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Billboard Hot 100: All Time Top Female Artists: Madonna #1, Rihanna #5


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#1 Madonna

#2 Mariah Carey

#3 Janet Jackson

#4 Whitney Houston

#5 Rihanna

#6 Taylor Swift

#7 Olivia Newton John

#8 Aretha Franklin

#9 Katy Perry

#10 Diana Ross

#11 Donna Summer

#12 Beyonce

#13 Brenda Lee

#14 Connie Franci

#15 Barbara Streisand

#16 Cher

#17 P!nk

#18 Lady Gaga

#19 Ariana Grande

#20 Gloria Estefan

 

 

Thoughts?

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Madonna #1 yet not even her strongest market

 

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Wonder if Beyonce can make it to the top 10. My dream is that she continues the Renaissance and succesfully releases America Has a Problem, then Heated, then then Alien Superstar, then Summer Renaissance.

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Katy :clap3:she’s so relevant

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YAS Aretha and Diana!

 

I like that they are adjusting for turnover rates (or whatever they call it) so that these lists don't become dominated by this era where entire albums can chart.

 

I am curious though where Destiny's Child would be if they had included groups too.

 

 

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Cardi being on this list with one album is insane :deadbanana2:

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taylor over katy is a surprise

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Single poison Taylor Swift being #6 is certainly a surprise. :gaycat4:

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Janet #3 :clap3: What a LEGEND!

 

Olivia being in the top 10 :clap3: The Queen of the 70s and 80s

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Rihanna could've easily been Top 3 if not #2 by now

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:clap3:

 

How closely does this align with the formula that would actually be used for the Billboard all-time charts?

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Katy :clap3:

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15 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said:

Rihanna could've easily been Top 3 if not #2 by now

:'(

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52 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

:clap3:

 

How closely does this align with the formula that would actually be used for the Billboard all-time charts?

No idea how they're formula works. I just threaded what i found

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Katy :clap3: 

 

Ariana :clap3: 

 

Cardi :clap3: 

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53 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

:clap3:

 

How closely does this align with the formula that would actually be used for the Billboard all-time charts?

From what I can tell it IS the formula. There's a community of chart-estimators who go off of the formulas from the last H100 GOAT update and have mostly extended the same multipliers since (so really its only data since mid November 2021 that's not 100% guaranteed). 

 

Here's the list of known and estimated point multipliers to keep the different chart-climates equal:



August 4, 1958 - December 27, 1969 x1.7

January 3, 1970 - December 30, 1972: x1.6

January 6, 1973 - December 25, 1976: x2.0

January 1, 1977 - December 29, 1984: x1.6

January 5, 1985 - November 23, 1991: x2.0

November 30, 1991 - March 17, 2012: x1.0

March 24, 2012 - December 28, 2013: x0.9

January 4, 2014 - November 26, 2016: x0.85

December 3, 2016 - December 29, 2018: x0.8

January 5, 2019 - November 14, 2020: x0.75

November 21, 2020 - November 4th, 2021: x0.8

November 11th, 2021 - December 25th, 2021: x0.8 (unofficial)

January 1, 2022 - Present: x0.75 (unofficial)

 

As for the point values for each individual song's place on the H100 when looking at Decade End/All Time charts (before considering multipliers), those have been secretly publicly known for a while nnnn

 

Rank Points Rank Points
1 60,000 51 2,900
2 40,000 52 2,800
3 38,000 53 2,700
4 36,000 54 2,600
5 34,000 55 2,500
6 32,400 56 2,400
7 30,800 57 2,300
8 29,200 58 2,200
9 27,600 59 2,100
10 26,000 60 2,000
11 11,600 61 1,940
12 11,200 62 1,880
13 10,800 63 1,820
14 10,400 64 1,760
15 10,000 65 1,700
16 9,600 66 1,640
17 9,200 67 1,580
18 8,800 68 1,520
19 8,400 69 1,460
20 8,000 70 1,400
21 7,700 71 1,360
22 7,400 72 1,320
23 7,100 73 1,280
24 6,800 74 1,240
25 6,500 75 1,200
26 6,200 76 1,160
27 5,900 77 1,120
28 5,600 78 1,080
29 5,300 79 1,040
30 5,000 80 1,000
31 4,900 81 980
32 4,800 82 960
33 4,700 83 940
34 4,600 84 920
35 4,500 85 900
36 4,400 86 880
37 4,300 87 860
38 4,200 88 840
39 4,100 89 820
40 4,000 90 800
41 3,900 91 780
42 3,800 92 760
43 3,700 93 740
44 3,600 94 720
45 3,500 95 700
46 3,400 96 680
47 3,300 97 660
48 3,200 98 640
49 3,100 99 620
50 3,000 100 600

 

 

Hope that helps

 

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The way Taylor has jumped from 21st to 15th on the all-artist GOAT list since 2018 and only managed to move from 7th to 6th on the female list in the same time is unfortunate :deadbanana4:

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1 minute ago, wastedpotential said:

From what I can tell it IS the formula. There's a community of chart-estimators who go off of the formulas from the last H100 GOAT update and have mostly extended the same multipliers since (so really its only data since mid November 2021 that's not 100% guaranteed). 

 

Here's the list of known and estimated point multipliers to keep the different chart-climates equal:

 

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August 4, 1958 - December 27, 1969 x1.7

January 3, 1970 - December 30, 1972: x1.6

January 6, 1973 - December 25, 1976: x2.0

January 1, 1977 - December 29, 1984: x1.6

January 5, 1985 - November 23, 1991: x2.0

November 30, 1991 - March 17, 2012: x1.0

March 24, 2012 - December 28, 2013: x0.9

January 4, 2014 - November 26, 2016: x0.85

December 3, 2016 - December 29, 2018: x0.8

January 5, 2019 - November 14, 2020: x0.75

November 21, 2020 - November 4th, 2021: x0.8

November 11th, 2021 - December 25th, 2021: x0.8 (unofficial)

January 1, 2022 - Present: x0.75 (unofficial)
 

 

 

 

As for the point values for each individual song's place on the H100 when looking at Decade End/All Time charts (before considering multipliers), those have been secretly publicly known for a while nnnn

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Rank Points Rank Points
1 60,000 51 2,900
2 40,000 52 2,800
3 38,000 53 2,700
4 36,000 54 2,600
5 34,000 55 2,500
6 32,400 56 2,400
7 30,800 57 2,300
8 29,200 58 2,200
9 27,600 59 2,100
10 26,000 60 2,000
11 11,600 61 1,940
12 11,200 62 1,880
13 10,800 63 1,820
14 10,400 64 1,760
15 10,000 65 1,700
16 9,600 66 1,640
17 9,200 67 1,580
18 8,800 68 1,520
19 8,400 69 1,460
20 8,000 70 1,400
21 7,700 71 1,360
22 7,400 72 1,320
23 7,100 73 1,280
24 6,800 74 1,240
25 6,500 75 1,200
26 6,200 76 1,160
27 5,900 77 1,120
28 5,600 78 1,080
29 5,300 79 1,040
30 5,000 80 1,000
31 4,900 81 980
32 4,800 82 960
33 4,700 83 940
34 4,600 84 920
35 4,500 85 900
36 4,400 86 880
37 4,300 87 860
38 4,200 88 840
39 4,100 89 820
40 4,000 90 800
41 3,900 91 780
42 3,800 92 760
43 3,700 93 740
44 3,600 94 720
45 3,500 95 700
46 3,400 96 680
47 3,300 97 660
48 3,200 98 640
49 3,100 99 620
50 3,000 100 600

 
 

 

Hope that helps

 

 

Thank you for this, super helpful review of how it all works! 

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Miley :clap3:

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Madonna #1 :clap3: and Taylor, Janet & Whitney :clap3:

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Madonna, Mariah, Janet and Whitney being in the Top 4 is very significant, because in many ways they are why ATRL exists today.

 

The whole idea of a "pop" girl, the image, the chameleon, the sex symbol/social justice advocate, the high budget videos, massive global tours, melisma and huge gay followings. It all starts with those 4. 

 

They were the first women who came into an industry still dominated by men and carved a lane for themselves and opened the doors for what we see today.

 

You could say it all begins with Diana Ross, and I'd still give her the title of OG pop girl, BUT Madge, Janet, Mariah and Whitney really threw the door open for all of our faves in one way or the other. Every major female artist of the last 30 years has borrowed something from that playbook.

 

Just found their placement very interesting.

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Imagine my shock when I saw Taylor here given how stans say she has no hits :redface:

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I'm confused why some swifties r tryin to run a narrative when every time she drops an album she has multiple songs chart unlike da Top 4 who didn't benefit from streaming 

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5 minutes ago, dabunique said:

I'm confused why some swifties r tryin to run a narrative when every time she drops an album she has multiple songs chart unlike da Top 4 who didn't benefit from streaming 

I am pretty sure it is very small part of her points that come from album tracks charting for few weeks at most. 

Only Anti Hero probably has more points than all of her streaming era album tracks combined. 

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2 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

I am pretty sure it is very small part of her points that come from album tracks charting for few weeks at most. 

Only Anti Hero probably has more points than all of her streaming era album tracks combined. 

it still is points added on to her total

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