday before releasing the album

4  –

Don't Start Now Dua Lipa

4

4

146

4,181,964

 

 

The Wednesday after releasing the album

2  –

Don't Start Now Dua Lipa

2

2

153

5,182,239

 

And Dua Lipa wasn't a household name, barely had a fanbase, it was in the middle of a pandemic with Spotify numbers depleting, and the song was three months older than Miley's.

 

But you can keep acting like this is about my fave instead of a genuine and very valid question. Deflecting, is your best bet, I guess, since you were swiftly clocked.

[Raphy23]

12 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said:

On Spotify? It'll probably debut around 130-140 million.

No like the physical sales + streams total. any predication?

[More Than A Melody]

Just now, Raphy23 said:

No like the physical sales + streams total. any predication?

112K SPS according to HDD's last prediction.

[Thickorita]

4 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

Harry had the second most streamed album of 2022 and the most streamed song. Bad Bunny is singing his songs on Carpool Karaoke and going to his shows and dancing. The Weeknd is seeing the project he created, produced, and stars in get torn to pieces and called a disaster in the making (and at this rate might never see the light of day), and his last album (and multiple singles), flopped to oblivion. Harry's tour washes both of theirs combined. I don't need to make myself feel better about anything when it comes to him. He literally just won AOTY, swept the Brits, and is performing in sold out stadiums worldwide.

 

I guess you have to deflect from my very clear point to make yourself feel better. Why did the album not affect Flowers at all? I gave you two examples of artists with viral songs that released albums in the middle of the single run and how it dramatically affected the singles' numbers, and Miley's is literally doing less streams:

 

Last Wednesday:

3  –

Flowers Miley Cyrus

1

3

55

7,617,437

More

 

The Wednesday after releasing the album

1  –

Flowers Miley Cyrus

1

1

62

7,446,695

More

 

Now Adele

The Wednesday before releasing the album

2  –

Easy On Me Adele

1

2

35

5,672,873

 

The Wednesday after releasing the album

1  –

Easy On Me Adele

1

1

42

7,559,544

 

Even going as far back as Dua Lipa/DSN

The Wednesday before releasing the album

4  –

Don't Start Now Dua Lipa

4

4

146

4,181,964

 

 

The Wednesday after releasing the album

2  –

Don't Start Now Dua Lipa

2

2

153

5,182,239

 

And Dua Lipa wasn't a household name, barely had a fanbase, it was in the middle of a pandemic with Spotify numbers depleting, and the song was three months older than Miley's.

 

But you can keep acting like this is about my fave instead of a genuine and very valid question. Deflecting, is your best bet, I guess, since you were swiftly clocked.

The album tanking so hard it's taking down Flowers with it 

[More Than A Melody]

5 minutes ago, Thickorita said:

The album tanking so hard it's taking down Flowers with it 

I did not expect to see it was doing less streams today. I'm just confused by this because it makes no logical sense. No matter how little interest there is in an album, there's no way it's making less people replay Flowers, the entire song's narrative revolves around Miley. She's KNOWN... I checked out About Damn Time and Unholy and they had the same effect as Flowers but both songs were significantly older and their albums did significantly worse. Also the songs were mostly faceless. I honestly thought the comparisons with Special and Gloria were whack but now I'm not so sure.

[Scott Borchetta]

36 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

Harry had the second most streamed album of 2022 and the most streamed song. Bad Bunny is singing his songs on Carpool Karaoke and going to his shows and dancing. The Weeknd is seeing the project he created, produced, and stars in get torn to pieces and called a disaster in the making (and at this rate might never see the light of day), and his last album (and multiple singles), flopped to oblivion. Harry's tour washes both of theirs combined. I don't need to make myself feel better about anything when it comes to him. He literally just won AOTY, swept the Brits, and is performing in sold out stadiums worldwide.

 

I guess you have to deflect from my very clear point to make yourself feel better. Why did the album not affect Flowers at all? I gave you two examples of artists with viral songs that released albums in the middle of the single run and how it dramatically affected the singles' numbers, and Miley's is literally doing less streams:

 

Last Wednesday:

3  –

Flowers Miley Cyrus

1

3

55

7,617,437

More

 

The Wednesday after releasing the album

1  –

Flowers Miley Cyrus

1

1

62

7,446,695

More

 

Now Adele

The Wednesday before releasing the album

2  –

Easy On Me Adele

1

2

35

5,672,873

 

The Wednesday after releasing the album

1  –

Easy On Me Adele

1

1

42

7,559,544

 

Even going as far back as Dua Lipa/DSN

The Wednesday before releasing the album

4  –

Don't Start Now Dua Lipa

4

4

146

4,181,964

 

 

The Wednesday after releasing the album

2  –

Don't Start Now Dua Lipa

2

2

153

5,182,239

 

And Dua Lipa wasn't a household name, barely had a fanbase, it was in the middle of a pandemic with Spotify numbers depleting, and the song was three months older than Miley's.

 

But you can keep acting like this is about my fave instead of a genuine and very valid question. Deflecting, is your best bet, I guess, since you were swiftly clocked.

we don’t care, bad bunny and the weeknd’s stats both stomp him which is why you’re constantly entering miley threads and bringing up AIW unprovoked

 

must suck to know your fave can’t compete with the men so you have to drag miley

[Raphy23]

18 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

I did not expect to see it was doing less streams today. I'm just confused by this because it makes no logical sense. No matter how little interest there is in an album, there's no way it's making less people replay Flowers, the entire song's narrative revolves around Miley. She's KNOWN... I checked out About Damn Time and Unholy and they had the same effect as Flowers but both songs were significantly older and their albums did significantly worse. Also the songs were mostly faceless. I honestly thought the comparisons with Special and Gloria were whack but now I'm not so sure.

There is a glitch. Miley's being sabotaged! 

[More Than A Melody]

4 minutes ago, Scott Borchetta said:

we don’t care, bad bunny and the weeknd’s stats both stomp him which is why you’re constantly entering miley threads and bringing up AIW unprovoked

 

must suck to know your fave can’t compete with the men so you have to drag miley

Who's "we" cause multiple people do care, as you can see by the other replies.

 

No one's stats stomp on my fave. I'll clock you about them when it's relevant to the thread which is absolutely not here, just like I clocked you with Miley's stats right before, which is why you're deflecting to self soothe.

 

Perhaps answer the question, to at least try to LOOK like you're remaining on topic, why is Flowers doing LESS streams than before the album came out?

 

PS: this is the first time I compare AIW's numbers to Flowers since either of them came out, and I also brought up EOM and DSN's numbers. I actually defended Miley from people saying Flowers was a fraud, but like I said, deflect deflect deflect.

Edited March 16, 2023 by More Than A Melody

[Scott Borchetta]

3 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

Who's "we" cause multiple people do care, as you can see by the other replies.

 

No one's stats stomp on my fave. I'll clock you about them when it's relevant to the thread which is absolutely not here, just like I clocked you with Miley's stats right before, which is why you're deflecting to self soothe.

 

Perhaps answer the question, to at least try to LOOK like you're remaining on topic, why is Flowers doing LESS streams than before the album came out?

 

PS: this is the first time I compare AIW's numbers to Flowers since either of them came out, and I also brought up EOM and DSN's numbers. I actually defended Miley from people saying Flowers was a fraud, but like I said, deflect deflect deflect.

bad bunny and the weeknd stomp on your fave which is why UVST and after hours are bigger than any harry album

 

have fun comparing him to miley though!

[Nefertiti0]

Day 6: 18,432,411(-1,411,374)

 

1. Flowers	7 502 600	+ 52 181	0.70%
2. Jaded	1 425 976	- 156 854	-9.91%
3. Rose Colored Lenses	1 030 906	- 139 211	-11.90%
4. Thousand Miles	864 983	- 142 363	-14.13%
5. You	781 982	- 126 314	-13.91%
6. Handstand	612 395	- 122 953	-16.72%
7. River	2 492 208	- 119 490	-4.58%
8. Violet Chemistry	755 598	- 153 464	-16.88%
9. Muddy Feet	779 746	- 113 537	-12.71%
10. Wildcard	628 350	- 112 295	-15.16%
11. Island	667 116	- 106 488	-13.77%
12. Wonder Woman	495 175	- 90 228	-15.41%
13. Flowers (Demo)	395 376	- 80 358	-16.89%

[brazil]

1 minute ago, Nefertiti0 said:

Day 6: 18,432,411(-1,411,374)

 

1. Flowers	7 502 600	+ 52 181	0.70%
2. Jaded	1 425 976	- 156 854	-9.91%
3. Rose Colored Lenses	1 030 906	- 139 211	-11.90%
4. Thousand Miles	864 983	- 142 363	-14.13%
5. You	781 982	- 126 314	-13.91%
6. Handstand	612 395	- 122 953	-16.72%
7. River	2 492 208	- 119 490	-4.58%
8. Violet Chemistry	755 598	- 153 464	-16.88%
9. Muddy Feet	779 746	- 113 537	-12.71%
10. Wildcard	628 350	- 112 295	-15.16%
11. Island	667 116	- 106 488	-13.77%
12. Wonder Woman	495 175	- 90 228	-15.41%
13. Flowers (Demo)	395 376	- 80 358	-16.89%

Tbh the total drops ain't that bad. Haters keep hating. Trying to compare her with Harry which clearly was never a comparable situation

[More Than A Melody]

6 minutes ago, Scott Borchetta said:

bad bunny and the weeknd stomp on your fave which is why UVST and after hours are bigger than any harry album

 

have fun comparing him to miley though!

It truly is laughable atp, you're clearly struggling. My fav is selling out stadiums worldwide, is about to have one of the biggest tours of all time, had the biggest single of 2022 and the third biggest album, won AOTY, swept the Brits, was shortlisted for the Mercury Prize, and is critically acclaimed. I don't GAF if there's 1, 2, forty-seven albums that are slightly, moderately, or significantly bigger than his in this or that specific metric. I'm happy for him and his career, as he said himself, there's no "winning" music. I'm not like Swifties who need their fav to be the absolute best and biggest in every single aspect and every single metric. He's huge and successful, I'm happy for him, end of story.

 

I compared Flowers to AIW because of the similar circumstances (viral song that breaks records, album released in a similar timeframe after it comes out). I'm familiar with AIW's numbers for OBVIOUS reasons, so it was the stat that I had more within reach, I then added two more comparisons that also prove what I'm getting at. Because I truly am ASKING A VALID QUESTION that's related to the topic of this thread. A question you refuse to even try to answer. Because you can't in a satisfactory way. And since you can't explain it, you're coping by derailing the thread and talking about two unrelated artists, with completely unrelated stats, that have nothing to do with the conversation here.

 

Why is Flowers getting LESS streams than before the album came out? Can't answer? Don't quote me, cause I actually wanna talk about Miley in Miley's thread. Thanks.

[Ivan_brit]

Friday = 30,395,011

Saturday = 24,561,474

Sunday = 19,603,951

Monday = 20,498,337

Tuesday = 19,943,785

Wednesday = 18,432,411

 

Total = 133,434,969 (1 day left)

 

 

Bigget Female 1st week so far in 2023

 

#1. Karol G - “MAÑANA SERA BONITO” — 203M

#2. Miley Cyrus - "Endless Summer Vacation" — 133.4M (So Far)

#3. Kali Uchis - “Red Moon In Venus” — 43M 

#4. Tini - ”Cupido” — 38.5M

#5. Raye - “My 21st Centuries” — 34.1M

#6. P!nk - "Trustfall" — 25.3M

#7. Ava Max -  “Diamonds & Dancefloors” — 20.8M

 

Let me leave an ATRL fave album stats here:
 

 

 

 

[Montreal]

1 hour ago, Scott Borchetta said:

bad bunny and the weeknd stomp on your fave which is why UVST and after hours are bigger than any harry album

 

have fun comparing him to miley though!

no point in talking to someone stuck in their own stupid narrative

[BeingRicardo]

2 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

I did not expect to see it was doing less streams today. I'm just confused by this because it makes no logical sense. No matter how little interest there is in an album, there's no way it's making less people replay Flowers, the entire song's narrative revolves around Miley. She's KNOWN... I checked out About Damn Time and Unholy and they had the same effect as Flowers but both songs were significantly older and their albums did significantly worse. Also the songs were mostly faceless. I honestly thought the comparisons with Special and Gloria were whack but now I'm not so sure.

It has a demo doing half million so I guess it's taking streams from there

[hungrymuffin]

2 hours ago, Scott Borchetta said:

bad bunny and the weeknd stomp on your fave which is why UVST and after hours are bigger than any harry album

 

have fun comparing him to miley though!

dont argue with that user, she thinks everyone is wrong except her

 

OT: great hold

[Sscorpionn]

2 hours ago, Nefertiti0 said:

Day 6: 18,432,411(-1,411,374)

 

1. Flowers	7 502 600	+ 52 181	0.70%
2. Jaded	1 425 976	- 156 854	-9.91%
3. Rose Colored Lenses	1 030 906	- 139 211	-11.90%
4. Thousand Miles	864 983	- 142 363	-14.13%
5. You	781 982	- 126 314	-13.91%
6. Handstand	612 395	- 122 953	-16.72%
7. River	2 492 208	- 119 490	-4.58%
8. Violet Chemistry	755 598	- 153 464	-16.88%
9. Muddy Feet	779 746	- 113 537	-12.71%
10. Wildcard	628 350	- 112 295	-15.16%
11. Island	667 116	- 106 488	-13.77%
12. Wonder Woman	495 175	- 90 228	-15.41%
13. Flowers (Demo)	395 376	- 80 358	-16.89%

I keep bleeding, I keep, keep bleeding 

[More Than A Melody]

50 minutes ago, BeingRicardo said:

It has a demo doing half million so I guess it's taking streams from there

If you add in the demo version it's doing roughly the same amount as before the album came out: 7,842,071 (Flowers demo is counter streams, not filtered, so slightly less) vs 7,617,437, so that doesn't really explain much. If people are checking the album out to stream the demo version, then why doesn't that impact Flowers, which should have an increase in the original version as well?

 

TBH, I think I'll survive without an answer. I just find it weird, but whatever.

[wish]

7 hours ago, Nefertiti0 said:

Spotify Global (3 tracks)

Day 6 (March 15, 2023)
#			streams	change
1	-	Flowers	7 446 695	+ 52 323
28	-3	River	2 445 566	- 113 678
105	-29	Jaded	1 390 592	- 151 005
OUT	-	Rose Colored Lenses	-	-

 

US (8 tracks)

 

#			streams	change
4	-	Flowers	1 251 051	+ 32 260
31	-4	River	619 895	- 33 959
46	-6	Jaded	528 856	- 33 825
83	-14	Rose Colored Lenses	407 233	- 29 068
125	-28	Thousand Miles	333 492	- 37 620
146	-30	You	313 663	- 27 694
199	-74	Violet Chemistry	285 028	- 43 296
193	-50	Muddy Feet	286 044	- 25 338

 

 

I just want to make y'all aware of how Plastic Hearts was doing at this point

 

Plastic Hearts - US Spotify - Day 6 (December 2, 2020)

#41 Prisoner (feat. Dua Lipa)

#83 Angels Like You

#105 Midnight Sky

#181 Heart of Glass

 

4 tracks charting, ZERO in the top 40

 

Endless Summer Vacation - US Spotify - Day 6 (March 15, 2023)

#4 Flowers

#31 River

#46 Jaded

#83 Rose Colored Lenses

#125 Thousand Miles

#146 You

#199 Violet Chemistry

#193 Muddy Feet

 

8 tracks charting, 2 in the top 40

 

-

 

This is a notable improvement regardless of the context 

[wish]

On 3/15/2023 at 2:22 PM, More Than A Melody said:

Sorry but that has nothing to do with my point. I'm talking about the album effect on the single, this is a second version of the song. I'm just confused how the album and the song seem to be so divorced from each other.

 

The song is performing as if the album wasn't even dropped, doing the exact same numbers as before it was released when albums usually have a huge impact on already existing singles. And the album is performing as if Flowers didn't exist, doing very similar numbers Miley did with Plastic Hearts (a slight increase that matches the increase in overall Spotify users), when a huge single like Flowers generally makes people interested in the overall project.

 

I understand that she did little promo and I don't think it means that Flowers is fraudulent at all. Plenty of huge singles have gone to be in overall small projects, but it's just really surprising because most of the success of Flowers hinges on Miley herself, the "comeback" narrative and her personal story with the song/Liam Hemsworth. So I just... don't... get it. It's strange and I can't make sense of it.

It's safe to assume that the album served as a cushion for Flowers' streams, as the song was beginning to fall over the past couple of weeks. It very likely would have fallen from the #1 spot if we didn't get the album this week.

 

It's important to remember that Flowers is THE fastest streamed song on Spotify of all time and has been continuing to push for 2 months despite having a 100% familiarity rate for a while now - when you're at the top for so long there's no way to go but down. The song is burning quicker than AIW and EOM because it blew up harder than any song ever before. The album release is simply prolonging its peak for a little while longer.

[More Than A Melody]

Just now, wish said:

It's safe to assume that the album served as a cushion for Flowers' streams, as the song was beginning to fall over the past couple of weeks. It very likely would have fallen from the #1 spot if we didn't get the album this week.

 

It's important to remember that Flowers is THE fastest streamed song on Spotify of all time and has been continuing to push for 2 months despite having a 100% familiarity rate for a while now - when you're at the top for so long there's no way to go but down. The song is burning quicker than AIW and EOM because it blew up harder than any song ever before. The album release is simply prolonging its peak for a little while longer.

Now, see? This is a satisfactory answer. I don't think its peaks were that much bigger than AIW, but they did seem to last a longer (slightly bigger peaks but for several more days and a steeper decline), which I think makes sense now that you mention it. It's burning out faster.  Thank you!

 

Hopefully it won't fall off a cliff. I quite enjoy seeing Miley be successful after so many years of struggling.

[SmashingMiley]

3 hours ago, Ivan_brit said:

Friday = 30,395,011

Saturday = 24,561,474

Sunday = 19,603,951

Monday = 20,498,337

Tuesday = 19,943,785

Wednesday = 18,432,411

 

Total = 133,434,969 (1 day left)

 

 

Bigget Female 1st week so far in 2023

 

 

#1. Karol G - “MAÑANA SERA BONITO” — 203M

#2. Miley Cyrus - "Endless Summer Vacation" — 133.4M (So Far)

#3. Kali Uchis - “Red Moon In Venus” — 43M 

#4. Tini - ”Cupido” — 38.5M

#5. Raye - “My 21st Centuries” — 34.1M

#6. P!nk - "Trustfall" — 25.3M

#7. Ava Max -  “Diamonds & Dancefloors” — 20.8M

 

Let me leave an ATRL fave album stats here:
 

 

 

 

 

33 minutes ago, wish said:

I just want to make y'all aware of how Plastic Hearts was doing at this point

 

Plastic Hearts - US Spotify - Day 6 (December 2, 2020)

#41 Prisoner (feat. Dua Lipa)

#83 Angels Like You

#105 Midnight Sky

#181 Heart of Glass

 

4 tracks charting, ZERO in the top 40

 

Endless Summer Vacation - US Spotify - Day 6 (March 15, 2023)

#4 Flowers

#31 River

#46 Jaded

#83 Rose Colored Lenses

#125 Thousand Miles

#146 You

#199 Violet Chemistry

#193 Muddy Feet

 

8 tracks charting, 2 in the top 40

 

-

 

This is a notable improvement regardless of the context 

 Not doing as bad as ATRL made it out to be

[magazine]

looks like it's a hit 

[Nefertiti0]

Day 7 - March 16, 2023

Global

#			streams	change
1	-	Flowers	7 727 744	+ 281 049
32	-4	River	2 405 242	- 40 324
85	+ 20	Jaded	1 523 182	+ 132 590

 

US

#			streams	change
4	-	Flowers	1 280 542	+ 29 491
35	-4	River	595 684	- 24 211
42	+ 4	Jaded	551 065	+ 22 209
94	-11	Rose Colored Lenses	387 563	- 19 670
178	-53	Thousand Miles	293 739	- 39 753
199	-53	You	282 345	- 31 318
OUT	-	Muddy Feet	-	-
OUT	-	Violet Chemistry	-	-

US Spotify 1st week (March 10 - 16, 2023): 38,794,050

4	Flowers	9 243 575
17	River	5 200 137
33	Jaded	4 290 569
55	Rose Colored Lenses	3 344 584
74	Thousand Miles	2 972 400
90	You	2 713 887
119	Violet Chemistry	2 421 207
124	Muddy Feet	2 363 358
142	Handstand	2 203 116
184	Wildcard	2 046 463
195	Island	1 994 754

 

 

Edited March 17, 2023 by Nefertiti0

[Nefertiti0]

Does anyone else get Jaded autoplayed on Spotify?