nooniebao Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, orange22 said: we needed this instead… ”boys wanna pull my dreads, baby I don’t have tracks” Please say sike lmao. Light Flex might be the worst of any released or unreleased song from this era. #justiceforcheatback
99sandthe2000s Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Saint said: y’all are so ******* weird. #1: that’s her godmother, who you can clearly see has essentially taken over the parenting role of her after she explicitly said her relationship with her parents has gone in a not so great direction. #2: you don’t need to be well-versed in the music business specifically to instil certain necessary traits that do help a person become more business-minded like being strong willed and having thicker skin, two things that chloe has said she’s grown to learn and have throughout this process. moral of the story: stop talking **** about people you don’t know while simultaneously believing you know everything. i swear it bothers me to no end when y’all go after celebrities loved ones who genuinely care about them for no reason at all Thanks for sharing this, I realized the godmother was a lot more visible since she embarked on this solo journey but I didn't realize that the relationship with her parents had deteriorated. I can see how she's had some hard/emotional times in the process of creating this album.
Armani? Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 Has 1 million views from all uploads the 1st 2 days in US on YouTube Apparently Billboard filters out views that arent signed now per new rules so who knows
lovely88 Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 Chloe generates so much online discourse but doesnt seem to have much tangible support for her music. It’s weird.
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 10:54 AM, Starkboy said: she's at single #6 and NOTHING sticked out at all. AT ALL. She genuinely has no artistic or musical identity aside from releasing your run-of-the-mill, generic, R&B jams that are literally hand-crafted for Urban radio, and even then they’re still not good songs (aside from “For The Night” which was actually good). It’s crazy because ChloexHalle had such personality and we’re easily identifiable in sound among the SZA’s, Summer Walker’s and Jhene Akko’s of the group.
Truth Teller Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 OK, this song didn't grow on me at all tbh. I think the worst thing about it is that it feels like a scrap (and it is). It reminds me of Tinashe's "Me So Bad". A song that kinda sounds like a hit in some parts but overall it's not strong enough for bigger names to want it so it ends up with a C-list artist that has nothing better to throw at the wall. And a Hitmaka leftover is below the level of what I was hoping Chloe's album would be. For all the flack Treat Me gets (and deserves, it sucks), it sounded cohesive with Have Mercy and also unique. Surprise also sounded kind of unique. The subsequent singles could have been released by any other r&b girl.
sxmescudi Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Truth Teller said: OK, this song didn't grow on me at all tbh. I think the worst thing about it is that it feels like a scrap (and it is). It reminds me of Tinashe's "Me So Bad". A song that kinda sounds like a hit in some parts but overall it's not strong enough for bigger names to want it so it ends up with a C-list artist that has nothing better to throw at the wall. And a Hitmaka leftover is below the level of what I was hoping Chloe's album would be. For all the flack Treat Me gets (and deserves, it sucks), it sounded cohesive with Have Mercy and also unique. Surprise also sounded kind of unique. The subsequent singles could have been released by any other r&b girl. it’s the opposite for me the song has grown on me a lot. I felt the same way with Come Through in the beginning and then i saw the light
Nefertiti0 Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 Spotify Feb 26 - 470,787 (total: 1,983,418)
Theshigo Washidu Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 14 hours ago, lovely88 said: Chloe generates so much online discourse but doesnt seem to have much tangible support for her music. It’s weird. This could be said for quite a lot of these new artists really. Talk is cheap.
Theshigo Washidu Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 I do wonder what Bey is doing for her tho? Since Chloe is her artist, does Bey actually advice her on how to move with her music and her social media? Chloe has been moving like someone without a PR team or advisors behind her unless she's either not listening to them or is given a lot of freedom/creative control.
Flare Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, 99sandthe2000s said: Well, maybe it will pick back up to 500k today? Sunday updates are low. 9 minutes ago, St. Francis said: This could be said for quite a lot of these new artists really. Talk is cheap. Yeah, you need to generate online discourse on tiktok not Twitter or IG. Tiktok will actually get your music going, the talk is cheap everywhere else. 5 minutes ago, St. Francis said: I do wonder what Bey is doing for her tho? Since Chloe is her artist, does Bey actually advice her on how to move with her music and her social media? Chloe has been moving like someone without a PR team or advisors behind her unless she's either not listening to them or is given a lot of freedom/creative control. Chloe and most new artists move like they have 0 PR team, 0 management, etc. The music industry has taken the position that they don’t need to actually manage artists’ image or social media (due to “authenticity” being important now) so they let them spiral out of control. It’s a mess.
popularmoonlight Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 39 minutes ago, St. Francis said: I do wonder what Bey is doing for her tho? Since Chloe is her artist, does Bey actually advice her on how to move with her music and her social media? Chloe has been moving like someone without a PR team or advisors behind her unless she's either not listening to them or is given a lot of freedom/creative control. I just know Beyoncé made Chloe release Surprise (when all the fans were picking For The Night as the next single), which clearly wasn't a good move. Halle recently talked about Bey kinda mentoring her. But I feel like she really only gives music wise advices, not managing stuff (that's on the Parkwood company, isn't it?).
Kh-Loud Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, St. Francis said: I do wonder what Bey is doing for her tho? Since Chloe is her artist, does Bey actually advice her on how to move with her music and her social media? Chloe has been moving like someone without a PR team or advisors behind her unless she's either not listening to them or is given a lot of freedom/creative control. Both Halle and Chloe have said many times that Beyoncé gave them full creative control over their music. You honestly can’t blame Beyoncé. Their debut album was such a solid experimental Rnb album and Ungodly Hours was fresh and creative in term of genres hopping and vocal productions. They were heading toward that alternative/progressive rnb route and it was perfect for them. Either Chloe was probably so lost without Halle or Halle was always the genius among the two of them. ————————- This song isn’t it; it’s dated, mid and has no replay. Edited February 27, 2023 by Kh-Loud
AFullMoonlight Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 52 minutes ago, popularmoonlight said: I just know Beyoncé made Chloe release Surprise (when all the fans were picking For The Night as the next single), which clearly wasn't a good move. Halle recently talked about Bey kinda mentoring her. But I feel like she really only gives music wise advices, not managing stuff (that's on the Parkwood company, isn't it?). Bey didn’t make her do anything. Chloe wanted Surprise out (go back and watch those TikToks) and used Bey liking the song as a cop out when people were mad that she didn’t go with the song that won the poll. The plan was always to release Surprise. Bey is hands off with them. They go to her to get her opinion on things but they have the freedom and control to do whatever they want. Also, somewhat off topic, but I think Halle came up with the melodies for CxH songs. It makes so much sense when you go back and look at some of the lives and old videos.
zeta Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 58 minutes ago, AFullMoonlight said: Bey didn’t make her do anything. Chloe wanted Surprise out (go back and watch those TikToks) and used Bey liking the song as a cop out when people were mad that she didn’t go with the song that won the poll. The plan was always to release Surprise. Bey is hands off with them. They go to her to get her opinion on things but they have the freedom and control to do whatever they want. Also, somewhat off topic, but I think Halle came up with the melodies for CxH songs. It makes so much sense when you go back and look at some of the lives and old videos. Exactly. The ones shaping this era are her Chloe and her label. I think she just wanted to release her debut as quickly as possible and maybe having some label support but then after Have Mercy's virality they saw the potential and made her get features on her songs, getting her with producers and stuff instead of just letting Chloe write and produce the whole thing herself. That's why they declined the first tracklist of the album.
AFullMoonlight Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, zeta said: Exactly. The ones shaping this era are her Chloe and her label. I think she just wanted to release her debut as quickly as possible and maybe having some label support but then after Have Mercy's virality they saw the potential and made her get features on her songs, getting her with producers and stuff instead of just letting Chloe write and produce the whole thing herself. That's why they declined the first tracklist of the album. Chloe has been hands on with this new version of the album though and I don’t doubt that. I think the original material needed to be scrapped. It didn’t seem cohesive from the songs she previewed and the singles she was releasing. I can’t hear HM, FTN, TM, Cheat Back, and Surprise on the same album. Especially not an album that was going to be Self-titled. In Pieces being a themed album about Heartbreak is understandable. It’s actually great. I think opinions will change once the album drops.
Flare Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) I think it’a fair to say Chloe’s label ruined her momentum. They made her sit with Have Mercy so long, they didn’t even do a remix to try and get more attention. Then, a GAP until Treat Me was weird. Then no push on Treat Me. Also, where she should have performed Have Mercy (the BET Awards) they didn’t. Instead she did Surprise and Treat me which makes no sense (that was her first big stage with the Urban market and she performed 2 low performing toss-away songs instead of one she’s known for and would get the crowd engaged). Also just going back, all the random teasing of Light Flex between Have Mercy and Treat Me was ???? Everything was a mess back to back after the decent execution/rollout of Have Mercy. Edited February 27, 2023 by Flare
AFullMoonlight Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Flare said: I think it’a fair to say Chloe’s label ruined her momentum. They made her sit with Have Mercy so long, they didn’t even do a remix to try and get more attention. Then, a GAP until Treat Me was weird. Then no push on Treat Me. Also, where she should have performed Have Mercy (the BET Awards) they didn’t. Instead she did Surprise and Treat me which makes no sense (that was her first big stage with the Urban market and she performed 2 low performing toss-away songs instead of one she’s known for and would get the crowd engaged). Also just going back, all the random teasing of Light Flex between Have Mercy and Treat Me was ???? Everything was a mess back to back after the decent execution/rollout of Have Mercy. I think the gap was because she didn’t really have material then. She probably spent those months cranking out songs and finishing what was planned to be self-titled.
lovely88 Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, AFullMoonlight said: Chloe has been hands on with this new version of the album though and I don’t doubt that. I think the original material needed to be scrapped. It didn’t seem cohesive from the songs she previewed and the singles she was releasing. I can’t hear HM, FTN, TM, Cheat Back, and Surprise on the same album. Especially not an album that was going to be Self-titled. In Pieces being a themed album about Heartbreak is understandable. It’s actually great. I think opinions will change once the album drops. I don’t know if it’s going to be more cohesive because Body Do sounds like it lives in the same universe as tracks like Have Mercy and Treat Me. She was onto something with that sound but needs more polishing.(IMO) I don’t think the more traditional r&b leaning tracks are really her and that’s probably what the label is pushing. Edited February 27, 2023 by lovely88
AFullMoonlight Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, lovely88 said: I don’t know if it’s going to be more cohesive because Body Do sounds like it lives in the same universe as tracks like Have Mercy and Treat Me. She was onto something with that sound but needs more polishing.(IMO) We’ll just have to wait and see.
popularmoonlight Posted February 27, 2023 Posted February 27, 2023 27 minutes ago, AFullMoonlight said: Chloe has been hands on with this new version of the album though and I don’t doubt that. I think the original material needed to be scrapped. It didn’t seem cohesive from the songs she previewed and the singles she was releasing. I can’t hear HM, FTN, TM, Cheat Back, and Surprise on the same album. Especially not an album that was going to be Self-titled. In Pieces being a themed album about Heartbreak is understandable. It’s actually great. I think opinions will change once the album drops. Does it really matter if a debut album is not entirely cohesive? Dua Lipa also released about 6 singles before her debut, which was basically a playlist of potential hit songs. And then she was able to create a better body of work with Future Nostalgia. I don't know why labels aren't doing that anymore. I would've def prefered an album with HM, FTN, TM and more R&B leaning songs than what we have so far we the 2 singles that we've got.
Recommended Posts