Pristine Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Spotify of peers sis Madonna 22m Whitney Houston 22m Mariah Carey 21m Shania Twain 14m Celine Dion 12m ___ Janet Jackson 5m Toni Braxton 4m they on par with brandy and Monica sis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Beautiful Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 toni got ****** by a very bad record deal janet had the superbowl happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Monday Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Janet did not “fall off.” White America torpedoed her commercial viability by blacklisting her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Alexander Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Toni and Janet are doing exceptionally well. Their music continues to live on through generations in the Black community, where they have always shined the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Toni doesnt even have nowhere as many hits as Janet. That's not even necessarily bad for her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Teller Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Toni is an r&b act first and foremost, so it makes sense to be on par with Brandy and Monica. She has 3 essential global pop hits : Un-Break My Heart, He Wasn't Man Enough and Breathe Again, the latter being a little too old for the streaming generation. 4M monthly listeners is great for her Janet has been discussed many times so I won't touch on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totami Legend Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) Toni had huge labels issues + Lyme Disease Janet fought against patriarchy, sexism and racism + ended up being sabotaged by the industry after the SB Edited February 5, 2023 by Totami Legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHoran Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 The Superbowl really did hurt Janet, obviously. Toni was never THAT big and has always been on par with Monica and Brandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 @Pristine How many does Kylie have? I would expect her to have lower numbers considering the fact that she has fewer stateside hits than either Toni or Janet, though she could have around the same since I think Disco did quite well for an older act on streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TanjiroKamado Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Toni is literally a one hit wonder Janets disco is forgagaten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Teller Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, TanjiroKamado said: Toni is literally a one hit wonder She literally is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totami Legend Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, TanjiroKamado said: Toni is literally a one hit wonder Janets disco is forgagaten she had multiple top 10 hits / top 5 albums with her first 3 eras alone. She was huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pristine Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said: @Pristine How many does Kylie have? I would expect her to have lower numbers considering the fact that she has fewer stateside hits than either Toni or Janet, though she could have around the same since I think Disco did quite well for an older act on streaming. Kylie 7m Sheryl Crow 6m and these acts with no collabs. It not like Xtina where she has 22m but maybe 4m solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Nation Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 52 minutes ago, Blue Monday said: Janet did not “fall off.” White America torpedoed her commercial viability by blacklisting her 51 minutes ago, Dr. Alexander said: Toni and Janet are doing exceptionally well. Their music continues to live on through generations in the Black community, where they have always shined the most. 38 minutes ago, Truth Teller said: Toni is an r&b act first and foremost, so it makes sense to be on par with Brandy and Monica. She has 3 essential global pop hits : Un-Break My Heart, He Wasn't Man Enough and Breathe Again, the latter being a little too old for the streaming generation. 4M monthly listeners is great for her Janet has been discussed many times so I won't touch on it. /endthread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allforyou Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I did expect higher numbers for both of them but Janet's situation has been explained over and over again. Toni's career went downhill after her third album thanks to label issues and bad decisions (signing with Blackground) but her health issues were the main factor. Janet's is self explanatory, it's hard to have a lot of listeners when she was blacklisted almost everywhere for a decade and she herself has barely been doing anything too for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, TanjiroKamado said: Toni is literally a one hit wonder A one hit wonder with 3 #1 songs in the U.S and 8 Top Ten Hits overall? Not to mention two albums with sales of 10M+ WW? Go back to whatever crevice you crawled out of. Genuinely. Edited February 5, 2023 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sscorpionn Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Janet’s career was derailed by the Super Bowl so the fact she even has these many listeners is amazing. But also she has the least playlist reach among her contemporaries so that plays a part. Whitney: 272M Mariah: 186M Madonna: 172M Celine: 92M Kylie: 92M Janet: 62M Toni also suffers has a low playlist reach at only 42M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TanjiroKamado Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: A one hit wonder with 3 #1 songs in the U.S and 8 Top Ten Hits overall? Not to mention two albums with sales of 10M+ WW? Go back to whatever crevice you crawled out of. Genuinely. These stats literally mean nothing when the public cant name a song that isnt Unbreak my heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweekend Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 both deserved better. Toni is such a prime example how a label can make inviable one to have a career even though you're a major act in that said label. also her high risk pregnancy on the imminent release of more than a woman/also her Lyme disease made her to 'give up' the mainstream success. sad because more than a woman was the perfect follow up to a diva and she was probably the one that would make it to the 00's along with Ashanti/Ciara in the R&B scene. Janet, well, we have discussed a lot about it here. the whole streaming sth is that they don't get playlisted like they should. this having 150M on YouTube and being such a minor hit in her career while her bigger songs have less views than it explains what playlist/suggestions and next to watch (on YouTube) can do wonders for catalogues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Beautiful Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, TanjiroKamado said: These stats literally mean nothing when the public cant name a song that isnt Unbreak my heart he wasnt man enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbyds Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Janet simply doesn't care about these things i'm afraid. Edited February 6, 2023 by robbyds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnanimousBB16 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Glad many people didn't fall for the obvious bait. Comparing Toni to those decade-rigning pop stars makes no sense. Janet has been explained over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monologueNacafe Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 16 hours ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: A one hit wonder with 3 #1 songs in the U.S and 8 Top Ten Hits overall? Not to mention two albums with sales of 10M+ WW? Go back to whatever crevice you crawled out of. Genuinely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monologueNacafe Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 weird thread and user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power love Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 17 hours ago, JustHoran said: Toni was never THAT big This is such a LIE. She was MASSIVE during her peak. 17 hours ago, JustHoran said: always been on par with Monica and Brandy. Yes who were all extremely successful & had a MASSIVE career. Just because they weren’t on Whitney, Janet & Mariah level doesn’t mean they weren’t MASSIVE. You sound ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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