Marianne Williamson announces she's challenging Biden for U.S. presidential primary

[Sweet Sexy Savage]

I’ll vote for her for the sake of having someone younger and different 

[@michael]

The grift must have been good last time so why not go again

[Icarus]

She saw Bernie's three beach houses and said it's MY turn  

[ClashAndBurn]

1 hour ago, Communion said:

I think better then to have a body there to force the question of just why such is allowed to happen. 

 

Again, I'm not arguing that she should be personally inspiring or convincing for any particular individual. I'm not advocating her candidacy. I'm simply speaking on the logistics of a primary in the context of someone who holds no personal commitments to voting for a right-wing Dem party. Any avenues to expose those right-wing contradictions at the heart of the Democratic establishment is good - that was Bernie's only goal in 2016 to begin with.

 

I also think a lot has changed since 2020 that would be a shame to not take advantage of; Biden essentially became the nominee in 2020 pre-pandemic and pre-TikTok. Youth voter disillusionment has been an issue for Dems and I'm more than fine if Marianne serves as the catalyst for which millions young people threaten not to vote for Biden against Trump in 2024 via viral TikToks because that's a discomfort I think the Dem party elite should have to feel. 

Okay, and that’s fine. I just don’t think that line of questioning is going to make it where it needs to. I mean, who’s covering the Marianne Williamson campaign? Rising with Briahna Joy Gray? Breaking Points? The Lever? That’s about all that comes to mind as far as independent outlets with any semblance of an audience. Even appearing on HasanAbi’s twitch stream wouldn’t have the reach of the lowest-rated MSNBC appearance. I just don’t see it breaking through. Joe Biden will be a virtually uncontested candidate regardless, and the general idea will be that there was no debate with Marianne because her polling numbers weren’t high enough. Which was how she got sidelined in most of the later debates as well.  

[GraceRandolph]

Why do I get the vibe that Bidenites and OMH are scared?

[RunUpDoneUp]

Oh boy, kamala has some competition for that 1% polling number.

[Horizon Flame]

45 minutes ago, Icarus said:

She saw Bernie's three beach houses and said it's MY turn  

[khalyan]

She's obviously not going to win the nomination, but her running will give a platform to a few more important issues that are more left than the mainstream Democratic party constantly talks about.

[ebaby]

thats mother

 

mother orb is coming 

[GhostBox]

1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said:

Why do I get the vibe that Bidenites and OMH are scared?

😂

Yes so scared 💀

[Karla Cabello]

the first female president 

[ClashAndBurn]

This is who y’all want the standard bearer to be?

[zasderfght]

Her comments about AIDS and clinical depression are absolutely disgusting. I get she's campy and has some great ideas (like reparations for black people and using green energy), but she has zero political experience and all she has on her resume is being a spiritual advisor/healer and an author of self-help books. 

 

Remember, you are voting for someone to lead an ENTIRE country. If it made you mad Trump became president without political experience, you should be mad that someone like Marianne Williamson is occupying the space of someone who is a lot more qualified. And if your argument is that having no political experience is better than having political experience, think about a certified teacher: do you really think someone that's never set foot in a classroom & hasn't studied and passed exams in their concentration is more qualified than someone who has spent hours observing teachers, made lesson plans, has gotten observed, etc. Look at doctors. Do you seriously want someone performing a necessary surgery on you that hasn't performed a single surgery and has no medical training? 

 

Biden is not perfect by any stretch-- no president is-- but Biden has way more political experience and can work with Republicans and Dems. Marianne does not have that power. How do you guys expect her to get anything passed? 

 

If Biden, a candidate I actually really liked (but even I can see he was never going to win) lost twice, in what universe do you think Marianne will even stand a chance? If she wants to support this country, she can, but she shouldn't take a seat from someone who is more qualified and has a decent shot at becoming president. 

Edited March 29, 2023 by zasderfght

[family.guy123]

What 

[Betty White]

We need Miss Clinton to run again

[Vroom Vroom]

42 minutes ago, zasderfght said:

Her comments about AIDS and clinical depression are absolutely disgusting. I get she's campy and has some great ideas (like reparations for black people and using green energy), but she has zero political experience and all she has on her resume is being a spiritual advisor/healer and an author of self-help books. 

 

Remember, you are voting for someone to lead an ENTIRE country. If it made you mad Trump became president without political experience, you should be mad that someone like Marianne Williamson is occupying the space of someone who is a lot more qualified. And if your argument is that having no political experience is better than having political experience, think about a certified teacher: do you really think someone that's never set foot in a classroom & hasn't studied and passed exams in their concentration is more qualified than someone who has spent hours observing teachers, made lesson plans, has gotten observed, etc. Look at doctors. Do you seriously want someone performing a necessary surgery on you that hasn't performed a single surgery and has no medical training? 

 

Biden is not perfect by any stretch-- no president is-- but Biden has way more political experience and can work with Republicans and Dems. Marianne does not have that power. How do you guys expect her to get anything passed? 

 

If Biden, a candidate I actually really liked (but even I can see he was never going to win) lost twice, in what universe do you think Marianne will even stand a chance? If she wants to support this country, she can, but she shouldn't take a seat from someone who is more qualified and has a decent shot at becoming president. 

The thing is, no elected dem is willing to run to the left of Biden this election cycle. Like a previous user said, it is important for someone to run to the left of Biden to highlight important issues and put some pressure on Biden. Marianne is far from a decent candidate, but at least she’s willing to fill the role no one is willing to fill. 
 

Bernie did a fantastic job putting pressure on Biden and has moved him to left (at least more left than Biden has been thought out his whole career in the senate). Biden’s original Build Back Better bill was practically written by Bernie.

Recently, Biden has been shifting more to the right. He is getting a little too comfortable seeing how much of a mess the republican primary is right now. Someone needs to get him back on track 

[GraceRandolph]

45 minutes ago, Betty White said:

We need Miss Clinton to run again

So she can lose for a third time?

[Communion]

5 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said:

This is who y’all want the standard bearer to be? 

 

Lower unfavorables than Kamala.

[Peroxide]

5 hours ago, zasderfght said:

Her comments about AIDS and clinical depression are absolutely disgusting. I get she's campy and has some great ideas (like reparations for black people and using green energy), but she has zero political experience and all she has on her resume is being a spiritual advisor/healer and an author of self-help books. 

 

Remember, you are voting for someone to lead an ENTIRE country. If it made you mad Trump became president without political experience, you should be mad that someone like Marianne Williamson is occupying the space of someone who is a lot more qualified. And if your argument is that having no political experience is better than having political experience, think about a certified teacher: do you really think someone that's never set foot in a classroom & hasn't studied and passed exams in their concentration is more qualified than someone who has spent hours observing teachers, made lesson plans, has gotten observed, etc. Look at doctors. Do you seriously want someone performing a necessary surgery on you that hasn't performed a single surgery and has no medical training? 

 

Biden is not perfect by any stretch-- no president is-- but Biden has way more political experience and can work with Republicans and Dems. Marianne does not have that power. How do you guys expect her to get anything passed? 

 

If Biden, a candidate I actually really liked (but even I can see he was never going to win) lost twice, in what universe do you think Marianne will even stand a chance? If she wants to support this country, she can, but she shouldn't take a seat from someone who is more qualified and has a decent shot at becoming president. 

She‘s addressed the AIDS topic countless times. She’s clarified her stance again and again…

 

She wants universal healthcare - Biden sure as hell doesn’t. So in that case people battling HIV and AIDS would be far better off under her leadership than his.

[Shelter]

I keep seeing her on my FYP, she is answering everything without avoiding the topic. 

[Communion]

8 hours ago, Vroom Vroom said:

The thing is, no elected dem is willing to run to the left of Biden this election cycle. Like a previous user said, it is important for someone to run to the left of Biden to highlight important issues and put some pressure on Biden. Marianne is far from a decent candidate, but at least she’s willing to fill the role no one is willing to fill. 
 

Bernie did a fantastic job putting pressure on Biden and has moved him to left (at least more left than Biden has been thought out his whole career in the senate). Biden’s original Build Back Better bill was practically written by Bernie.

Recently, Biden has been shifting more to the right. He is getting a little too comfortable seeing how much of a mess the republican primary is right now. Someone needs to get him back on track 

Thank you for pointing this out. This is why the finger-wagging by some people just cones off as such and convinces no one to disregard Williamson. Because we can see with our eyes that Biden is radicalizing to the right more and more. 

 

Approving the Willow oil project in Alaska. 

Supporting Republicans overriding DC's autonomy to block progressive criminal justice reform. 

Blocking the price capping of a cancer drug that is literally six figures. 

 

And peopoe aren't responding well to this shift to the right. 

 

 

 

Edited March 29, 2023 by Communion

[ClashAndBurn]

4 hours ago, Communion said:

 

Lower unfavorables than Kamala.

Oh rest assured, I want Kamala even less. The path has already been cleared for her thanks to the most pro-establishment state of South Carolina being moved to the front of the pack, and the DNC have made it clear how they will smear any left-of-center candidate as a stolen valor candidate trying to run the party into the ground and alienate centrists.

 

Pretty much every progressive who could run is even less electable than Bernie too. Ironically Kamala is so bad that if Bernie were ten years younger, he could probably defeat her. But no other leftist speaks to workers the way he did. AOC has been alienating to voters with her use of academic language, and this country is unfortunately far too islamophobic to elect Rashida.

[ClashAndBurn]

10% is kinda low for the only candidate to officially announce a run, but I guess it’s the highest she’s ever polled in anything. Good for ha I guess  

[Attitude]

I'd vote for her. 

[Communion]

52 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said:

10% is kinda low for the only candidate to officially announce a run, but I guess it’s the highest she’s ever polled in anything. Good for ha I guess  

+6 since last polling.