discussion UFOs/UAPs Base Thread | April Updates

[HungryByTheBuffet]

This news channel hosted Corbell and Nick Pope on their channel but the segment was mocking the subject and reporting on it as a joke and a conspiracy theory completely dismissing the recent happenings, so the they both kinda lost their temper and the host got sassy and didn't know how to respond 

@2:45

 

The cinematic parallels...............................

 

 

[Blue Jeans]

This is a mind blowing conversation about the potential alien technology and how modern physics still has a lot to discover

I believe that we still have a lot to discover in this world

 

[Blue Jeans]

I'm new to this, and this is life-changing from theories I'm reading. The recent hearing made me very curious to learn more.

I'm 100% pro science and am atheist but how much do we still have to discover about this world? We think we are so advanced but real human progress started just a second ago when you zoom out. I thought aliens exist, because the universe is unimaginably huge, but they may be too far away and/or exist in a different time. I don't want to fall into the black hole of conspiracy theories and speculation but what do we really know? Maybe we don't understand physics correctly, maybe there are technologies we can't understand yet. Maybe we don't understand our mind/body that well. Previously I did not make a connection between "aliens" and spirituality, but maybe it is just physics we are yet to discover. 

Things are unwrapping now, and we should learn more soon. I have so many questions. Maybe the truth is dangerous and will change our society forever. I never thought about or looked much into all this, and I'm stunned! 

[Mornings]

oh wow the wealth of information in this thread. thanks to everyone who has contributed. I know what hole im going to be falling into all week. 😂 I have a lot of theories and opinions as always(I don't trust anyone fully) but im gonna read and listen and watch first.

[HungryByTheBuffet]

There's a fake alien invasion going down in Peru, it's nothing you should spread but it's going around, just more distractions.

 

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand is being annoying saying she trusts that AARO and Kirkpatrick are doing a good job and it's not their fault the aliens are hidden in SAPs  

BUT SHE FUNDED AARO who have done nothing but harass whistleblowers and allow the Pentagon to never give a straight answer instead only "According to AARO" to which AARO replies "AARO has not received verified proof"

https://www.cityandstateny.com/personality/2023/08/kirsten-gillibrand-wants-know-truth-about-aliens/389198/

Can't wait to see Kirkpatric in jail 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

David Grusch is under attack, send positive energies everyone xx!! 

 

Edited August 9, 2023 by HungryByTheBuffet

[HungryByTheBuffet]

They stay busy stomping on the Pentagon's neck  I love MY mental health awareness day  

 

 

[Sawk]

Thank you for all this gworls, I love this topic so much, lemme catch up rn 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

Haven't updated in a while but lbr it gets tiring to talk about it till another big thing happens...

 

So the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) finally released their highly anticipated public-facing website, as required by the legislation that established the office A VERY LONG TIME AGO.

https://www.aaro.mil/

Someone did some digging and they literally mention "UAP crash retrievals" and "exploitation" of technology ain't that funny

 

They are also DEMOTING sir Kirkpatrick from his role so I really get what I put out in the world, he will now be reporting to ms Hicks

https://defensescoop.com/2023/08/30/hicks-takes-direct-oversight-of-pentagons-uap-office-new-reporting-website-to-be-launched/

 

The debrief who of course originally broke the whistleblowers story published some new fun articles... Apparently, the government is going to start using A.I to track the sky and these things

https://thedebrief.org/the-dod-taps-a-i-to-monitor-washington-d-c-s-airspace-and-aaro-gets-a-new-website/

https://thedebrief.org/pilot-ufo-sightings-collected-by-nasa-reveal-serious-safety-concerns-over-objects-in-u-s-airspace/

 

 

In other news Mexico will be holding a similar congress hearing on UAPs

https://bnn.network/watch-now/mexican-chamber-of-deputies-to-hold-landmark-public-hearing-on-ufos-featuring-renowned-specialist-jaime-maussan/

It will also apparently feature government individuals from France and Ryan Graves the pilot who testified in the US hearing

 

That's what I remember as being somewhat important updates for now but obv things happen every single day nowadays with this subject and I don't have the time lol

Congress is back from vacation starting September so we'll probably get some huge updates and news at that point.

[HungryByTheBuffet]

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“We will harness the potential of AI to create a force fit for our time. ”

It's going to be an interesting timeline

pls no A.I vs Aliens

[HungryByTheBuffet]

Reading through the site it sounds like one huge big "Alien disclosure coming soon ffs r u happy"

the details and pie charts and reportings are delicious, the metallic orbs are literally all around us lol, and the attitude chart literally kills the "weather balloons" schizo folk.

it also mentions Schumer disclosure bill and the page literally says "disclosure" 3 times...

 

[Eat The Acid]

On 3/11/2023 at 8:19 AM, HungryByTheBuffet said:

Leaving this recent video from the white house which I think is very important to remember going forward (incase delulu deniers choose to come here d)

 

 

 

and another similar statement that's even better can be found here

https://streamable.com/qfotsz

This video implies that other nations have advanced technology that the US is unaware of. In no way is it implied aliens are flying millions of light years through space and hiding in the earths atmosphere without attempting human contact despite making the effort of flying millions of light years

Edited September 1, 2023 by Eat The Acid

[HungryByTheBuffet]

1 hour ago, Eat The Acid said:

This video implies that other nations have advanced technology that the US is unaware of. In no way is it implied aliens are flying millions of light years through space and hiding in the earths atmosphere without attempting human contact despite making the effort of flying millions of light years

This thread started as a UAP base once the US gov couldn't stop talking about them, nothing more, and in the second video in that quote the main takeaway was the fact the Whitehouse confirmed they are dealing with these daily, and that it is an issue for the entire world. Even at the time of the balloon shootdowns congress was leaving meetings with freaked-out faces after getting briefed over the 3 UAP that were shot down, saying VERY different things than what the white house was saying. Later on whistleblowers claimed the object shot over Alaska was indeed ominous, it's been 6 months, things changed, Congress has held hearings over claims of non-human intelligence found in UAP crash retrievals and is planning more, the technology has always been described as "known physics breaking" you can choose to believe whatever you want it's not my job to further explain, but the quote you posted is old and irrelevant, you're welcome to read this whole thread but since I'm cute like that I'll give you a tidbit of resources.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer had this to say before he proposed the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023 that is going to enter into law starting 2024:

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The American public has a right to learn about technologies of unknown origins, non-human intelligence, and unexplainable phenomena. We are not only working to declassify what the government has previously learned about these phenomena but to create a pipeline for future research to be made public.

 

These sites may help fill the gap:

https://disclosuretracker.net/

https://www.disclosurediaries.com/

https://ufoquotes.com/quotes/

 

Read the bills, read the legalization, fill the gaps, read the history if you wish to, then come to whatever conclusion you wish, but I'd try not to project VERY human emotions such as "they came all this way to stay hidden?" for all we know they've been here all along and we are only now reaching a point where we can observe them properly, for all we know they are our makers and we are nothing but a bio test planet experiment for them, a page on their wiki, for all we know they could be a non-carbon-based life operating in planes we lack senses to properly perceive or communicate with while they understand us completely (ants-humans) for all we know they are waiting for the moment they deem us progressive enough to make contact, at the very least we should come to our own conclusions on earth that they are here and be able to tell and be aware before contact is deemed appropriate IMO.

 

Finally, if it is indeed advanced tech by other nations... that have been operating for decades with tech hundreds of years advanced, at the hands of a war-mongering country, then we're actually truly all doomed and it's not a laughing matter, but the theory falls to pieces pretty quickly when you learn these things have never been aggressive unless provoked.

 

Edited September 1, 2023 by HungryByTheBuffet

[HungryByTheBuffet]

1 hour ago, Eat The Acid said:

millions of light years

Also, "Millions of light years away" from what? Alpha Centauri is 4.3 light years away. Every star in the Milky Way galaxy is less than 100,000 light-years, and surely you don't believe they would be traveling in anything similar or related to anything we consider to be a spaceship? they could legit be a mere 400 years older than us and have already mastered wormholes or other concepts we aren't aware of, technology has a crazy upward curve, as I'm sure you can see looking around our own world.

[Eat The Acid]

4 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

This thread started as a UAP base once the US gov couldn't stop talking about them, nothing more, and in the second video in that quote the main takeaway was the fact the Whitehouse confirmed they are dealing with these daily, and that it is an issue for the entire world. Even at the time of the balloon shootdowns congress was leaving meetings with freaked-out faces after getting briefed over the 3 UAP that were shot down, saying VERY different things than what the white house was saying. Later on whistleblowers claimed the object shot over Alaska was indeed ominous, it's been 6 months, things changed, Congress has held hearings over claims of non-human intelligence found in UAP crash retrievals and is planning more, the technology has always been described as "known physics breaking" you can choose to believe whatever you want it's not my job to further explain, but the quote you posted is old and irrelevant, you're welcome to read this whole thread but since I'm cute like that I'll give you a tidbit of resources.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer had this to say before he proposed the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023 that is going to enter into law starting 2024:

 

These sites may help fill the gap:

https://disclosuretracker.net/

https://www.disclosurediaries.com/

https://ufoquotes.com/quotes/

 

Read the bills, read the legalization, fill the gaps, read the history if you wish to, then come to whatever conclusion you wish, but I'd try not to project VERY human emotions such as "they came all this way to stay hidden?" for all we know they've been here all along and we are only now reaching a point where we can observe them properly, for all we know they are our makers and we are nothing but a bio test planet experiment for them, a page on their wiki, for all we know they could be a non-carbon-based life operating in planes we lack senses to properly perceive or communicate with while they understand us completely (ants-humans) for all we know they are waiting for the moment they deem us progressive enough to make contact, at the very least we should come to our own conclusions on earth that they are here and be able to tell and be aware before contact is deemed appropriate IMO.

 

Finally, if it is indeed advanced tech by other nations... that have been operating for decades with tech hundreds of years advanced, at the hands of a war-mongering country, then we're actually truly all doomed and it's not a laughing matter, but the theory falls to pieces pretty quickly when you learn these things have never been aggressive unless provoked.

 

This SCI-fi fiction story telling  Go touch grass.

Edited September 1, 2023 by Eat The Acid

[Eat The Acid]

On 7/26/2023 at 12:17 AM, Relampago. said:

This kind of feels like a distraction, like what tea could they possibly spill?

All of this is a huge distraction  

[Eat The Acid]

On 7/26/2023 at 6:42 PM, ugo said:

It's a big leap how it went from conspiracy theorists talking on some weird podcast to having a congress hearing 

The Congress hearing was triggered by allegations that federal government was withholding information from congress. Not to investigate “well I talked to some people I worked with and they said they had experience with aliens”. It’s all bish bosh. Americans are crazy. LBR. 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

10 hours ago, Eat The Acid said:

This SCI-fi fiction story telling  Go touch grass.

[Eat The Acid]

2 hours ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

Sis there is absolutely no substantial evidence - actually there’s NO evidence. Just hear-say. This is all conspiracy. This is the standard we expect from the US - instead of Congress actually working on what matters, they’re inspecting different dimensions and beings that have never been seen, shown or have any physical evidence of. This may as well be preaching from a mass at a church asking us to believe in God. It’s all faith and belief based.
 

Of course you’re entitled to believe what you want. I’m very open minded to extra Terrestrials and that they exist but there’s no evidence to suggest they’re on earth or could be soon. 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

7 hours ago, Eat The Acid said:

Sis there is absolutely no substantial evidence - actually there’s NO evidence. Just hear-say. This is all conspiracy. This is the standard we expect from the US - instead of Congress actually working on what matters, they’re inspecting different dimensions and beings that have never been seen, shown or have any physical evidence of. This may as well be preaching from a mass at a church asking us to believe in God. It’s all faith and belief based.
 

Of course you’re entitled to believe what you want. I’m very open minded to extra Terrestrials and that they exist but there’s no evidence to suggest they’re on earth or could be soon. 

Alright so yeah I agree lol, personally yeah I lean toward it being alien because the bias is there and most of us would like to experience such a substantial reality-changing discovery in our lifetime, the thing is for me at least at the end of the day every angle you look at it it's worth getting to the bottom of you know what I mean?

If the military and government are lying about these objects existing and being of exotic unknown tech and are releasing fake video proof, then it's not alright.
If it's a psyop for any reason, people are sick of it and want the truth.

If it's an enemy nation flying these all around the globe, it's the biggest global security threat in a long time.

I'm open to whatever the answer is, personally, my opinion is indeed that it's something non-human, only based on answers from the White House, the Pentagon, military and government personnel, and the CIA whistleblowers, not randos conspiracy theories, those are all fun and games but I don't base my opinion on them.

I think a no proper answer is a no-go at this point and I believe that's the general consensus now.

[brraap]

Is it me or does this Grusch guy look like an alien himself 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

It's being alleged that more whistleblowers are now going to the ICIG like Grusch did, and ignoring AARO
 

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“individuals who have worked on such [Legacy UFO] programs are now prepared to come forward to the Intelligence Community’s Inspector General by making whistleblower complaints.”

“multiple people have completely bypassed The Pentagon's UAP program AARO and have filed PPD-19s, the official whistleblower reporting mechanism, with the Intelligence Community Inspector General.”

 

As you might know, AARO launched their new site with a "Coming Soon" section asking US Government employees with UAP-Related Program/Activity information to report what they know directly to them, however after Grusch warned everybody about AARO, these new whistleblowers are using the UAP-Whistblower Law to instead report their knowledge directly to the Inspector General.

 

The U.S senate is back in session, so it's going to be a juicy month.

[HungryByTheBuffet]

A new 2 hours interview of Grusch with loads of new supposed info shared ig?

I'll watch it when I have the time...

The tea so far I saw is he says he believes humans are CREATED BEINGS... so that's that

screaming at his fact in the thumbnail

 

[HungryByTheBuffet]

Copied from Reddit lots of tidbits and info from the interview

 

• "I think we're created beings in some manner."
• “Some baggage is coming” with non-human biologics, does not want to “overly disclose”

• NHI have physical bodies, "biologics" specifically refers to the NHI's bodies. He refuses to comment when asked whether they found them alive or dead

• David Grusch talks about how many people he spoke to about the subject when he was part of it and how it was all revealed slowly and gradually and he comments that he believes the words he is saying and that, if he was fed bullshit this entire time, he says it would have to be a flawless psychological operation on him and would totally blow him away because he knew several of those people for many years

• Most of the people in the Manhattan Project were involved in founding the reverse engineering program

• Thanks to wording in the original documents, the Department of Energy apparently has the power to completely control the status of confidentiality for any radioactive substance or compounds/materials containing radioactive nuclei

• Grusch believes the NHI are not that much more advanced in technology relative to humanity, and that while humans invested in nuclear weapons and nuclear energy, the NHI instead developed in "another path"

• It is difficult to assess how much progress has been made in reverse engineering the technology because it is so foreign

 

• We are one discovery away from being able to manipulate spacetime

• It is possible to make UAPs appear by launching a dud nuclear missile from a real facility, UAPs may appear and "take it down" (unspecified as to how)

• NHI are VERY interested in radioactive nuclei (every nuclear energy, weapon or storage facility, places near radioactive spills, nuclear meltdowns, uranium deposits, plutonium storage facilities). They have no idea as to the NHI's intentions. Could be probing, reconnaisance, mere curiosity.

• Grusch used a loophole in how you submit a request to access to certain information and if denied, a certain department has to identify itself and justify why not, in order to be able to publicly share some of the information.
   

• Grusch mentions some UAP crashes seem to be deliberate, as if the NHI dropped it to see whether humanity was able to reverse engineer it.

• There's essentially a "parallel history" for the people inside the program for the 20th century when it comes to scientific development. They suggest "Operation Paperclip" had more to do with UAPs than anything else, and that many of those recruited ended up in senior positions in either CIA or NASA instead of, you know, being tried in Nuremberg.

• The "flying tic tacs" of today are the "flying propane tanks from the 50s", and apparently there are declassified files from the 50s mentioning flying propane tanks.

• Grusch isn't clear on "why" the subject has the secrecy it has, he doesn't know if the higher ups believe "people wouldn't handle it" or if they keep it secret just to have a competitive military edge over other superpowers.

• The Department of Energy is THE organization most responsible for the stigmatization of the entire UFO phenomenon. Edward Uhler Condon is the main debunker of the phenomenon, and there exists evidence of him coordinating with other agencies (including the USAF) to downplay it all and convice the public that any past investment into investigating UFOs was a waste of money.

• The host asks Grusch about Bob Lazar, but Dave says he has absolutely no information on Lazar, and while he is aware of his story, he can't tell whether Bob's story is real or not.

• Grusch openly says the term "threat to national security" is the term to which Congress most responds.

• They imply the UAPs are not hostile and that we shouldn't attack them.

• Grusch confirms (some?) NHI are bipedal humanoids, and they hypothesize that these bodies could be engineered.

• Grusch reinforces that some UAPs may be just cross sections of higher dimensional objects.

• There is a bias in collecting information regarding UAPs, because they are extremely difficult to record. The reason mostly air bases and aircraft carriers are the ones most commonly sighting UAPs is due to their wide array of surveillance instrumentation. It is incorrect to assume the UAP's fully work in the visible spectrum.

• Dave Grusch cannot speak about his persecution from within the community due to an ongoing investigation. They mention the Intercept article as an example of persecution from the outside.

• Grusch mentions the phenomenon is global with 100% certainty, cites China as having a UAP taskforce and dropping hints since the 90s.

• Host says that no one should believe him or Grusch at face value, and that people should conduct their own research into the phenomenon.

• They get Grusch to adress a message to all the people in "the program", telling them that there exist ways of communicating and that they should seek legal avenues to do so, and there should be focus on protecting the people who want to come forward.

 

 

• He says he is NOT aware of any "disclosure plan". He laughs and says if he's been unwittingly recruited into it, the people orchestrating it were masterclass level, but he's laughing like it's impossible.

• He explains that yeah, he did cover bases with his investigation, and isn't being fooled. He laughs about this, too; the vibe is that all of these common conspiratorial notions are B.S. as far as DG is concerned. Things are very face value.

• Confirms the IGIC did his own review and knows what he knows.

• People always ask "well, if this is real, why hasn't it leaked?" David says, as someone highly cleared, there are tons of mundane special access programs that have never, ever seen the light of day.

• He specifically implicated Oppenheimer as an architect of the secrecy involved in "the program" -- in fact, when asked who he'd choose to ask anyone about this who he thought could answer some questions, he named Sarbacher and Oppenheimer. The Atomic Energy Act relevance is expanded upon here.

• He says that the Manhattan Project was actually "the first blue book", and mentions that they were getting TONS of UFO reports there. Also, it is shown that this corroborates something Jacques Vallee has reported then they talk about the Trinity case.

• He talks about Wright Patterson and folks who've tried to get access, including presidents.

• He expands on how the stovepiping and compartmentalization has stopped reverse-engineering process.

• "They went a different evolutionary path"... They're actually not so advanced...? Unsure. <-- Grusch says, not clear if this is speculation, may be speculation. "We're like 1 discovery away to maybe manipulate space time, or whatever".

• They talk about the books "UFO and Nukes" by Robert Hastings. This is a book Ross Coulthart has also highly, highly recommended. David Grusch acknowledges the nuclear incident that Robert Salas was involved in, as well as the others. Didn't necessarily confirm them, but seemed very well informed here with insights about the mentality of the missile operators.

• What is the connection with nuclear? Grusch doesn't seem to know. "It might be a mosquito to a blue light. It's so hard to understand intent and all that, could be probing, could be recon, mere curiosity. Maybe they're interested in knowing our development of our civilization." David said it's impossible to gauge intent. He does say his bias is that they are studying us, comparing to Charles Darwin studying Finches. He quotes Lue Elizondo here and concurs with some of his assessments.

• They discuss a discussion with Gary Nolan, and his report of being approached regarding exposure to the craft (and Havanna Syndrome). David is aware of this, and says "Certainly... that sounds like visible-band light being shifted into the ultra-violet and you're literally getting a sunburn." David goes on, expanding on the processes that relate to these injuries (perhaps speculation) and says the artifacts involved there (data, I think) suggest they're "literally manipulating spacetime". "You create a tsunami wave, and you're riding across space-time." They talk about string theory, the idea of a unified theory. Really, there is a portion where they talk about theoretical physics quite a lot, and David, at surface level, seems to be pretty solid here. This section may be scrutinized a lot.

• The interviewer asks if there were discoveries in physics that were not disclosed to the public. Specifically, anti-gravity. Apparently the study of this was quite huge in the 1950s, they talk about string theory being presented as BS, it's very conspiratorial, deliberately stagnating the field, roping in physicist Edward Witten and his father, plus Garry Nolan, quoting also Eric Weinstein. This section is quite long and digresses from the interview with DG for a while. DG seems to be learning about it for the first time. This section should probably be scrutinized a lot, because all of this stuck is generally not discussed in this community. DG does say there is a lot of stuff he can't talk about that happened before all this: "You're like, oh ****!"

• They discuss the lack of actual theorists on the issue. DG on Jacques Vallee "Nobody has really replaced him at that level, especially on hypothesis that are a little more testable." The interviewer suggests the unlikelihood of the E.T. hypothesis. On this note, DG mentions the Ariel School Event, and references the beings in that case he says, if we believe the "100 schoolchildren", then "it would be pretty rare to have the same development (in terms of bi-pedal, form, etc.). It's either E.T. and we're seeing engineered beings similar to us, for ease of communication ...maybe?" Clearly, he doesn't know here it seems.

• They discuss time traveler theory. DG talks about time, and mentions Planck length. DG talks about our conception of time and how it's off: "The way we conceptualize time it's not constant at all."

• DG references how he talked about the holographic principle during the congressional principle and expands on this. He seems to be just kind of speculating like we all do. "Maybe we're seeing higher dimensional stuff casting a shadow into our world." "Maybe some of the UAPs... they're here... but they're not from 'out there'"

• The host mentions the idea of craft bigger on the inside than the outside; a clip plays of Jacques Vallee talking about such a case in detail. The host classifies this as a pattern. DG seems to speculate further: "Yeah.... that seems to be a transformation from lower to higher dimensional space. That seems to be what's going on there. I don't know if we have a good framework for how to do something like that. I don't even know."

• Elon Musk comes up, his quote that, and paraphrasing "if anyone knew there was aliens, it would be me." DG: "...yeah, I don't know what's going on with him." Later says on him: "We need the Howard Hughes of our generation to get access to the good stuff."

• The "simulation theory" of reality comes up, based on Musk quotes. Specifically, when asked this very specific question (in my opinion it was a bit useless but), DG does not know if aliens set up the earth to be so perfectly calibrated for life (Goldilocks principle.)

• DG: "If we had an open and honest collection system, we'd probably see some unusual hotspots".

• DG: "I don't mean to throw shade, but Neil DeGrasse Tyson... he's made up his mind... I've read his tweets and I'm like... dude, you have a PhD in physics, where's your curiosity? I can't even believe..." "I have credentials, too, and I'm happy to go toe-to-toe with you. If he wants to debate me, I'd be fine with that."

• DG: I figured I'd know if it's a thing. I kind of subscribed to the Fermi thing. Wouldn't it be obvious? But that's like an overly simplistic thought. You assume they have the same intent as us. He mentions they could be acting covert, and this isn't taken into account.

• DG speculates on the possibility of Von Neumann probes.

• They talk about how astronauts need to bring something to simulate electromagneetic field or their bodies don't work right in space. DG talks about experiments he's done with WiFi, and how something didn't grow correctly around it. He wondered if his WiFi is slowly cooking himself.

• They talk about DG's autism. He says "I didn't know that I was autistic until my early 30s." He says it served me good in terms of doing intel. He said that in terms of relationships and reading and showing his emotions it was hard.

• David's wife appears on camera and talks about him. She says he would tell him general things about his work. Laughing and wide-eyed, she jokingly says, "I was like yeah, that makes sense, there's probably aliens, that makes sense!"

• They discuss the Intercept article, the incident in DG's life, and the therapy that DG did. He said he was not a believe in some specific non-traditional methods, but recommended.

• Laughing, DG's wife says "People send me memes or TikToks and I'm like, yeah... that's mine!"

• Interviewer: What do you respond to people who'd say 'Why is it always happening in America?' DG: "It's global, 100%." He mentions Ariel School, Russian incidents, and begins talking about the Chinese program on UFO research, "a published periodical in the PRC. The CCP does not allow fringe beliefs. It's basically a way to tacitly endorse this since the 90s."

• When prompted, he speculates "maybe the three body problem is a way to acclimatize the Chinese population" towards the phenomenon. He mentions that the CCP did allow for the publication of a "pretty trippy novel".

• Is this a psyop? DG says he's "heard about" Paul Bennowitz.

• If DG could say to anything to someone on "the program" right now: "If you're on the program, I understand the risks you put yourself through. "I think the time is right to submit your final legacy."

• It's "probably influenced all the religions already".

• On the subject of religion, he's kind of come full circle. He says he thinks we're created "in some manner".

• DG: "This might actually prove some religious texts. It's certainly opened my eyes that the universe is not clockwork."

• DG mentions NDEs, he sounds interested and familiar with the scientific perspective of them.

• They talk about the book Flatland, DG seems quite familiar with it, calling it a "classic".

Edited September 11, 2023 by HungryByTheBuffet

[HungryByTheBuffet]

42 minutes ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

They talk about DG's autism. He says "I didn't know that I was autistic until my early 30s." He says it served me good in terms of doing intel. He said that in terms of relationships and reading and showing his emotions it was hard.

Inb4 He didn't know he was schizo until his 40's jk not to sound overly skeptical but I don't really care about him as a person and am ready to move on to new info when that's out, I'm mostly peaced out till then